Ozgrade3 Posted 5May, 2020 Report Share Posted 5May, 2020 After working for 35 years to be in the position to buy a 911 without debt, I was eagerly waiting on the 911 992 GTS to be launched. In the least few days Porsche Australia has dropped a bombshell, all future 911's will be PDK only. I don't want a PDK Porsche. I will only ever be able to buy 1 brand new Porsche and I want it with a manual transmission. I don't care about lap times or gear change times etc etc etc. I want a manual transmission for my own enjoyment. Can one buy a new 911 manual from a Porsche dealer in the UK, or direct from the factory and privately import it. It feels like 35 years of work has been a wast of time I'm sorry to say. Feeling gutted to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGA Posted 5May, 2020 Report Share Posted 5May, 2020 No you can’t. only way you can buy and import a car that is less than 25 years old is to have owned the car in the UK for more than 12 months and have drive it a minimum of 6,000 Kms. But even if you were allowed, the import duty, GST and LCT taxes that would be levied on the car would make it economically unviable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 5May, 2020 Report Share Posted 5May, 2020 29 minutes ago, Ozgrade3 said: After working for 35 years to be in the position to buy a 911 without debt, I was eagerly waiting on the 911 992 GTS to be launched. In the least few days Porsche Australia has dropped a bombshell, all future 911's will be PDK only. I don't want a PDK Porsche. I will only ever be able to buy 1 brand new Porsche and I want it with a manual transmission. I don't care about lap times or gear change times etc etc etc. I want a manual transmission for my own enjoyment. Can one buy a new 911 manual from a Porsche dealer in the UK, or direct from the factory and privately import it. It feels like 35 years of work has been a wast of time I'm sorry to say. Feeling gutted to say the least. @Ozgrade3 I feel so disappointed for you. I am in your camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Phil Posted 5May, 2020 Report Share Posted 5May, 2020 Read @WGA recent post in 991 GT3 thread about manual vs PDK. PDK is fantastic. After 35 years of waiting, get a PDK not the manual, you will not regret it. Otherwise buy a GT4 or 718 GTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGA Posted 5May, 2020 Report Share Posted 5May, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lucky Phil said: Read @WGA recent post in 991 GT3 thread about manual vs PDK. PDK is fantastic. After 35 years of waiting, get a PDK not the manual, you will not regret it. Otherwise buy a GT4 or 718 GTS Yes, if having a manual is an itch you have to scratch, then the GT4 or GTS is a great option. Alternatively you could seek out a used 991.1 or 991.2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 5May, 2020 Report Share Posted 5May, 2020 Why not a 991.2 GT3 Touring ,,,,certainly would not disappoint you .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozgrade3 Posted 5May, 2020 Author Report Share Posted 5May, 2020 I have exacting requirements for this once in a lifetime purchase. It must be new, in exactly the colour, trim & and spec that I want.....and a manual. I've driven every model and the 911 is the only one I want, A PDK is boring, I had one in the Uk for 4 days. To me there was nothing to differentiate it from a Camry. For both you just flex your right foot. That's not fun. Would a manual be classed as a "variant" under the SEVS regulations. As far as I can can see, as it's a variant of a model that is not sold here it seems to qualify. https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/vehicles/sevs/files/SEVS_Eligibility_Criteria.pdf The Cayman GT4 sounds nice, but gearing is way too long for the street and it's refinement is not what I expect on a 250K car. Sure, it's ok for a track day but it's 20 years since I have been to a race track let alone driven on one. Buying one in the UK and garaging it for a year doesn't sound too bad however. 6000 km would be a nice holiday with some Scottish highland roads to explore. As far as import taxes and LCT...I don;t care, you only live once. FWIW, the new Supra is a nice sporty car, but oh so boring as an auto too. I certainly wouldn't pay 110K for an auto Toyota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 5May, 2020 Report Share Posted 5May, 2020 I don't think it's as easy as just buying it and putting it in a garage ... I think you have to live in the country you're importing from for at least 12 months as well .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 5May, 2020 Report Share Posted 5May, 2020 13 hours ago, Ozgrade3 said: After working for 35 years to be in the position to buy a 911 without debt, I was eagerly waiting on the 911 992 GTS to be launched. In the least few days Porsche Australia has dropped a bombshell, all future 911's will be PDK only. I don't want a PDK Porsche. I will only ever be able to buy 1 brand new Porsche and I want it with a manual transmission. I don't care about lap times or gear change times etc etc etc. I want a manual transmission for my own enjoyment. Can one buy a new 911 manual from a Porsche dealer in the UK, or direct from the factory and privately import it. It feels like 35 years of work has been a wast of time I'm sorry to say. Feeling gutted to say the least. Have you driven the 992? the 3.0l turbo is far more dissapointing than the PDK. Personally I am a total PDK fan/convert Go with a 991.2 GT3 or a 991.1 GTS if you long for a manual transmission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porka987s Posted 5May, 2020 Report Share Posted 5May, 2020 12 hours ago, Dreamr said: I don't think it's as easy as just buying it and putting it in a garage ... I think you have to live in the country you're importing from for at least 12 months as well .... Yes, you need to prove you are living and working in the UK for 12 months, vehicle tax papers, insurance, etc... Dreamr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 6May, 2020 Report Share Posted 6May, 2020 2 hours ago, Ozvino said: 991.1 GTS if you long for a manual transmission I've never been lucky enough to see one for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 6May, 2020 Report Share Posted 6May, 2020 2 hours ago, luzzo said: I've never been lucky enough to see one for sale. they come up from time to time - probably 2 or 3 in the past 12 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 6May, 2020 Report Share Posted 6May, 2020 4 hours ago, luzzo said: I've never been lucky enough to see one for sale. Targa GTS Manual https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2015-porsche-911-4-gts-991-manual-awd-my16/SSE-AD-5338492/?Cr=53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 6May, 2020 Report Share Posted 6May, 2020 1 hour ago, Ozvino said: Targa GTS Manual https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2015-porsche-911-4-gts-991-manual-awd-my16/SSE-AD-5338492/?Cr=53 I figured that one might come up. Pretty much $100k over a similar spec 991.1 GTS Coupe. Albeit a manual, price needs to reasonable. ie, far less than 991.1 GT3 money. I almost want to give in to PDK and buy this: Check out this 2015 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS 991 Auto AWD MY15.https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2015-Porsche-911-Carrera-4-GTS-991-Auto-AWD-MY15/SSE-AD-5263961 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 6May, 2020 Report Share Posted 6May, 2020 These are as close as it gets to a new manual and ticking some of your boxes Oz. 28 and 22 klms https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2018-porsche-911-gt3-991-manual-my18/SSE-AD-5591209/?Cr=1 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/porsche/911/r-badge/991-series/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 6May, 2020 Report Share Posted 6May, 2020 3 hours ago, luzzo said: I figured that one might come up. Pretty much $100k over a similar spec 991.1 GTS Coupe. Albeit a manual, price needs to reasonable. ie, far less than 991.1 GT3 money. I almost want to give in to PDK and buy this: Check out this 2015 Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS 991 Auto AWD MY15.https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2015-Porsche-911-Carrera-4-GTS-991-Auto-AWD-MY15/SSE-AD-5263961 Great looking car, for me personally the GTS is the pick of the bunch in 3.8 spec have you driven a PDK? this is a great looking car also and comes with warranty that can be extended out until the car is 15 years old https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2015-Porsche-911-Carrera-GTS-991-Auto-MY16/SSE-AD-6580120?pageSource=details&id=SSE-AD-6580120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earemike Posted 17June, 2020 Report Share Posted 17June, 2020 I’m obviously not a Porsche forum expert but I can see no reason for Porsche Australia to decline your special order? If you said no RHD manuals would be produced then ok, in your case it should come down to connecting with the right person. When a dealer of another German brand told me I couldn’t have what I wanted the Australian distributor was more helpful... good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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