911virgin Posted 18June, 2021 Report Share Posted 18June, 2021 2 hours ago, drmurugti said: I guess I will never own another 2s now with prices going crazy. autohaus just listed one... and a turbo, $399K! https://autohaushamilton.com.au/porsche-sales/porsches-for-sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Tinker Posted 18June, 2021 Report Share Posted 18June, 2021 15 minutes ago, 911virgin said: and a turbo, $399K! I've just noticed that its $70,000 more expensive than AH Ferrari 550 V12 Maranello of the same vintage (1998) and with nearly 3 times the mileage - must be the 550's bright red interior .... What's going on Bro ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 18June, 2021 Report Share Posted 18June, 2021 ppl trying to cash in? https://autohaushamilton.com.au/porsche-sales/porsches-for-sale manual CS, $320K!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo66 Posted 18June, 2021 Report Share Posted 18June, 2021 2 hours ago, MR901 said: I've owned my 993 for about 15 years. When I bought it I drove many with & without Varioram....my conclusion at the time was that there was very little difference in real world driving conditions. Scott SS964 & luzzo are 100% on the money that buying on condition / service history are more important. My 993 is a 94 pre-varioram.....it's my all time favourite car & have never felt short changed !! Thanks @MR901 @luzzo @Scott SS964 for your feedback on ownership. I get your points. I guess my perception has been that the varioram models were the one's to get but as stated; condition and service history would trump everything else notwithstanding asking $. Two questions: 1. Is the manual a must over the Tip or are the tips in these cars pretty good fun driving as well ? ... and 2. anybody here have direct knowledge of any 993's currently on sale which meet the criteria of having excellent service history and condition ? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99TS3 Posted 18June, 2021 Report Share Posted 18June, 2021 The Turbo looks like a bargain amongst the 2S and 4S Thommo66 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 18June, 2021 Report Share Posted 18June, 2021 4 hours ago, 911virgin said: ppl trying to cash in? https://autohaushamilton.com.au/porsche-sales/porsches-for-sale manual CS, $320K!! Already showing as "On Hold" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tomk86 Posted 18June, 2021 Report Share Posted 18June, 2021 4 minutes ago, luzzo said: Crazy stuff, but then I think to myself I’d rather this any day of the week than a 992 S that will halve in value over the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR901 Posted 18June, 2021 Report Share Posted 18June, 2021 4 hours ago, Thommo66 said: Thanks @MR901 @luzzo @Scott SS964 for your feedback on ownership. I get your points. I guess my perception has been that the varioram models were the one's to get but as stated; condition and service history would trump everything else notwithstanding asking $. Two questions: 1. Is the manual a must over the Tip or are the tips in these cars pretty good fun driving as well ? ... and 2. anybody here have direct knowledge of any 993's currently on sale which meet the criteria of having excellent service history and condition ? cheers To answer question #1. I think the answer depends on how you intend to use the car. I would never buy a tiptronic for a track car but would definitely consider as a daily driver with occasional blasts around the hills. I had a 996 with tipronic as a daily & loved it !! I personally prefer the purity of a manual however if you can find a tiptronic at a 50k discount don't ignore it. They are better than most write ups would have you believe & very easy to live with on a day to day basis... kov 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Chops Posted 18June, 2021 Report Share Posted 18June, 2021 993 tippers are horrible in my opinion. 996 tippers are far better. I’ve owned a 993 tip and never again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 21June, 2021 Report Share Posted 21June, 2021 On 18/06/2021 at 17:26, luzzo said: price has gone up to $349k! luzzo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 21June, 2021 Report Share Posted 21June, 2021 On 18/06/2021 at 17:29, tomk86 said: Crazy stuff, but then I think to myself I’d rather this any day of the week than a 992 S that will halve in value over the next decade. 13 minutes ago, 911virgin said: price has gone up to $349k! That 992 S is looking better and better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc968cs Posted 21June, 2021 Report Share Posted 21June, 2021 On 18/06/2021 at 17:29, tomk86 said: Crazy stuff, but then I think to myself I’d rather this any day of the week than a 992 S that will halve in value over the next decade. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 22June, 2021 Report Share Posted 22June, 2021 Sold..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twro Posted 23June, 2021 Report Share Posted 23June, 2021 Hi, a favour to ask please. A friend has a 993 he is considering selling, and I am trying to help with a valuation. Very hard due to the low sales volumes, and so hoping for some advice from the experts here! 1997 993 Carrera 2S Coupe Manual Arctic Silver 150,000km Full service history It was imported from UK in 2014, but for the sake of my question and to keep it simple let's pretend it's Australian delivered (I'll add the "UK tax" later) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99TS3 Posted 24June, 2021 Report Share Posted 24June, 2021 15 hours ago, twro said: Hi, a favour to ask please. A friend has a 993 he is considering selling, and I am trying to help with a valuation. Very hard due to the low sales volumes, and so hoping for some advice from the experts here! 1997 993 Carrera 2S Coupe Manual Arctic Silver 150,000km Full service history It was imported from UK in 2014, but for the sake of my question and to keep it simple let's pretend it's Australian delivered (I'll add the "UK tax" later) What the one above sold for and maybe knock 10 - 15% off that due to higher KM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLD Posted 24June, 2021 Report Share Posted 24June, 2021 7 minutes ago, 99TS3 said: What the one above sold for and maybe knock 10 - 15% off that due to higher KM? And some more for the UK delivery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 24June, 2021 Report Share Posted 24June, 2021 15 hours ago, twro said: pretend it's Australian delivered 2 minutes ago, 99TS3 said: What the one above sold for and maybe knock 10 - 15% off that due to higher KM? Not sure I'd agree with that. The Silver one at Autohaus only had 66,000kms. There's a premium attached to very low kms like that. There is an Aus delivered Red one for sale at the moment which (was listed before the Autohaus car) which has 119,000km and is $289k and still for sale. (Looks gorgeous to me and known to a PFA member iirc). Porsche 911 Carrera S 993 Manual.https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1997-porsche-911-carrera-s-993-manual/OAG-AD-19909226 If we are pretending your friends car @twro is Aus delivered, an example with 150,000kms would have to be discounted under that. (Maybe 10%..?). Then you would have to start with the UK import subtraction... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo66 Posted 24June, 2021 Report Share Posted 24June, 2021 46 minutes ago, luzzo said: Not sure I'd agree with that. The Silver one at Autohaus only had 66,000kms. There's a premium attached to very low kms like that. There is an Aus delivered Red one for sale at the moment which (was listed before the Autohaus car) which has 119,000km and is $289k and still for sale. (Looks gorgeous to me and known to a PFA member iirc). Porsche 911 Carrera S 993 Manual.https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1997-porsche-911-carrera-s-993-manual/OAG-AD-19909226 If we are pretending your friends car @twro is Aus delivered, an example with 150,000kms would have to be discounted under that. (Maybe 10%..?). Then you would have to start with the UK import subtraction... Also - basically depends how quickly you want to sell. Everybody is being opportunistic with the current market conditions and some are tossing crazy prices out there. If I was you or your mate I would be finding out what exactly the closed deal price was negotiated on the car above at Autohaus and then also look at that awesome guards red for sale at 289k as mentioned ( albeit that has not sold yet ) here and factor in the non-Aust delivered UK car import discount. I don't know whether that is 10 or 15% .... go with consensus view from other more experienced and long term P owners. Good luck ! sounds like a great car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS 3 Posted 24June, 2021 Report Share Posted 24June, 2021 24 minutes ago, Thommo66 said: Everybody is being opportunistic with the current market conditions and some are tossing crazy prices out there. The market is the market regardless; a buyer will always feel like prices are too high and a seller will always want at or around what the market is at any point in time. The 993 market has moved and rightly so it is probably now in line with the rest of the market. I had a guy say to me last week I could have bought a 993 2 years ago for 120k now I can't even get a manual coupe for love nor money. If we all had our investment caps on a 993 at 120k compared to a 79SC at the same money .......you know what i am saying. With regards to attaining true facts on sales data this is never really available unless its a public auction or an immediate source even then?; so all we have to go buy is the last listed price. 17 hours ago, twro said: It was imported from UK in 2014, but for the sake of my question and to keep it simple let's pretend it's Australian delivered (I'll add the "UK tax" later) Based on Hazza's Red car I'd work on 250-260K then allow 25-30k less for a UK car this is on the generous side others would depreciate the value of a UK car a lot more you'll find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 24June, 2021 Report Share Posted 24June, 2021 24 minutes ago, mrar said: arena red man 993 4s mmm... Arena Red 9934S. Lovely. SS 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twro Posted 24June, 2021 Report Share Posted 24June, 2021 Thanks everyone for the suggestions, most appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911 Posted 24June, 2021 Report Share Posted 24June, 2021 2 hours ago, mrar said: Not always about investment, could of bought a arena red man 993 4s years back with 90kms for $90k, missed another 933 manual around same time for $70k due to dealer incompetence. I don't feel sad a bout that, recon I dodged two bullets. I bought my aus 78 sc non sun manual for $68k years ago and wouldn't swap it for that 993 I missed in a fit. That's just me. I hope buyers and sellers get what they want, I did with this sc. I missed a 83' SC for $43,000 about 5 years ago. The market is unbelievable at the moment. I got an offer of $205,000 for my 88 3.2 with 170,000kms. Not concourse by any means, but a good car. Needless to say, as of last week I no longer own the car anymore. I've still got my early 3.2, which I don't plan on selling, but you know what they say, everything's for sale at the right price. P-Kay, Thommo66 and Peter M 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thommo66 Posted 24June, 2021 Report Share Posted 24June, 2021 3 hours ago, wangan said: Needless to say, as of last week I no longer own the car anymore. I've still got my early 3.2, which I don't plan on selling, but you know what they say, everything's for sale at the right price. Spot on ! ... thats exactly what's going on at the moment. Everything's for sale - at the right price ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS 3 Posted 1July, 2021 Report Share Posted 1July, 2021 993 market is buoyant i had a few people wanting mine hours after it going on sale last Saturday; the interest was such that it was making me feel i was under selling it. Anyway a successful PPI was completed today and the car is off to Sydney next week Happy buyer and seller. Mike D'Silva, symsy, Dreamr and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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