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    924 CGT Copy

    Lots of optimistic comments there. For starters it is not a 944 body kit, it must be a CGT kit. Genuine CGT's sell for a lot more than $90K now, but that's irrelevant as this is nothing more than a no-Turbo 924 auto with some plastic boy racer parts stuck on it. Might have been worth $7-10K before it was modified, but now not even worth that
  2. Yes I've also imported a couple before and it was much easier before the asbestos rules were tightened. But once I had the asbestos report sorted for the CGT the process was the same as before. The challenge is to find people or companies like David Sollis in the country you're exporting from, plus have a "plan B" if some asbestos is found that would be difficult to remove (e.g. sprayed on sound deadening). I don't know a lot about the insurance to be honest, but yes I would assume there must be some method. I know from personal experience in both the US and UK the standard car insurance companies won't deal with you if you're not a resident. Let me know if you do find something as I have vague plans to do the same one day.
  3. Yes sure. I drove the CGT from where I purchased it near London to David Sollis from Survey Services in Gloucestershire to have it inspected. David works in the asbestos industry in the UK and is also a classic car enthusiast, so ideally placed to do this sort of work. He inspects the car and removes tiny samples from brake pads, clutches, gaskets, insulation and all sorts of other items that typically are found to contain asbestos in cars. I think there was 14 samples in total that he then carefully placed into sealed bags and send off to an accredited lab for testing. Once he gets the results he prepares a detailed report with photos which you can submit with your import application. In my case no asbestos was found so it was pretty straight forward, but if you're unlucky then David can help you work through what parts need to be removed and/or replaced before you export the car from the UK. Very important this is done before it is imported into Australia otherwise you could be up for $1000's of customs storage fees when it arrives in Australia, and risk having the car destroyed. Some people try and bluff there way through this, but I was not going to take that risk so made sure I satisfied myself that the car was asbestos free. David's website is www.survey-services.co.uk and he was really good to deal with. His costs were reasonable too I thought for the service provided. I had no issues with my car when it arrived in Melbourne, other than the usual obligatory quarantine cleaning fee (even though I had cleaned the car thoroughly myself before it left the UK....grrrrr!). Hope that helps. I'm sure David would be happy to discuss the above if you contact him. Also if you plan to drive your own car in the UK then be careful with insurance as it is very difficult to get unless you're a UK resident or know someone who is and is prepared to cover you temporarily.
  4. Actually speaking to a few of the guys there they were of the opinion that importing from Australia to the UK was a big hassle and not worth it. Probably true for later model cars, but I certainly know of earlier 356's and 911's that have travelled back to the UK, they like the fact that our cars typically have less rust, a bit like CA cars.
  5. Yes I had some direct experience of this! Before I exported my CGT last year I took it to Simply Porsche which is an annual gathering of Porsches at the UK National Motor Museum at Beaulieu (see photos below). This is a huge event with over 1000 Porsches attending, the museum is excellent too. A few Porsche enthusiasts I spoke with were not at all happy I was exporting the car, with some saying it should be stopped as too many cars are leaving their shores. I drove it to the docks the next day!
  6. I think we spoke when I was importing mine last, your advice was very helpful regarding the import asbestos check process. Mine is #423, UK delivered and now in Melbourne.
  7. Ha ha, yes we're a bit greedy! Yes they have built 5 in total, although the first 4 are not really considered replicas as they were commissioned in period by owners who intended to race them, although only #1 (Peter Fitzgerald's Falken race car) and #4 (Graham Lloyd's Targa rally car) were extensively used in competition to my knowledge. The latest car #5 was built more recently and is an accurate replica of the original #1 factory car, with the exception that it's RHD. it was commissioned by the owner of Peter's Falken car. Of course all of this is subject to your own interpretation, but I don't really consider my car (#4) a replica of the factory cars as it wasn't built for that purpose, and has it's own history and specification.
  8. No they only made 4 of those and in LHD only. These are two of the RHD cars built by Fitzgerald Racing Services. See www.turbors.com
  9. Fitzgerald #4 and #5 968 Turbo RS's together this morning. All 5 cars are now in Melbourne so we'll have to try and organise a gathering.
  10. Depends on what floats your boat. If you want outright straight line performance then a later 944 Turbo will be quicker, but the CS definitely feels lighter and has loads more low down torque. But if you're talking about values then the 968 CS will be more collectable because of the rarity, although you could argue a 944 Turbo S Silver Rose would be up there. Or if you want to go all out you can pay a *lot* more for a 968 Turbo or Turbo RS, 944 Turbo Cup, 924 Carrera GT or GTS. I've sunk my $ into several of the above over the past few years because I do think these rarer transaxle models from the 80's and 90's are underrated and overshadowed by 911 mania. But fundamentally it was also because the transaxle models are great cars to drive from that era of Porsche production (but I did also add a 930 just in case I am wrong!) In terms of looks I find myself always admiring the front of the 924 Carrera GT and the rear of the 968's. The 944 Turbo.... not so much. I terms of driving I enjoy driving the Carrera GT the most as it just feels so light, nimble and the engine revs much more freely (reminds me of an mid 90's WRX). In comparison the 968 Turbo RS is scary fast, the 944 Turbo feels heavy, and the 968 CS more like the Carrera GT but less smiles....
  11. I was offered close to that for mine from a person in NZ a couple of months back who was following my restoration. I'm not selling by the way, it was just a discussion. They really are an awesome car, best combination of handling and power from any of the transaxle models, and many 911's until recently. Only criticism is the ride which is very hard on the road.
  12. If anyone is interested the other black 968 Turbo RS has appeared on carsales today. Asking price is $130K. This is #2 of the 4 original cars Fitzgeralds built in the 1990's, but not to be confused with #4 discussed previously in this thread (my car). See https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-968-1993/SSE-AD-5641887/?Cr=2 This was considered the best of the 4 cars because of it's originality and relatively low miles. Current owner has swapped out the CS seats but has the originals. Be quick if you're interested as mine attracted considerable interest from overseas when it was last up for sale.
  13. Thanks, looks better in the photo than it really is, but it's an original car that will clean up well. No I wouldn't mess with a 924 Turbo now, it will be worth more in the long run if left original.
  14. Just bought myself a Carrera GT, it's sailing here on the ship now. Magnus's video was a big inspiration!
  15. I heard a rumour today suggesting my 968 Turbo RS may have been "reborn" from another 968, so I want to clarify this is not correct. As the previous photos I have posted here show the car was stripped down to a bare shell and all previous accident damaged repaired or replaced with new parts wherever possible, but the majority of the car is still original. But I can understand why there may be some confusion around this because I do currently own 2 other 968’s, which I did originally buy with the intent of using parts to repair the RS, but fate intervened. Grab a beer and read on as this story is sillier than fiction! Roll back to May 2015 when the 968 RS and myself were involved in the accident that eventually led to its restoration. After the accident I considered parting the car out as there was considerable interest from buyers in Australia and overseas for many of its unique RS parts. But that made me realise it was probably more valuable if restored, and by this point 968 prices had also started to rise, especially for CS models on which this car is based. So knowing I was going to need quite a few parts to restore it I decided to buy another damaged or worn out 968 as a donor. I started watching Carsales and quickly found one advertised in country Victoria that looked unloved and was a low price. I spoke to the owner who explained he'd had it for 10+ years and driven into the ground. It was now sitting in his barn (no joke) alongside an equally trashed 944. He didn't know much about its history but wanted to make sure I understood it didn't have a sunroof as that was obviously something that had put other buyers off. No sunroof I thought.... hmmm so that means it was either a special order 968 with sunroof delete option, or...... a CS in disguise! It wasn’t advertised or badged as a CS so curiosity got the better of me and I checked the VIN and bingo, it was an Aus delivered 1994 968 CS. Needless to say I went to inspect the car the next day (a 3 hour drive to Timboon) and purchased it on the spot. But it really is in sad condition, having been resprayed badly at some point in time, plus engine did not sound good and the interior is pretty trashed. It also had a rats nest in the engine bay, yuck! I managed to get it going and drove it back to Melbourne, it is now in storage awaiting a future restoration. Below is a photo of the RS and CS together today to dispel any reborn rumors. On the right is the restored RS Turbo (#815299), car on the left is the CS (#815252). But wait, there’s more! After the CS “disaster” I decided to look for another 968 and found a regular 1992 model in Sydney for a good price. It was a pretty drab grey car that had been imported from the UK and didn't seem all that special, so I didn’t feel guilty about parting it out to fix the RS and CS. So I flew to Sydney to inspect and was pleasantly surprised by how nice it looked in the flesh and how well it drove. It also came with all the tools, books, records and receipts dating back to when it was sold new. The wife and I drove it back and by the time we reached Melbourne I had already decided the car was too good to destroy so turned it into my daily driver instead. So end of story you think….. no not quite! In June this year while on a business trip to the UK and I went to the Porsche Museum in Stuttgart. I arrived early as the museum opened and one of the cars I noticed immediately was a 968 CS cabriolet prototype that had just been added to the display that day. There were a couple of museum people there wiping it down who I spoke with and they were very interested in my 968 RS. They had heard about the 4 RS’s built in Australia but knew less than I did about the history, so we exchange email addresses and I followed up with what I knew which they were able to confirm. Always nice when the factory checks your facts! They also checked the history of the other 2 968’s and to my surprise the 1992 car turned out to be a 1991 show car, and was resold “new” in 1992. It was built in July 1991, which is well before production of RHD 968’s commenced and was sent to Japan, before coming back to the factory for (presumably) a clean up, before being sold to its first owner in the UK in 1992 along with a 10 year warranty. Upon closer inspection it is very original and does have traces of what appear to be “trial and error” fitting of some parts and cryptic hand-written scribbles on various internals of the chassis and trim. All very interesting but not sure it will really mean much in terms of value the long run. The second photo below shows the 3 cars together, the 1991 968 is on the right (#800084). Hope you enjoyed my tale of 968 ownership! Oh and here is a photo of the 968 CS Cab at the Porsche Museum.
  16. Thanks, been a lot of work. Yes the shark fin was my only real modification, got sick of catching the stick antenna on the car cover. Yes funny you should mention those rims. Those are replicas and very similar to the original Speedlines used on the factory 968 RS's. In the accident I had in 2015 one of the black wheels that the car came with was damaged. I was looking around for a set of replicas and then realised I had some on a 930 I own. Total fluke they were the right size and offset! I still also have 3 of the original wheels the car was delivered with in 1995 which are a Technomagesio wheel, but I've yet to find the missing one for the front.
  17. Drives better than it did before. Suspension is very hard so it's uncomfortable to drive on the road for long periods, but it's meant for the track primarily, the 18" wheels also don't help. But replacing a lot of the rubbers and other perishable parts has made it feel like new. I also improved the sound deadening as it was pretty loud in the cabin. Still trying to sort a minor oil leak around the turbo which I am cursing now that I didn't find when the engine was out any everything was more accessible. Paint still needs another final cut and polish, but it's good enough for now.
  18. Well the day has FINALLY come, the restoration of #4 is finished (almost!). After 2.5 years and a lot of blood, sweat and (financial) tears, 968 Turbo RS #4 is now back on the road. It will be on display at Motorclassica in Melbourne on Sunday 15th October if anyone wants to come and say hello.
  19. Well I am guessing the new owner wasn't one of those who was annoyed by my original post about this car. I apparently upset the apple cart by letting others know about this, someone apparently thought they had kept the deal quiet and were trying to pick up a bargain. Not a nice thing to do to a recently widowed owner...
  20. Thanks, it's been satisfying to restore the car but I am a bit over it now as it has taken so much of my time and I have other projects waiting. This includes a 968 CS and a very early manual 968 (1991 press car), both of which I purchased as donors for the RS but decided not to use once prices of 968's started to rise. Next car I'm working on is a 67 Lancia Fulvia Sport Zagato with an alloy body. Yes it will be road registered again. I would put on a club permit it if I could but it's not eligible until 2020.
  21. A number of people have asked me how the restoration of "number 4" is progressing so I've put together a short video. See https://youtu.be/IsJKzcFpsFU. Enjoy!
  22. $70K being honest and not trying to con someone. I said up front I was trying to help someone sell it.
  23. Seems topics like this attract a fair amount of interest..... and people perhaps trying to advantage of what they perceive to be some naivety on my part. The interest in a car like this is clearly out there so no need to respond further. From the feedback and my own research I'd conclude the car is probably worth $70K+ as is given someone is going to have to in put $40-50K to bring it back to top condition. Thanks anyway to everyone who responded, it will be advertised for sale in future I am told.
  24. It's not my car so nothing in it for me. Don't know sorry, I only saw the car for the first time today

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