ANF Posted 31May, 2017 Report Share Posted 31May, 2017 Nothing to do with Porsche or cars but this is cool! I did not know anything about it at all... there are some 2 wheeled fans on here, enjoy!!https://www.lotus-motorcycles.com/ 200 hp 1200 V twin and 181 kg, should be some fun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperson Posted 31May, 2017 Report Share Posted 31May, 2017 That looks so so sweet but my neck is hurting just thinking about riding it on the street. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalai Posted 31May, 2017 Report Share Posted 31May, 2017 Nice! They did amazing things with the design of track and road bikes too before the UCI banned the design... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 31May, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 31May, 2017 That looks so so sweet but my neck is hurting just thinking about riding it on the street. Awesome. Looks ok to me, unless you have really short arms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperson Posted 31May, 2017 Report Share Posted 31May, 2017 Looks ok to me, unless you have really short arms lol. Agreed. It looked much longer and more of a reach in the naked pics. I have been accused though of my hands not reaching my pockets so maybe it is short arms! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 31May, 2017 Report Share Posted 31May, 2017 That,s a good power to weight ration 200bhp and 181 kg should be a very quick machine ,,,and love the retro styling and small front fairing looks fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhead Posted 31May, 2017 Report Share Posted 31May, 2017 Attention Lotus marketing dept. Its riding past a Triumph sign.LOTUS Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 31May, 2017 Report Share Posted 31May, 2017 That,s a good power to weight ration 200bhp and 181 kg should be a very quick machine ,,,It certainly is ; like an old 911 with over 1000hp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 31May, 2017 Report Share Posted 31May, 2017 Most of the current 1000cc super sports bikes like R1 and ZX10 ninga have similar power and weight figures and those bikes are just lethal on the road ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy468 Posted 1June, 2017 Report Share Posted 1June, 2017 Most of the current 1000cc super sports bikes like R1 and ZX10 ninga have similar power and weight figures and those bikes are just lethal on the road ...Crazy power to weight on this era of hyper sports bikes over the last 5 years or so, makes you wonder how much further manufacturers can continue with increased power to weight ratios over the next decade before they are basically unrideable, over say 8000 revs, in a general sense on the roads ... amazing technology on these bikes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 1June, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 1June, 2017 Crazy power to weight on this era of hyper sports bikes over the last 5 years or so, makes you wonder how much further manufacturers can continue with increased power to weight ratios over the next decade before they are basically unrideable, over say 8000 revs, in a general sense on the roads ... amazing technology on these bikes....SOFT!Imagine where we would be with development if the whole eco thing had not killed off one of the greatest engine designs ever, the 2 stroke!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy468 Posted 1June, 2017 Report Share Posted 1June, 2017 SOFT!Imagine where we would be with development if the whole eco thing had not killed off one of the greatest engine designs ever, the 2 stroke!!Coughing our lungs out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 1June, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 1June, 2017 Coughing our lungs outHaHa. Not if Bimota had a little more resources and $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 1June, 2017 Report Share Posted 1June, 2017 I Run 06 R1 motor in my track car MNR Vortx R1 ultra light ,,,the 06 motors were the last of screamers 180 hp 13000 rpm all day ,,,but these engines lacked Torque less than 90 ft lbs and you really have to work the motor and keep it above 6000 rpm or the car dies in the ass ,,,jump 10 years ahead to today and the 2017 R1 motor makes 200 hp still revs to 13000 rpm but the torque has increased substantially due to a cross plan crank being used and some other electronic wizardry ,,such as launch control , traction control ,anti front lift or no wheel stands at full power take offs ,,data logging and its own IP address that send engine and chassis info to your email and GPS lap timing that maps out the track and gives accurate timing with sector splits and all the bells and whistles .Every thing about these engines are built a long similar principals as old NA F1 engines ,,,,volumetric efficiency at high rpm = power ..feed huge amounts of air into the engine , right amount of fuel and ignite it ,,,,they really are astonishing and yes Yamaha must at some point reach the limits of technology with these engines..Many people ask me are they reliable due to some much power being generated from such a small engine and the high rpm they work at ..Answer is Yes ,,been racing my little car for 10 years know and it had its engine swapped 2 years ago ,,only because the previous engine that was still running was showing some compression loss and was getting tired after 8 years of track work ,,,sold the tired engine for $1500 on ebay and replaced it with a second hand Wrecker motor with 18000 klm on it current engine should be good for I hope another 5 or 6 years and only cost $3000 .......I don,t think you can get a better bang for your money from any other engine available they really are bullet proof .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 1June, 2017 Report Share Posted 1June, 2017 And I thought 190hp was crazy in my old Superbike in 2005! I couldn't ride it with the lightswitch power delivery, so the mob I was riding for gave me less power and more torque (ex Ducati racer, so I love torque) which gave me a much easier bike to ride. My mate David Johnson is the Norton factory rider at the Isle of Man, and he told me recently that they're easily making over 225hp, yet have to rein it in a bit to make the bike rideable. Jeeeebus!! I rode one of those new BMW race rep bikes a year ago, and holy shitballs was it fast! That bothers me when I see these guys in the hills with all the gear, yet no idea how to ride these things. They're A grade racer bikes out of the box, yet too many guys think because they have the best available, they know how to ride. I know of a lad that got his bike license, then 6 months later got off his P's and bought a new cross plane R1. He didn't see out the week, which begs the question, how much is too much for the road? I know its up to the rider what he/she does with the throttle, yet these new mega hp bikes should come with a few riding lessons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 2June, 2017 Report Share Posted 2June, 2017 I hear you mate the performance is crazy and they do not forgive stupid rides or people who kid themselves they can tame one ,,,,the first engine I had in my car had 950 klm on it couple of weeks old didn,t even get its firsts service and the owner killed himself on the bike,,, and the current engine came out of another crashed R1 that looked like it had gone under a car or something ,,,last superbike I rode was a ZX10 Ninga 08 keep it in the high gears and was very afraid it would take off and wheel stand ,,,was so scared of crashing it as I know how sensitive the throttle is in my car so was very gentle with the throttle application ,the bikes owner ended crashing it 6 months later anyway ,he was ok just a bruised ego,,,,,,I will stick to the cars ,,, those 1000cc superbikes are just to quick and at least the car has a roll cage ,,, harness ,,and tube chassis for some protection... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 2June, 2017 Report Share Posted 2June, 2017 Yyyyep! Last year I was asked if I want to race a few times, yet at 51, I have no desire to ride bikes at all let alone race the things. Strange really, as I lived and breathed bikes for as long as I can remember, yet I like a roof and heaters too much nowadays. Especially in a Porsche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 2June, 2017 Report Share Posted 2June, 2017 Yyyyep! Last year I was asked if I want to race a few times, yet at 51, I have no desire to ride bikes at all let alone race the things. Strange really, as I lived and breathed bikes for as long as I can remember, yet I like a roof and heaters too much nowadays. Especially in a Porsche Know where you are coming from, still have 2,but can`t get excited enough to just go for a ride,however every time I jump on the UJM to not get stuck in traffic, I thoroughly enjoy it and vow to do it more often.I think that the race reps with a million HP have spoiled the actual enjoyment of riding, It`s like using an Arial Atom as a DD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 2June, 2017 Report Share Posted 2June, 2017 I wouldn't say no to an early Harley V Rod (Porsche designed engine, so its ok to love an HD sometimes), yet I'd get busted trying to wheelie the thing at every set of lights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9r Posted 2June, 2017 Report Share Posted 2June, 2017 Still have a few big Japanese bikes and they never fail to put a smile on my face as the performance of these things is amazing. I Grew up with bikes and never been without one since I was a young bloke and nothing gives you that thrill and excitement, cars are a whole lot easier to drive quick and I think that is part of the thrill of the bike. The thing is (and this is the same With cars) is that you have to get the experience. I ride with a number of city guys now days and they have no idea, can't read the road and don't have the time on bikes from an early age on dirt but they are on very powerful bikes and are often an accident waiting to happen and that's no different in a car (it's just the consequences of a mistake that are greater on the bike)The most current bike I ride is an 08 R1 (180-190hp I think) which is the last of the high rev motors before the cross plain cranks came in. These motors have 4 valve heads and made even more power than the 5 valve head 06 motors made (which Raven mentioned above), the thing is these engines are like a gt3, more revs equal more power and you can meter it on and know exactly what you are going to get when you give it a bit more throttle (keep them up around 8000+ when your having a go) and are not intimidating at all. The new motors make more torque low down which make them 'easier' to ride in term of gear selection (being less critical) but you then face the nasty side of big increases in hp in a relatively short increase in revs which massively increases the risk of a high side when you are putting all that power down thru a few centimetres of tyreThese are just my thoughts and experiences from a lot of years riding and driving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 2June, 2017 Report Share Posted 2June, 2017 I wouldn't say no to an early Harley V Rod (Porsche designed engine, so its ok to love an HD sometimes), yet I'd get busted trying to wheelie the thing at every set of lights! Thought about it and looked at them but couldn't come at being a bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 2June, 2017 Report Share Posted 2June, 2017 I know this is not going to be nice to hear this perspective. I see these racer boys in our Valley.All of em stoking it.Many go over the top with their antics.Week days they come into our road works like they're demon possessed. 120 130 into a 40k work zone. Refusing or unable to stop putting lives at risk.Real outlaws. Even the patched up bikies have more respect than these.Ride to suit conditions. No wonder some die on OUR roads. At the very least the locals report it, so the cops monitor it. Pick up the pieces of body and deal with the now, 'their grief' and try not to take it home to their families. They can't do much so the speed limits are lowered again. Ignored again.Take it to the track.I dealt with a fatal at our site this week. Not a bike, a txta.Will we ever learn? Respect for others means everyone goes home.This is me dealing with my grief, I don't intend to offend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 2June, 2017 Report Share Posted 2June, 2017 That's cool mate. Allow me as one of those riders a few years ago In '98, I used to do laps of The Gorge road, SA, which is notorious for claiming numerous lives and severe injuries with bike riders. I was an A grade racer from 8 years before, and most of my riding mates were too. One day, a girl I was getting more than friendly with was on the back of a mates bike, he high sided and threw them both into an armco, killing her and giving him severe brain damage. To see it first hand is etched in my mind like it happened yesterday, the same as probably 8 or 9 of my good friends I lost in the hills, and I quit riding till I went back racing in 99 and won the state title that year. I discussed with the Police to do some riding awareness in the coffee shop at Lobethal, yet I was flogged by most of the riders up there for being a turncoat, and not having the 'F..k the Police' attitude. All I wanted to do as an A grade racer was tell them that it can happen to them, and here's the photo's of what the emergency services have to deal with, as I didn't want anymore people to die I'll be so bold to say I've been there and done that on bikes, especially in the hills, and I know how to ride....within my limits, not 101% just to show my mates how good I am. I was dared to race this guy on an R1 and me on a TRX Yamaha twin (90hp at best) on Basket Range road (much tighter and a road I know very well), so I did, and let him infront for 5 minutes, then as he was getting out of control, I passed him around the outside and buggered off as quick as I could. I was so far ahead, I had time to light a ciggie before he got to me, and he was gobsmacked. I did it to make a point and told him 'Well no mate, you're actually a pretty crap rider that's probably going to die if you don't slow down and learn how to ride' He died within months from a head on he caused by being on the wrong side of the road after running wide at huge speed. I tried, yet gave up trying to help My long winded off topic point is no matter how good you are as a rider, don't do it on the road, as things outside of your control will probably run you out of luck. Go to a track and see how good you are, as I'm positive that 70% or more riders are actually crap at riding. Holding the hand of a dear friend as they leave this world is a horrible thing to even imagine doing, so don't be so pig headed and think your a riding god, because you're not, neither am I. Every time I hear of a bike death, I get chills, and the memories come flooding back, as I know they're just out there enjoying life, only to make a mistake (usually the riders fault, but not always), yet there will always be accidents no matter what the authorities do to reduce the road toll, but don't be one of them who leave their family and friends behind for a little bit of fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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