edgy Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 Either I've been living under a rock or they kept this one on the low, pretty well... https://www.pistonheads.com/news/german-cars/porsche-911-carrera-t-revealed/36960 Porsche Willoughby states, it will be priced from $260,000.00 on the road, plus options. Whats your thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 Genius marketing. It will sell, interesting to see at what premium 20kg comes at....? apparently $238k http://performancedrive.com.au/porsche-911-carrera-t-returns-sale-australia-238400-2310/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 991.1 R, 991.2 touring and now this.................riding the "back to basics" 911 gravy train till its wheels fall off. Fraz, micknine01 and SS 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 23October, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 991.1 R, 991.2 touring and now this.................riding the "back to basics" 911 gravy train till its wheels fall off. The R makes sense, this 911 Carrera T, it makes sense, however, I don't think they've done enough; i.e. we need to lose more than 20 kilos and they know most Aussie customers will add back in the "no cost option" PCM, electric seats still? anyway, the GT3 "touring" is possibly the dumbest thing Porsche has done to date... At $70k less, my pick of the litter right now would have to be the 718 GTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SS 3 Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 991.1 R, 991.2 touring and now this.................riding the "back to basics" 911 gravy train till its wheels fall off. Agreed Hugh I just hope they don't over do it, I'm all for unique stuff; just don't give it to me all at once .... it dilutes the experience and creates confusion for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 Read a Macan review in the newspaper on the weekend - interesting stats, Porsche = 2.5% of VW sales yet contributes 25% of the profit at the momentThey will milk the cow until the udders bleed and the cow dies; they have a minor Diesel emission issue that needs funding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 The R makes sense, this 911 Carrera T, it makes sense, In the same way a Toyota Camry Sportivo makes sense? Cars And Coffee Byron Bay, GUT, ANF and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 Next year they will put the 4 cylinder in it. KGB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 Next year they will put the 4 cylinder in it. and call it a 912..... Ozvino, LeeM and Troubleshooter 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 23October, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 In the same way a Toyota Camry Sportivo makes sense? No! I mean they keep within the ethos of the model... R = cool power plant, stick shift, lightened... ok. T = base model stripped back, lightened (albeit not light enough) ok. You cannot say that about GT3 touring ^^ the words f%^&*ng stupid come to mind... they really just made more R's hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D2000 Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 No! I mean they keep within the ethos of the model... R = cool power plant, stick shift, lightened... ok. T = base model stripped back, lightened (albeit not light enough) ok. You cannot say that about GT3 touring ^^ the words f%^&*ng stupid come to mind... they really just made more R's But with a better engine right? (legitimate question, not sarcasm...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 23October, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 But with a better engine right? (legitimate question, not sarcasm...)I doubt I will get to know first hand anytime soon.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 There have been rumors of it for some time on other forums ..........Personally I think it is a good idea from a marketing stand point and as mentioned above ,,,they will make up on the options as they always do ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cars And Coffee Byron Bay Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 I'd be tempted if it came in Tangerine.........but I think I'm just lonely. thumperson and KGB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldmxnut Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 Pity manual is 7 speed and not the 6 .. But I like the idea. I would be inclined to strip it out more. Still a GT4 would be the choice at same price point. edgy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 The cynic in me says they've taken a Carrera and stripped or some stuff which yo get little or no credit for then load up the option list. That is, it's a margin play.Pity the poor sod who doesn't get it and orders specs ne up beyond Carrera level, gets bugger all credit for deletions and pays through the nose for options. It seems to me you should buy a base car or don't bother.how much lighter is it anyway and will it really make any difference on the butt dyno?what will the marketing department come up with next.....a 914? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsujack Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 what will the marketing department come up with next.....a 914?912. Throw the 718 GTS engine out the back... @turboT you're new ride is coming, now just need to find a way to import LHD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 If you wanted a new (or newish) 911 that had the creature comforts but a little more focused, why not pick up a neat man 997 (an 'S' would be great), 2 x pole position seats, trick suspension, rubber etc. and save yourself 100-150k? Smaller, lighter and I'm guessing probably not too far off in terms of performance? Are these cars a result of a buyers lack of imagination, serve up something a bit "custom" for those who dare to be different? If you are an enthusiast and want a fun 911 to drive I cant help but feel that at 200k+ you have plenty of other options.....................drilled door handles would save some weight too. LeeM and DJM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 23October, 2017 Report Share Posted 23October, 2017 If you wanted a new (or newish) 911 that had the creature comforts but a little more focused, why not pick up a neat man 997 (an 'S' would be great), 2 x pole position seats, trick suspension, rubber etc. and save yourself 100-150k? Smaller, lighter and I'm guessing probably not too far off in terms of performance? Are these cars a result of a buyers lack of imagination, serve up something a bit "custom" for those who dare to be different? If you are an enthusiast and want a fun 911 to drive I cant help but feel that at 200k+ you have plenty of other options.....................drilled door handles would save some weight too. Logically yes, but some people just want a NEW car....Personally I would go one further back and look at a 996 But if money were no object and I wanted a real 911 experience in a new car I would take a base 991 with no options! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 24October, 2017 Report Share Posted 24October, 2017 I mean they keep within the ethos of the model... R = cool power plant, stick shift, lightened... ok. T = base model stripped back, lightened (albeit not light enough) ok. And probably charge more for it fue to exclusivity. Less is more apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 24October, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 24October, 2017 And probably charge more for it fue to exclusivity. Less is more apparentlyBase Carrera $240k on the road, $260k on the road (238k + orc), so yeah, you are absolutely right!! You get to pay more for less! Brilliant, I wish my business could do it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 24October, 2017 Report Share Posted 24October, 2017 991.1 R, 991.2 touring and now this.................riding the "back to basics" 911 gravy train till its wheels fall off. Youse 'enthusiasts' need to get some Harvard MBA sh!t happening in your lives.... hugh and GC9911 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 24October, 2017 Report Share Posted 24October, 2017 Youse 'enthusiasts' need to get some Harvard MBA sh!t happening in your lives....I always think of this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaOgZwk9rN8 KGB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsujack Posted 24October, 2017 Report Share Posted 24October, 2017 I don't understand the negativity around Porsche's new models and the multiple variants they offer. I think we're lucky Porsche offer so many choices. Would we rather a single offering? And even if you don't like what they sell out of the box, buy the best base that suits you and mod the F$*K out of it! Scott930, poli84 and Philbee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 24October, 2017 Report Share Posted 24October, 2017 I don't understand the negativity around Porsche's new models and the multiple variants they offer. I think we're lucky Porsche offer so many choices. Would we rather a single offering? And even if you don't like what they sell out of the box, buy the best base that suits you and mod the F$*K out of it!I'm not trying to be negative, just not a subscriber to the hype. I am well aware that I'm not the target demographic though itsujack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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