Pork Chops Posted 22August, 2017 Report Share Posted 22August, 2017 I'm with Monkey Boy, Jeff and Neill. Modify or die!Also if your car is about the money then you're doing your day job wrong. Or get a cheaper car. Nissans are awesome to modify and drive and a lot less $$$. Or get a beater 911 a invest sweat equity.Unless you've got no brain, a heap of money, are a psychopath (Monkeyboy), or bought your car pre boom, or all of the above then you're not going to chop up a valuable car. You'll set it aside or sell it and then find the right car to hot up. Then there is no problem other than the cost of hotting up which is in its self mildly eye watering.Or do mods that are undo-able, have what you want then go back to stock of required.If you know shit from clay it's not that hard. I hope you don't stuff up the colour choice!I can't. It's a 911 so they all look good with a few exceptions. It's a matter of what's most right. I'm sure I'll be judged come the day so let's hope the world approves . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFX Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 I can't. It's a 911 so they all look good with a few exceptions. It's a matter of what's most right. I'm sure I'll be judged come the day so let's hope the world approves .There will always be someone who doesn't like your choice. I know I have fantastic taste, but some crazy people disagree with me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 There will always be someone who doesn't like your choice. I know I have fantastic taste, but some crazy people disagree with me Yes if your car came on the market I would pay a bucket load for it, except for that purple check interior....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 If you intend to drive the car and know what your looking at in terms of modifications (more so in terms of performance mods, suspension exhaust, type, quality etc.) they can add value to a purchase. It's just the $$$ "value" can differ between buyers/sellers. Cosmetic mods are harder to "value" as it really comes down to more personal tastes, its a more subjective exercise. Adding a turbo is a pretty extensive mod though, especially if you are looking to do it properly. Plenty of other mods I'd consider first if you are not fully committed to the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew F Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 Having built a few hotrods over the years (not Porsche's), I always approached it with the attitude that it's my hobby and I am paying to have fun. Same with having a ski boat, a chopper, hovercraft (sans eels), or whatever. If I wanted a return on my investment I would have put the money in a term deposit and taken up chess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 There will always be someone who doesn't like your choice. I know I have fantastic taste, but some crazy people disagree with me Now who would disagree with you SLITHR? ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlitzKonig Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 Having built a few hotrods over the years (not Porsche's), I always approached it with the attitude that it's my hobby and I am paying to have fun. Same with having a ski boat, a chopper, hovercraft (sans eels), or whatever. If I wanted a return on my investment I would have put the money in a term deposit and taken up chess.My father in-law always puts it as "tuition fee". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 I'd be asking the same about orig cars.. are they worth what they cost to resto.. and was is it fun once completed.had about 120 all up in a 71 oz (matching blah blah..) coupe and counting . Total rotisserie down to its undies.. new metal , new paint, factory anal-ity. With just that oh so right amount of Schutz , factory perfect new interior .. there's still a lot of work to go ... will it break even on cost if sold ... f&k nose. hotties, modded, tribute are all cool whether ex race or macchiato loons beater , or dear klassy .. they are a snapshot in time and display writ large in equal measure our desires aspirations and foibles .. it seemed last year hotties were verboten though I did note this year a rush of blood for a number of cars that hit the market - they all sold pretty promptly. An exception been a weapons grade , beautiful IROC type build done for targa tassie that has a stupid number on it.One of the cars sold though has come into Canberra, sold for arguably big money .. 140 plus, is a converted car, is having a truck load of detail work done for rego compliance and cosmetics cause new owner an anal pedant.Its a cracker and as bought was well under build and running costs, but orig builder amortised this over some years of motorsport and the PO took a bit of a hit as hadn't owned it that long and tipped money into it.. but enjoyed doing so I'm not certain at this juncture how to end what I'm writing ( let alone intent of what I wrote) as I'm thinking what a riot it'll be to hammer my mates RSR tribute in a few weeks time and musing over some needed details for TANGent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teutonic Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 I am with the hot rodders and clearly have a bias. But for me the car was to be driven, tracked, rallied without any care of mileage, depreciating a possibly valuable collectable or the wear and tear (stonechips etc) of being used. And I like modifying cars. Also while the performance of the standard car is good, the performance of a well modded one is bonkers! So the idea of having an original car wasn't for me. In my case I bought a hod rodded car to start with as the price was right as they were unloved, it had good bones, and just needed some refinement. (Someone else bastardised the Aus deliverd RHD shell) If you had a really nice original car but want more, probably best to sell it and either buy a hot rod or a basket case as other above have done and make it you own thing.At the same time I don't think the singer, magnus etc effect is hurting the market for a well modded hot rod. And I think the generally buoyant Porsche market gives you a bit of a hedge on spending money on mods if done well. Although I am always reminded....want to make a small fortune in motorsport....start with a big one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 Ahhh . Enlightenment ?? to actually answer the OP's question .. yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Chops Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 Ahhh . Enlightenment ?? to actually answer the OP's question .. yeswhy you no answer my txts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 A cause I'm a rude prickB cause you broke my heart C I didn't pay my bill D my partner says I spend too much time using my phone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pork Chops Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 A cause I'm a rude prickB cause you broke my heart C I didn't pay my bill D my partner says I spend too much time using my phone I get pinged for D all the time. It's a good lesson on what happens when you criminalise something. My phone habits have had to go underground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 If I started with a shell and had a choice - hot rod or standard restoration - hot rod would win hands down with the exception being the base car is something truly special.Hot rods are just so much more appealing. But don't be that guy who does it sh!t. And it's very easy to see what is sh!t. Case in point, the examples already linked above.Don't do a sh!t hot rod.You get bored with standard cars.You will pay through the nose to build either stock or modded.At the end of that pain, you may as well love what you get. If you're doing it for profit (good luck!), build standard. If you're building what you want, I reckon in 90% of cases, that's a hot rod.So whatever you do, do it well. Someone will appreciate it.But that doesn't mean you'll make money. If you want to make money, look elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
09ELF Posted 23August, 2017 Report Share Posted 23August, 2017 Everything is reversible....Even RWB =)Just takes more money.. End of the day its desire vs sense. Which devil will you speak to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
privatepang Posted 24August, 2017 Report Share Posted 24August, 2017 Yeah i was in a similar predicament last year but seeing as mines a mid year import and i had a big scratch on one side of the car, it was a no brainer for me. To be honest with regards to the value proposition, as other guys say, it all depends on the current fashion. You see forward dated cars which was all the rage back then go cheap and backdated cars currently seem to hold of increase in value (if done well). Who is to say that still remains the case in 5 to 10 years.I ended up selling a lot of my stock parts to fund the new parts (which hopefully i wont regret down the track) just coz i couldn't afford not to and it would be too pricey to revert back to stock after cutting up the guards etc. but again i didnt start with a RHD original delivered AUS car so my situation is different. I have no doubt that i could at least recoup my costs and potentially make a bit of profit if i was to sell it after i finish but again i bought my car as a non runner before everything went nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch-monkey Posted 24August, 2017 Report Share Posted 24August, 2017 Yeah i was in a similar predicament last year but seeing as mines a mid year import and i had a big scratch on one side of the car, it was a no brainer for me. To be honest with regards to the value proposition, as other guys say, it all depends on the current fashion. You see forward dated cars which was all the rage back then go cheap and backdated cars currently seem to hold of increase in value (if done well). Who is to say that still remains the case in 5 to 10 years.I ended up selling a lot of my stock parts to fund the new parts (which hopefully i wont regret down the track) just coz i couldn't afford not to and it would be too pricey to revert back to stock after cutting up the guards etc. but again i didnt start with a RHD original delivered AUS car so my situation is different. I have no doubt that i could at least recoup my costs and potentially make a bit of profit if i was to sell it after i finish but again i bought my car as a non runner before everything went nuts. i think backdates will remain popular but less common as people start to appreciate impact bumper cars in their own right, rather than the unloved generation used only to make backdates or forward dates.. so will see more impact bumper hot rods these days rather than people jumping straight to back dating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 24August, 2017 Report Share Posted 24August, 2017 I priced up most of the bits to backdate an SC last night with rennspd.com. Even I could afford it. Hmmm!! ? It probably wouldn't be this Zag built quality car (I vaguely recall around 200k asking price) but I'd love to do it to my SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg_guts Posted 26August, 2017 Report Share Posted 26August, 2017 Mine may be a good measure.She's not a wide body, not technically a hot rod but she's got a 3.6 and upgraded bits and pieces. So somewhere near the mark.I may be putting her up for sale in a couple months once I get rid of the storage cobwebs and tweak a couple of minor things.She's basically all the things the anoraks hate, US converted, heart transplant, other bits and pieces from the Porsche spare parts bin, but it makes such a great sound and I really enjoy driving her when I get the chance, which unfortunately, is not very often.I'll decide once she's in fine fettle. steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MFX Posted 26August, 2017 Report Share Posted 26August, 2017 Mine may be a good measure.She's not a wide body, not technically a hot rod but she's got a 3.6 and upgraded bits and pieces. So somewhere near the mark.I may be putting her up for sale in a couple months once I get rid of the storage cobwebs and tweak a couple of minor things.She's basically all the things the anoraks hate, US converted, heart transplant, other bits and pieces from the Porsche spare parts bin, but it makes such a great sound and I really enjoy driving her when I get the chance, which unfortunately, is not very often.I'll decide once she's in fine fettle. steveSounds like a great candidate, with half of the job done from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 26August, 2017 Report Share Posted 26August, 2017 You get bored with standard cars.. You still aint driven a GT3 dude!Its the only Vanilla ice cream that dont need sprinklesI still want another car with sprinkles though not cos that cars boring , just cos im bored…. Rogues satisfy that itchHow is that dirty bloody Red import of yours …..? Damn I shoulda bought that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUT Posted 26August, 2017 Report Share Posted 26August, 2017 You still aint driven a GT3 dude!Its the only Vanilla ice cream that dont need sprinklesI still want another car with sprinkles though not cos that cars boring , just cos im bored…. Rogues satisfy that itchHow is that dirty bloody Red import of yours …..? Damn I shoulda bought that Swap you for the GT3!New clutch, 930 brakes, throttle that now opens fully. But unfortunately it's a lefty and far from standard. I might have to pay you to take it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch-monkey Posted 27August, 2017 Report Share Posted 27August, 2017 hot rods ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidmarks Posted 27August, 2017 Report Share Posted 27August, 2017 I hope you don't stuff up the colour choice! Could take years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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