StevepGT3 Posted 5February, 2019 Report Share Posted 5February, 2019 https://www.mygenerator.com.au/generac-13kva-gas-stand-by-generator.html/ thinking of getting one of these, any of the brains trust on here have any experience or opinions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhead Posted 5February, 2019 Report Share Posted 5February, 2019 Gunna use to charge your electric car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 5February, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 5February, 2019 4 minutes ago, Airhead said: Gunna use to charge your electric car? motorised scooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 5February, 2019 Report Share Posted 5February, 2019 @Stew F may have an idea with this sorta thing StevepGT3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port 911 Posted 6February, 2019 Report Share Posted 6February, 2019 When we lived on acreage, we used a Honda backup generator, would run almost every thing in the house. One tank of fuel last about 15 hours on Eco mode. PC, Fridges, TV etc, etc It got lots of use, we used to get power outs all of the time. StevepGT3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 6February, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 6February, 2019 3 minutes ago, Port 911 said: When we lived on acreage, we used a Honda backup generator, would run almost every thing in the house. One tank of fuel last about 15 hours on Eco mode. PC, Fridges, TV etc, etc It got lots of use, we used to get power outs all of the time. I work from home and regularly get 8 + hour blackouts which is most inconvenient .I like the idea of this one being hooked up to the gas line. Port 911 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port 911 Posted 6February, 2019 Report Share Posted 6February, 2019 41 minutes ago, StevepGT3 said: I work from home and regularly get 8 + hour blackouts which is most inconvenient .I like the idea of this one being hooked up to the gas line. I also work from home, so needed good reliable power. Do like to idea of it being hooked up to the gas line though. Ideal if you already had gas hooked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 6February, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 6February, 2019 Just now, Port 911 said: I also work from home, so needed good reliable power. Do like to idea of it being hooked up to the gas line though. Ideal if you already had gas hooked up. got gas Port 911 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 6February, 2019 Report Share Posted 6February, 2019 Got any wood?https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html firstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 6February, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 6February, 2019 1 hour ago, tazzieman said: Got any wood?https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html Might live in the Hills, but the names not Billy Jimmy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhead Posted 6February, 2019 Report Share Posted 6February, 2019 8 hours ago, StevepGT3 said: got gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 6February, 2019 Report Share Posted 6February, 2019 6 hours ago, StevepGT3 said: Might live in the Hills, but the names not Billy There's tons of embodied energy in timber. Really it's just solar energy in nature's battery. All you need to access the concentric gold is a petrol powered chainsaw. Cheers, William firstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew F Posted 8February, 2019 Report Share Posted 8February, 2019 On 06/02/2019 at 11:29, Port 911 said: I also work from home, so needed good reliable power. Do like to idea of it being hooked up to the gas line though. Ideal if you already had gas hooked up. I design gas powered gensets for wellsite service power in the CSG industry. If you want to discuss this at any time PM me. It's not as straightforward as you might think though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 8February, 2019 Report Share Posted 8February, 2019 2 hours ago, Stew F said: I design gas powered gensets for wellsite service power in the CSG industry. If you want to discuss this at any time PM me. It's not as straightforward as you might think though. Many things sound easy in theory , but in reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew F Posted 8February, 2019 Report Share Posted 8February, 2019 5 hours ago, tazzieman said: Many things sound easy in theory , but in reality Maybe you can explain that to some of the dudes I work with. Everything is a 5 minute job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 8February, 2019 Report Share Posted 8February, 2019 16 hours ago, tazzieman said: Many things sound easy in theory , but in reality Like removing that last bolt of 12 which is rusted and now stripped that only a nuclear holocaust can remove 😡 firstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 8February, 2019 Report Share Posted 8February, 2019 25 minutes ago, LeeM said: Like removing that last bolt of 12 which is rusted and now stripped that only a nuclear holocaust can remove 😡 We've all been there! Except for those who open their wallet for others to suffer. GLWB firstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Brennan Posted 8February, 2019 Report Share Posted 8February, 2019 20 hours ago, Stew F said: I design gas powered gensets for wellsite service power in the CSG industry. If you want to discuss this at any time PM me. It's not as straightforward as you might think though. Who are you working with? I used to work for Enerflex and may be able to help with some leads if needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 16April, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 16April, 2019 First real emergency averted Troubleshooter, firstone and P-Kay 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchFinder Posted 18April, 2019 Report Share Posted 18April, 2019 As someone who works with generators every day I'll throw my two bob in........ Gas versus Diesel isn't an easy choice. Gas has less energy, so requires more fuel for the same output. Gas engines also tend to be more maintenance intensive, and due to the necessary bits and bob also tend to fail more often if underloaded........I've seen a gas engine do three lots of heads in under 6 months due to low loading. Gas powered gennies also tend to have a poorer response to load changes, although I generally deal with 500kVA plus units, so a smaller set may not have quite the same issues. Most of the issues with diesel are well known. IMHO the best option is a bifuel unit, all the best features of diesel with the better fuel economy of a gas set. Unfortunately they're less easily available, and cost more initially. Also don't forget that there are other expenses involved in a generator install.....transfer switch, anti islanding/paralleling controls, etc. It's not as easy as plugging it into the wall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 18April, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 18April, 2019 2 minutes ago, WitchFinder said: As someone who works with generators every day I'll throw my two bob in........ Gas versus Diesel isn't an easy choice. Gas has less energy, so requires more fuel for the same output. Gas engines also tend to be more maintenance intensive, and due to the necessary bits and bob also tend to fail more often if underloaded........I've seen a gas engine do three lots of heads in under 6 months due to low loading. Gas powered gennies also tend to have a poorer response to load changes, although I generally deal with 500kVA plus units, so a smaller set may not have quite the same issues. Most of the issues with diesel are well known. IMHO the best option is a bifuel unit, all the best features of diesel with the better fuel economy of a gas set. Unfortunately they're less easily available, and cost more initially. Also don't forget that there are other expenses involved in a generator install.....transfer switch, anti islanding/paralleling controls, etc. It's not as easy as plugging it into the wall! Yep, the install cost as much as the generator, the maintenance scheduled is pretty intensive, including new oil,plugs and valve clearance after the first 25 hours running, but not as often after that, the good thing is it`s a simple pushrod air cooled V twin motor with good access, so it will be pretty easy to do. looks like after the first service it will only be a once every two year job, going by past outages, but even if more often it looks like it will only take an hour or so to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelrik911 Posted 18April, 2019 Report Share Posted 18April, 2019 1 hour ago, StevepGT3 said: Yep, the install cost as much as the generator, the maintenance scheduled is pretty intensive, including new oil,plugs and valve clearance after the first 25 hours running, but not as often after that, the good thing is it`s a simple pushrod air cooled V twin motor with good access, so it will be pretty easy to do. looks like after the first service it will only be a once every two year job, going by past outages, but even if more often it looks like it will only take an hour or so to do. Curious - which brand genset did you end up getting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 18April, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 18April, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zelrik911 said: Curious - which brand genset did you end up getting? Generac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew F Posted 19April, 2019 Report Share Posted 19April, 2019 23 hours ago, WitchFinder said: I've seen a gas engine do three lots of heads in under 6 months due to low loading. Underloading is a big issue, particularly on smaller systems. Incorrectly sized loadbanks (or none at all), or gensets that are just too big for the job. Regardless, they should be run up to full load regularly to keep the engine in good shape. With gas fueled sets, we have 100's of engines in the CSG fields, offering +99% availability. Engine life has been very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevepGT3 Posted 2July, 2019 Author Report Share Posted 2July, 2019 Update on the Generator, since install we have had about 12 outages most 30 or so minutes, one for 2 hours and two 8 hours plus, what a ripper of a thing it is, I have my work machines hooked up to UPS`s so they take over for the 30 seconds it takes the generator to do it`s stuff and come on line and then it`s business as usual and life goes on uninterupted by a miss managed and cost cut power grid. Not that it matters much and it`s not possible to work out exactly, but our last gas bill, which included all outages bar one of the 8 hour ones was an extra $40.00 Troubleshooter, Redracn and GC9911 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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