944s2cab Posted 18May, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 18May, 2018 37 minutes ago, Timm said: No worries. Yes the ARP's are probably overkill for an N/A. The baffle was just flat aluminum plate with a regular hinge on it, so yeah would be quite easy to make one yourself. I can't remember what I paid for the plastic baffle, but I don't think it was very expensive. I got the metal scraper, it was a reasonably good fit. It's made for stock rods though so has a little more clearance around the molnars. Did you order some Loctite 574? I didn't see it in your list, it's an anaerobic sealant which you will need for the girdle, oil pump, and balance shaft covers. Did you get the baffle from Porsche or overseas? I've heard conflicting reports of the benefit of the crank scrappers, some swear by them some see no need for them, Just ordered the loctite off ebay, 50ml is enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm Posted 18May, 2018 Report Share Posted 18May, 2018 3 minutes ago, 944s2cab said: Did you get the baffle from Porsche or overseas? I've heard conflicting reports of the benefit of the crank scrappers, some swear by them some see no need for them, Just ordered the loctite off ebay, 50ml is enough? I just checked, and I bought the baffle off ebay for $106 bucks...can't find any new ones on there for the same price at the moment, I guess I got lucky. Perhaps yours is in good enough condition to keep...mine cracked upon removal and was brittle as hell. Yes, I read that about crank scrapers too...I figured it can't harm though so put it in. 50mL is plenty for the loctite. The service manual will also call for the use of Curil T for the outer surface of the RMS, it's hard to find and very expensive though, so I used Permatex Aviation gasket No.3 in it's place. For everywhere else I used Permatex Grey RTV. You can get both of these at supercheap/autobarn etc. Something else to consider is a spray sealant for the cometic gasket. Cometic says you don't need it, but many people swear by it. I believe the Buchanan's use Hylomar spray. I used VHT copper spray gasket for mine. The only other things I can think of at the moment which you may need are clutch alignment tool, OPRV alignment tool and RMS installion tool (P234). You can get away without the special tools for the balance belts, but I'm sure you already found some way to do that anyway when you took the engine apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 18May, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 18May, 2018 1 hour ago, Timm said: I just checked, and I bought the baffle off ebay for $106 bucks...can't find any new ones on there for the same price at the moment, I guess I got lucky. Perhaps yours is in good enough condition to keep...mine cracked upon removal and was brittle as hell. Yes, I read that about crank scrapers too...I figured it can't harm though so put it in. 50mL is plenty for the loctite. The service manual will also call for the use of Curil T for the outer surface of the RMS, it's hard to find and very expensive though, so I used Permatex Aviation gasket No.3 in it's place. For everywhere else I used Permatex Grey RTV. You can get both of these at supercheap/autobarn etc. Something else to consider is a spray sealant for the cometic gasket. Cometic says you don't need it, but many people swear by it. I believe the Buchanan's use Hylomar spray. I used VHT copper spray gasket for mine. The only other things I can think of at the moment which you may need are clutch alignment tool, OPRV alignment tool and RMS installion tool (P234). You can get away without the special tools for the balance belts, but I'm sure you already found some way to do that anyway when you took the engine apart. Thanks for the heads up on the sealant, I was going to use Hylomar on the head gasket. I removed the engine through the top, this way you leave the clutch assembly still connected to the torque tube, should make fitting the clutch a doddle, I'll look into the OPRV alignment tool, I frequently install bearings and seals at work so I'm pretty sure I'll be OK with the RMS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm Posted 18May, 2018 Report Share Posted 18May, 2018 1 hour ago, 944s2cab said: Thanks for the heads up on the sealant, I was going to use Hylomar on the head gasket. I removed the engine through the top, this way you leave the clutch assembly still connected to the torque tube, should make fitting the clutch a doddle, I'll look into the OPRV alignment tool, I frequently install bearings and seals at work so I'm pretty sure I'll be OK with the RMS Ah I see, yeah no clutch alignment tool needed then. Re the OPRV tool, I think your engine will probably have the late single piece OPRV, which I think is possible to align without using the tool. I just had my machine shop turn a tool out of aluminum for me on the lathe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 18May, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 18May, 2018 While I'm waiting for engine parts to arrive and machining to be done, thought I'd do a few cosmetic stuff Painted brake booster Re-painted the valve colour a nicer more natural silver Rear seat cover on, the wrinkles should reduce/disappear with time Photos of the process of measuring cylinder head volume Smear a thin amount around the dish push the pespex plate in place Forgot to take pictures of the whole process but basically fill the void up with fluid (I used Kerosene) from a burrette (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pinch-Clip-Glass-Burette-with-Rubber-tubing-and-Glass-Jet-50-ml/183055736196?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649) and measure the amount it takes to fill The original M8 thread was stripped so I put a nut behind it, but now I've tapped it out to M10 and ued a collared bolt used for connecting Forklift bateery cells Sorting out the loom for the Coil on plug, sequential injection, Oil temp and oil pressure sensor, using some nice heatshrink https://www.wes.com.au/family.aspx?&pid=48805&fid=973148&byp=&cid=WES088214&path=K6WOvrM7yDGJsbKYFM1l%2b53cP8HUT0Dxg%2bPOAn2YvT2OJsMaIIAX6TxGbxOjHynNsROTj9mCw%2f2mg45U1bitf0iFA6PKebafoedbnWtNiudjudD8FUUsf8OdR4ASKeBH Nice new hard AC hard line made up by Autofrost in Milperra Special join by the brake booster allows the fitting/removal of the AC line very easy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 27May, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 27May, 2018 Just a few photo of what I've been up to killing time while the parts were arriving, This week, should be picking machined block up from Balmain Engineering in Artarmon, drop off crank, rods and piston at Hi-Tech Balancing at Severn Hills, for dynamic balancing of the rotating assenmbly, Purchase an extra clutch fork bearing (I only ordered one from FCP DOH!!!), get clutch flywheel refaced. Completed loom for the VEMS ECU, for coil on plugs, sequential injection, O2 sensor (UK cars had no O2 sensor from factory), oil pressure sender and oil temp sender (on oil filter sandwich plate) Goodies have arrived Molnar forged rods Bearings, gaskets, bolts, clutch line from FCP Euro Clutch fork axle had some very deep scores where the needle bearing sat, So I turned it 180 degrees and machined a new flat Peter M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 11June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 11June, 2018 Been a really busy 2 weeks While waiting for the block, I cleaned up the internal welds in the manifold Picked up the block from the machine shop, looks spot on. Cylinders 1&4 get their own pistons, 2&3 can use either It was also decked Dropped off all the components which move to get balanced (static and dynamically), I think it will be $120 well spent I wonder how many 10ths of a gram were taken off this pulley laid out ready to check the clearance 0.04-0.05 Not bad Wanted to order the Cometic head gasket ASAP, but to do that I needed to know the piston deck height, I'm not 100% happy with the bearing clearance, so I ordered another set, wont be too hard to replace them with the rods and pistons still installed Clocking of the rings, although Porsche state 120 degrees apart, this is due to a one piece oil scraper ring After a lot of research I decided to do this, Homemade ring end gap file, bit rough but served it's "one use" purpose very well Parallel gap? Definitely TIP, Be careful that those clips don't spring off, as you cant use the factory ones, they don't fit Pistons installed and measuring deck height, 0.12mm piston above deck Clutch parts cleaned and ready to be assembled The yellow paint matches up to the 2 missing teeth on the flywheel ( remember, these, crank rods, pistons etc are all balanced together) Hopefully this will improve the clutch pedal operation, which was always a bit weird with a notcheness near the biting point I wonder how hard it's going to be lining up the engine upon install Without bellhousing With Bellhousing and clutch Finally, after working out that there was going to be nearly 0.2 difference in compression ratio between cylinders, I wanted better than that, so spent the day with the Dremel and now they are all very close, CR is now a bit under 11.4:1, exactly where I want it, Going to implement a very tight knock control and limp home modes (oil temp. and pressure monitoring) in VEMS Gasket should be here by the end of the week, bearing may take a bit longer as they are coming from the US I'm off to the UK in mid July, would be nice to have her going before then Buchanan Automotive and brian in buddina 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakroo Posted 11June, 2018 Report Share Posted 11June, 2018 Wow, this is an amazing story of how you're progressing. Great to see you 'maintaining the rage' to get it 'just right'! 944s2cab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 13June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 13June, 2018 Ordered on Sunday, arrived on Tuesday, now that's what I call service, well done Cometic.com.au Nice and clean before being zipped up Cometic with Hylomar spray, I know they (Cometic) say put it on dry, but expert opinion has steered me this way Cylinder head is on, good job I noticed the missing dowels to locate the head, prob lost in machining process, anyway, made up 2 new ones out of the old clutch plate bolts 20NM, wait 15 minutes, 60 degrees, wait 15minutes and finally 90 degrees All tucked in for the night Balance covers sealed bolted and torqued Hopefully if the bearings come soon, I'll be fitting it next weekend Peter M, ANF, TINGY and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 15June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 15June, 2018 I'm really happy with the progress I'm making, Tonight , I fitted the oil filter, water pump, cams, chain tensioner, Here you can see the oil sandwich plate with a pressure and temp sensor, for the close monitoring by VEMS, I think for the sake of my marriage, I had better spend some time out of the garage this weekend HURRY UP BEARINGS!!!! FAP911 and ANF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 15June, 2018 Report Share Posted 15June, 2018 Looking good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 15June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 15June, 2018 5 minutes ago, ANF said: Looking good Thanks Adam, I'm really giving one big push to get it done before I go overseas lookout for my new thread about breaking in the engine, a hotly debated subject ANF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 17June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 17June, 2018 Very frustrated, dawned on me that I would have had the engine ready for fitting this weekend, if I wasn't waiting for the bearings, I hope they arrive this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 17June, 2018 Report Share Posted 17June, 2018 Playing the waiting game, don't you love it...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 20June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 Just some car candy for you, This was my birthday present to me (from me) Ceramic coatings by CompCoat in Granville https://www.facebook.com/CompCoatRaceCoatings/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 20June, 2018 Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 Hmmm, looks nice!! My birthday is coming up soon, well not really..... but if you are in a giving mood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzJustin Posted 20June, 2018 Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 Looking good mate! Can I ask what Comp Coatings charged you to silver ceramic coat the headers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 20June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 2 minutes ago, OzJustin said: Looking good mate! Can I ask what Comp Coatings charged you to silver ceramic coat the headers? $250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzJustin Posted 20June, 2018 Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 3 minutes ago, 944s2cab said: $250 Sounds like a fair price for the bling you're now rocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 20June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 1 minute ago, OzJustin said: Sounds like a fair price for the bling you're now rocking. Plus, should lower the temp. in the engine bay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzJustin Posted 20June, 2018 Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 1 minute ago, 944s2cab said: Plus, should lower the temp. in the engine bay Yes a definite perk. Did you have any leaks in the headers to sort out before coating? I've read it's pretty common for cracks given their age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 20June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 1 minute ago, OzJustin said: Yes a definite perk. Did you have any leaks in the headers to sort out before coating? I've read it's pretty common for cracks given their age. nah, no leaks, I did however grind down the welds inside an bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 20June, 2018 Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 5 minutes ago, 944s2cab said: Plus, should lower the temp. in the engine bay Interesting.... 928s have a lot of heat in the engine bay, a lot rammed into a tiny place!! May be worth looking into.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
944s2cab Posted 20June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 Just now, ANF said: Interesting.... 928s have a lot of heat in the engine bay, a lot rammed into a tiny place!! May be worth looking into.... Plus the bling is always an added bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 20June, 2018 Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 2 minutes ago, 944s2cab said: Plus the bling is always an added bonus Not in a 928, you can't see them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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