Part of my motivation was because of some recent price drops, so it will be interesting to see how they sell.

There are currently four 7 GT3s for sale on carsales.

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-2007/SSE-AD-5058332/?Cr=0

Club sport, White with orange trim (mirrors, wheels) MY07. Car appears to be on WOVR and has minimal history. 21k km Price $165k (recently dropped from $175k)

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-2007/SSE-AD-5161543/?Cr=3

Club sport, black MY07. Full service history with 38k km. Price $195k

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-2008/SSE-AD-4670370/?Cr=1

Club sport, white MY08. Full Service history with 33k km. Price $198k (recently dropped from $208k)

https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-2008/SSE-AD-4047460/?Cr=2

Touring, white MY08. Full service history with 42k km. Price $225k

Seems GT3s are now sub $200k cars, with the black GT3 sitting at $195k for a little while, possibly suggesting they may need to move a little lower.

The white and orange car might be a good buy for someone wanting to drive and wrench. $165k when other GT3s were selling for $225k would probably make it a good buy. Presuming you could negotiate one of the other cars to $185k, $165k seems a tad high. Maybe $150k would pull a buyer?? Makes the 6/7 GT3 market around the $160k a little crowded.

Whilst it’s difficult to stay up to date on actual values it has been easier to track the relative values, model v model. To be clear, this has nothing to do with personal preference. These are the relative values based on sales. So, having assumed like for like history, mileage, originality, colour combo, options, year model, overall condition etc I’ve ordered the relative model values of all the 964 variants that were available in Australia. There might be one or two out of place and happy to amend if anyone wants to contribute info. Firstly for reference here are the list prices when new:

1  $295k  Turbo 3.6

2  $279k  Turbo 3.3

3  $245k  C2 Tiptronic Conv. WB

4  $237k  C2 Manual Conv. WB

5  $225k  C4 Jubi

6  $216k  C4 Manual Convertible

7  $205k  C2 Tiptronic Convertible

8  $202k  C4 Manual Targa

9  $196k  C2 Manual Convertible

=10  $195k  C4 Manual Coupe

=10  $195k  Speedster

12  $192k  C2 Tiptronic Targa

13  $191k  RS

14  $184k  C2 Tiptronic Coupe

15  $183k  C2 Manual Targa

16  $175k  C2 Manual Coupe

UPDATE for reference

$230k 928 GTS Manual or Auto

$220k 928 S4/GT

$157k 968 Cab Auto

$150k 968 Cab Manual

$142k 968 Coupe Auto

$135k 968 Coupe Manual

And now here is where I think we are today. Note the top 4 are well out on their own. The Jubi is a bit of an unknown here as not many around. Then there is a bit of daylight to the C2 Manual Coupe, which itself sits out on its own, before the rest of the model range follows.

1 Turbo 3.6

2 Turbo 3.3

3 RS

4 Speedster

5 C4 Jubi

6 C2 Manual Coupe

7 C2 Manual Conv. WB

8 C4 Manual Coupe

9 C2 Tiptronic Coupe

10 C2 Tiptronic Conv. WB

11 C2 Manual Targa

12 C2 Manual Convertible

13 C2 Tiptronic Targa

14 C2 Tiptronic Convertible

15 C4 Manual Targa

16 C4 Manual Convertible

I’d say the only cars demanding equivalent or more than their new car price would be the top 4. The 964 is nearly 30 years old now. I don’t have any data on where all these cars were 15 years ago but my guess is that was the time to buy an RS, Turbo, Speedster or Jubi.

My only thought is , don't underestimate the fun you'll have putting a car tight and on the road... the question of whether it's a great drive well, is a secondary proposition ... for the moment.

irrespective, what's happening out there in 924 land 

Heres my Gumtree starter:

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/sandy-bay/cars-vans-utes/classic-911s-porsche-coupe-1974/1026979430

For some reason I like thes early cars, they just have that '1970's' essence.

Low km.

Rare colour (Seal?)

$195K!!!!!!!!! 

What is the opinion out there on what is being asked?

http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-911-1995/AGC-AD-14031717/?Cr=0

I’m probably the only one watching them anyway, so here is a few on the market that “appear” to have sold and for sale. 

I have only been watching manual cars.

Sold.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2000-Porsche-911-Turbo-996-Manual-AWD-MY01/SSE-AD-5465256

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2002-Porsche-911-Turbo-996-Manual-AWD-MY02/OAG-AD-16063199

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2001-Porsche-911-Turbo-996-Manual-AWD-MY02/SSE-AD-5217088

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2003-Porsche-911-Turbo-996-Manual-AWD-MY03/OAG-AD-16356569

My personal favourite 997, sold.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2007-Porsche-911-Turbo-997-Manual-AWD-MY07/SSE-AD-5492835

For Sale as of Nov 2018

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2001-Porsche-911-Turbo-996-Manual-AWD-MY01/SSE-AD-5088056

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2002-Porsche-911-Turbo-996-Manual-AWD-MY03/SSE-AD-4925350

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2005-Porsche-911-Turbo-996-Manual-AWD-MY05/SSE-AD-5504790

So sweet,  new car anyone. 

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2003-Porsche-911-Turbo-996-Manual-AWD-MY03/SSE-AD-5723421

One thing you wont find in here... 57,247 posts about speculation of future values and investment potential. 

What you will find is, bargain Boxsters that will give you all the thrills in the hills you need, for the about the price of doing the brakes and a service on a GT3.

Magnus is catching on...

And Jerry approves...

Let's kick it off with this:  https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/banksia-beach/cars-vans-utes/porsche-boxster-2004/1177585421

$14K  2004. Manual. 110,000klms.

Negotiate well and he might throw in the tinny!

Trying to get an idea on what kind of money to pay for a 944 non turbo, I have seen some for sale, the ones around 10 - 12k seem to sell, but getting above 14k they just seem to sit there.

I have found a one owner, paint is good, inertia is good, it has service history, new clutch, traveled around 227000k, its an Oz delivered car. It has Sunroof & a/c, think the ac may need attentions. the guy paid 16k & then put in a clutch with intentions to keep the car. His situation has changed & is looking to sell the car for $18500.

Looking for a little feedback

i.e. 

http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?R=OAG-AD-13752859&Cr=6 

$299k drive away in NSW

http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=SSE-AD-4705738&Cr=10 

$275k in VIC, late build/delivery car with the engine issue fixed from new

SO, how far prices will tumble, will no doubt be relative to how well the 991.2 is received, which is going to be good I am guessing. 

I am sure at some point there may even be pricing overlap between 997 GT3 and 991.1 GT3 

So who is tempted???  

Hope you're all well. I've been lurking on various Porsche forums around the world obsessing about my next purchase, i.e. my first Porsche.

Long story short, my hair is greying and I'm approaching my mid-life crisis and so I've made a mid-engined weekend car my goal within 12 months. Would be nice to keep the budget under/around $130k and preferably get a Porsche Approved 981 Cayman S in manual (must have), Porsche Sport Exhaust (must have), Guards red with black 20" Carrera S rims and PASM (nice to have). Is this an extremely rare combo and only usually seen in the GTS (or PDK)? If the colour and rims combo came up without the PSE and PASM, I'd consider retrofitting the PSE via Porsche Tequipment. And I'd consider black but I've always owned black cars and would like a change.

I've spreadsheeted almost every 981 Cayman, S and GTS on Carsales for the last 4 months, along with 981 Boxster S and a few base models. So far, there have been absolutely no Cayman S manuals (most are PDK around the $130k range), maybe a few base manual Caymans (maybe 3 or 4 Australia wide, with only 1 black manual with PSE and PASM at PCSS) and a few more Boxster S manuals.

Could anyone please let me know roughly how many units were sold of the 981 Cayman S manual vs base manual vs PDK vs GTS between 2012-2016? I was not able to find any reliable stats. Did people compare the price of the S to the GTS and opt for the GTS instead? Would love a GTS but it would mean having to save up longer (most I've seen are over $170k) and it would be disapproved by the wife, whereas the Cayman S has been sort of "approved" but that's another story!

I've driven a 981 Boxster PDK with no options (to see if the 2.7L would be 'adequate' - I suppose it was but got bored of the PDK), a 981 Boxster S manual with PSE (loved the gearbox and torque of the 3.4L and made me want the Cayman S) and finally a 718 Boxster PDK (brilliant car but the sound just reminded me of my previous WRX STi - both good and bad). I much prefer the look of the Cayman as I'm not really feeling the Boxster's side view with the rag top and wouldn't drive with the top down much, although it was loads of fun and a really pleasant experience. I guess at the moment my preference would be 981 Cayman S > 981 Cayman > 981 Boxster S / 718 Cayman, i.e. if I got sick of waiting for a 981 Cayman S or they just don't really exist in manual, I may just go for the base 981 Cayman or even a 981 Boxster S / 718 Cayman instead. 

Would welcome your thoughts and hope to be joining you guys in the drive days in the near future. Thanks in advance! 

P.S. Am I missing something here? This 981 Cayman GTS is "priced to sell" at $250k... https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-Cayman-2016/SSE-AD-4292260/?Cr=5

15 Jan 2018 Update

Courtesy of @MrMud, one of only 16 manual Cayman S owners in Australia, we now have the official statistics from Porsche Cars Australia! Here they are below. Thank you once again MrMud!!!

981 Cayman S Manuals

2014       11 manual         128 PDK       TOTAL 139

2015        3 manual           38 PDK         TOTAL 41

2016        2 manual           15 PDK         TOTAL 17

TOTAL    16 manual         181 PDK        TOTAL 197

Footnote: Before Christmas I was provided with stats for the 2013 S build as 5 manuals and 15 PDK. These 20 vehicles will be include in the numbers above (2014 total), but it helps readers cut the manuals from the above data. 

Source: 

I've been on the market for a 981 CGTS or highly optioned CS for quite some time now and have been observing for the last 6 months the lack of supply on the market - are people holding onto these or is it not the right time to list these things?

Anyway, just purchased an unlisted highly optioned,low k, CGTS from PCSS and couldn't be happier ... i just didn't have anything else to compare it to

To suit black wheel as shown in photo. With or without tyre.  I have centre badge.

After signing the contract and going home my wife noticed the entry and drive option that we selected was missing. 

So I emailed straight away and they said "Will adjust and send a revised copy". 

However, the revised copy never showed up but I was advised verbally that it was done. Boy was that a mistake! 

Unfortunately today I go in requesting a printed copy of my build and of course the "entry and drive" is missing. They said it was already locked when they requested it so I assume someone forgot to put it in, as I can't imagine it was locked back in October.  

This is our first Porsche and a very expensive purchase and very disappointing that they could not get it right given the amount of money these cars cost and the whole idea of ordering a custom build.

Arguably, the entry and drive isn't that important (which was the dealers comment) but it is more the principal of the thing and after all our $70,000 BMW even has entry and drive!

Just wondering if anyone can suggest where I stand now?

They tell me the next delivery dates would be April if I wanted to re-order though when I left they had not offered any specific solution. I just told them they need to sort something out. 

Any suggestions would be much appreciated?

Thought the service schedule was annual or 15,000kms, whichever came first?  I'd also expect the 1st service to be the most important.  Paranoid or right to be concerned?

I'm sure there will be an interesting mix of rare, unusual cars, cars with prices that seem ridiculously good...and prices that are just plain ridiculous!

Let's start with the Sultan Of Brunei's 964 3.6 Turbo X88.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/porsche/911-964/ex-sultan-of-brunei-964-3-6-turbo-x88-supplied-in-superb-order/2327006?isexperiment=true

After the initial excitement of owning my first Porsche the feeling faded and my love for the car was gone completely after 6 months. The car wasn’t nice to drive sure it handled well but the ride was poor and I just didn’t enjoy driving it at all.   I know performance cars ride hard but the car was very underwhelming.  I still own an Evo 6.5 tommi , rx7 spirit r , 2 door V5 sti and mk1 mx5. Out of all the cars I had the Porsche was the least pleasurable.

I’ll buy another Porsche one day probably a 964 or 997 gt3 rs. These should feel more special. 

The R8 rocks its a 2008 manual , sounds great and goes hard  much nicer than the Carrera.  Anyways that’s my ownership review of the 997.1 

https://www.pickles.com.au/damaged-salvage/item/-/details/CP-01-14--Porsche--911--991-MY14-GT3-PDK--Coupe--2-Doors/252535413

Vehicle Repairs Evident, Incident Type: Impact. Please Note: We recommend an onsite inspection during viewing hours. Statutory Writeoff (Can not be registered in Australia)

Maybe a previous repair was done poorly who knows, good for a track car I've done it before with a 997 GT3 from Pickles 

The missus is putting pressure on me to sell some of my toys and I’m tossing up if I should move my 911 or something else. 

It’s a matching numbers 1977 911S imported from Japan a while back, healthy motor and soon-to-be refreshed gearbox. Around 150k mileage with limited documentation but I’d say it’s true considering the condition. Driver quality repaint in original Grand Prix White with gorgeous original lobster interior. It’s a cracker of a car if I’m being honest.

My question is what would something like this be worth in today’s market? It’s a combination of the much-maligned 2.7 and a left-hooker, but it’s also a great example of one. There hasn’t been enough similar cars on CS recently for me to get a good read on current values, I’m hoping the PFA brains trust could help weigh in!

Here’s an older photo of it, it now has a correct deck lid and some other updates.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-Bottle-Opener-/322471941065

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-Boxster-1999/SSE-AD-158401/?utm_campaign=interest-alert&utm_source=notification-center&utm_medium=email

Any views on this?