JV911 Posted 16April, 2018 Report Share Posted 16April, 2018 On 07/04/2018 at 3:14 PM, JV911 said: Some big $ cars here https://www.burnsandco.com.au/auction_single/clearing-sale-echuca-vic-and-deniliquin-nsw/ VK Grp A $305k VL Grp A $155k VL Walky $340k VN Grp A $210k LC GTR $165k 186 GTS Monaro $240k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 17April, 2018 Report Share Posted 17April, 2018 Who died? Edit: the dealership LeeM and Fraz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason A Posted 17April, 2018 Report Share Posted 17April, 2018 The silly money always comes out near the end of a price cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear924 Posted 17April, 2018 Report Share Posted 17April, 2018 4 hours ago, tazzieman said: Who died? Edit: the dealership The largish regional town where I live now has no Ford or Holden dealers. Growing up every one horse town had one of each. The only constant is change I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 17April, 2018 Report Share Posted 17April, 2018 1 hour ago, bear924 said: The largish regional town where I live now has no Ford or Holden dealers..... I suspect with the mess of models that Holden have, sales at all time lows, discounting and little apparent brand strategy, the prospect of Holden surviving to the end of this decade has to very slim. GC9911, bear924 and ANF 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 17April, 2018 Report Share Posted 17April, 2018 55 minutes ago, Peter M said: I suspect with the mess of models that Holden have, sales at all time lows, discounting and little apparent brand strategy, the prospect of Holden surviving to the end of this decade has to very slim. Holden or Opel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 17April, 2018 Report Share Posted 17April, 2018 Yes, what is a Holden nowadays? A shambles of rebadged vehicles of no shared identity or competitive advantage. How do you market that? GM's sale of Opel to PSA - competing manufacturers - without Holden knowing was the icing on the already festering shit sandwich. All a bit of a sad end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 17April, 2018 Report Share Posted 17April, 2018 Holden is starting to circle the drain, no doubt. The commodore won't last 2 years because once the depreciation figures come in for the new model, the fleets won't touch them. It will go faster than the Magna did. Ford is going to survive being a global brand and well positioned with the ranger, the focus and the fiesta, plus the mustang. Name a good Holden ... Can't think of a single one. It all goes to show that the marketing and brand management people continue to have no clue or understanding of why people bought Commodores in the first place, and why they should have let the name die in peace like the falcon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 17April, 2018 Report Share Posted 17April, 2018 They will be GM branded dealers soon, selling what you’d expect - Chev, Cadillac, GMC, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 17April, 2018 Report Share Posted 17April, 2018 That was the original promise but what have they delivered? I think the whole re-engineering to have these vehicles available in RHD as well as LHD has been too expensive for such small market segments already flooded with competitive other manufacturers that they have not followed through. The fact that GM have pulled out of selling Chevs in Europe suggests its all too hard and the economics don't stack up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vl gra Posted 18April, 2018 Report Share Posted 18April, 2018 I met up with a Holden employee today. He advised that the marketing manager got the arse. A new one has been employed from VW in Germany. They have always employed these marketing managers from overseas. They would be better off employing someone from our country that understands what the public would like to see. He also said there figures are right down and believes that they will be in trouble. He said the new Commodore is a great car. Problem i see and he agreed is that they should have dropped the name as well as the Astra. They should have re-branded their whole line up. I think they would have more success doing that. Really if you have been a loyal Commodore buyer, you are not going to continue to buy them. When someone hears the name Astra they think of the TS and AH shit boxes, so there lies another problem. The only car in their line up that is any good is the Colorado IMO. LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 18April, 2018 Report Share Posted 18April, 2018 Correct ^ Holden as we know it is dead. You can't keep flogging a dead horse, so let it die with dignity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV911 Posted 18April, 2018 Report Share Posted 18April, 2018 11 hours ago, vl gra said: He said the new Commodore is a great car. They actually are rather good. I don't see them selling in great numbers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominicxu1 Posted 18April, 2018 Report Share Posted 18April, 2018 If you missed out on these top dollar Aussie muscle cars at these auctions you have a second chance. They will be on sale at Gosford Bunnings. Dominic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZ930 Posted 18April, 2018 Report Share Posted 18April, 2018 12 hours ago, vl gra said: The only car in their line up that is any good is the Colorado IMO. And that is a rebadged Isuzu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 18April, 2018 Report Share Posted 18April, 2018 11 minutes ago, OZ930 said: And that is a rebadged Isuzu. Every Holden is a re-badged something...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 19April, 2018 Report Share Posted 19April, 2018 6 hours ago, ANF said: Every Holden is a re-badged something...... Unlike the old Toyota Lexcen. Not a Commodore at all, nooooo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZ930 Posted 19April, 2018 Report Share Posted 19April, 2018 6 hours ago, ANF said: Every Holden is a re-badged something...... Not the Kingswood !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 19April, 2018 Report Share Posted 19April, 2018 5 minutes ago, OZ930 said: Not the Kingswood !! Pfft! I was talking new..... There is a story that every Holden since the HD (that GM stylists were called into fix to make the HR) had the hand of GM all over it. leading it to what GM wanted! Wow substantial thread drift happening...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 19April, 2018 Report Share Posted 19April, 2018 9 hours ago, ANF said: Every Holden is a re-badged something...... Opel, and from a while back as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 19April, 2018 Report Share Posted 19April, 2018 32 minutes ago, TINGY944 said: Opel, and from a while back as well It's an opeless situation for all concerned! firstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 19April, 2018 Report Share Posted 19April, 2018 42 minutes ago, TINGY944 said: Opel, and from a while back as well A lot of the current ones come from the Daewoo factory once GM bought that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 19April, 2018 Report Share Posted 19April, 2018 2 minutes ago, ANF said: A lot of the current ones come from the Daewoo factory once GM bought that. Well daewood do that wouldn't they? firstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 19April, 2018 Report Share Posted 19April, 2018 19 minutes ago, tazzieman said: Well daewood do that wouldn't they? You are in fine form with the "dad" jokes tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 19April, 2018 Report Share Posted 19April, 2018 1 hour ago, ANF said: You are in fine form with the "dad" jokes tonight Punning is the lowest form of wit and I have 72 years worth of practise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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