smit2100 Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 For the brains trust to kick a can down the road. How far off are we having an economical electric crate 3.2 SC flat six kit that drops onto aircooled engine / tranny mounts along with other supporting bolt ons ( eg battery kit and cradle, e motor control unit / e drive by wire throttle pedal etc? The 3.2 motor is effectively a hollow 3d print version and inside the casing is an electric motor / driveshaft setup). Then you can buy bolt on (plastic / aluminium) replica lookalike ancillary engine "e" parts to make the engine look factory riddy didge depending on your level of OCD. ( aldi get away with knockoff packaging / branding right. Then in relation to the frunk, do you reckon a battery kit that drops in the frunk will upset the driving dynmatic with circa double the hp and much more weight p front. Do you do anything with the fuel tank. I.e fuel pump kit with plumbing open to atmosphere with a valve. Eg if you want to add weight, come up with some weightaide that you add to water that is rust neutral that is defacto fuel. Or do you model a battery kit that has the same weight and shape as the factory fuel tank with half a tank of gas in it. I.e Drop the fuel tank and bolt in a replacement battery / cradle and tof course the electric plug replaces the fuel cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9er Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 I know people do such things, but the 'essence' of an air cooled Porsche is the engine?? wilson59 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilson59 Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 Fuel is cheap . Let's burn some Buchanan Automotive and micknine01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 Wash your mouth out Sir, three words that should never be in the same sentence...….Electric.....A/C Porsche......Aldi I can see myself driving an electric car someday but would never wish to convert my 3.2 into an electric version. All its soul will be gone Dalai 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 I will stick with what I like ,,,,,and electric just isn,t what I like .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 You're a sick man Smit. Playing with those Audi S4s has warped your brain. Seek help! Troubleshooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 Yes a good idea. Was thinking about this after reading about the guy who made a smallblock chev drop in. Yes you'd make the battery cradle go in the fuel tank hole. I think conversions often stuff some more in the engine bay as well - it's just a choice of range. it would be a bit heavier and mess up the feel a bit. But fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 Elon Smit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 Interesting topic @smit2100. I saw a 912 shell somewhere that needed a complete resto and had no engine or gb, etc. I wondered whether with that as a starting point, an electric kit would be a much more viable than trying to rebuild to standard. Based in the replies here there’d be little demand to ever sell it 😂 but I reckon it would produce plenty of giggles to drive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 His neighbors would be happy, unlike any A/C drivers neighbours when heading out for an early morning SMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smit2100 Posted 14May, 2020 Author Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 3 hours ago, Rob said: You're a sick man Smit. Playing with those Audi S4s has warped your brain. Seek help! Fyi, the playing is not limited to s4's. Same s4 receipe for a 996 turbo applies and is in the not in a rush works. eg strictly bolton / bolt offs( factory parts preferred) around a carefully selected turbo and tune ( focused on reduced lag and better throttle response in the lower /mid rpm range whilst ramping up the boost. Sort out factory suspension and brakes and keep the rest of the car looking as stock as a rock. ( sleeper unless you are in the know with hood popped or its on a hoist. Basically got every rubber bit, valve and sensors covered on every water, oil and boost line. Impressive looking set of rebuilt snails plus more than a few unused p part numbers lifted from early aircooled cars to 996 gt3, 996g2, 997, 997 turbo and 997gt2rs. Need to chase the 1%'s as well, eg 997 turbo exhaust manifold is a better cast and responds better to some internal porting and along with adressing one section on the plenum line can get you 500rpm -700 of earlier spoolup. Only difference to the s4 is the parts are all bagged and tagged with parts numbers diagrams where applicable in bags but haven't quite made it onto the car yet. I'm not a wrencher and progress is snail pace slow. Eg Bull at a gate within the first 100km of ownership. Exhaust with 35km and tune within 100km of ownership and most of those k's were to and from a workshop. Next couple of years on of ownership and it's snail pace progress, the only thing touched is removing the only mod on the car when I brought it, being removing the gemballa short shifter to a factory 997 shifter. But have the car laid up currently for a bit of yellow love to go on it., Eg ohlins coilovers, adjustible toe links and gt3 / gt2 brake and suspension bits to compliment the olhins. So a manual petrol watercooled 911 itch is scratched and plenty more itches to keep sratching on there. Aircooled not so, eg hard to reconcile getting more hp in 2nd gear in a watercooled than peak hp in an aircooled for similiar coin. Electric motor kit for the right outlay would fix that bang for buck discrepancy for me in an aircooled. So for a boost junky, an Aircooled 911ELECTOMATIC with about 300awkw on all 4 wheels would tick the box for me. Just would be nice to get a bit of electric motor whine that's audible to replace the induction noise associated with last century turbo tech. I had plenty of giggles in my S4. But I'm thinking a longhood 911 Electromatic would be up their as a highly prized traffic light sleeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhead Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 Yeah yeah. You can do all that and it will be quick as buggery. But you can't make the NOISE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 57 minutes ago, smit2100 said: Fyi, the playing is not limited to s4's. Same s4 receipe for a 996 turbo applies and is in the not in a rush works. eg strictly bolton / bolt offs( factory parts preferred) around a carefully selected turbo and tune ( focused on reduced lag and better throttle response in the lower /mid rpm range whilst ramping up the boost. Sort out factory suspension and brakes and keep the rest of the car looking as stock as a rock. ( sleeper unless you are in the know with hood popped or its on a hoist. Basically got every rubber bit, valve and sensors covered on every water, oil and boost line. Impressive looking set of rebuilt snails plus more than a few unused p part numbers lifted from early aircooled cars to 996 gt3, 996g2, 997, 997 turbo and 997gt2rs. Need to chase the 1%'s as well, eg 997 turbo exhaust manifold is a better cast and responds better to some internal porting and along with adressing one section on the plenum line can get you 500rpm -700 of earlier spoolup. Only difference to the s4 is the parts are all bagged and tagged with parts numbers diagrams where applicable in bags but haven't quite made it onto the car yet. I'm not a wrencher and progress is snail pace slow. Eg Bull at a gate within the first 100km of ownership. Exhaust with 35km and tune within 100km of ownership and most of those k's were to and from a workshop. Next couple of years on of ownership and it's snail pace progress, the only thing touched is removing the only mod on the car when I brought it, being removing the gemballa short shifter to a factory 997 shifter. But have the car laid up currently for a bit of yellow love to go on it., Eg ohlins coilovers, adjustible toe links and gt3 / gt2 brake and suspension bits to compliment the olhins. So a manual petrol watercooled 911 itch is scratched and plenty more itches to keep sratching on there. Aircooled not so, eg hard to reconcile getting more hp in 2nd gear in a watercooled than peak hp in an aircooled for similiar coin. Electric motor kit for the right outlay would fix that bang for buck discrepancy for me in an aircooled. So for a boost junky, an Aircooled 911ELECTOMATIC with about 300awkw on all 4 wheels would tick the box for me. Just would be nice to get a bit of electric motor whine that's audible to replace the induction noise associated with last century turbo tech. I had plenty of giggles in my S4. But I'm thinking a longhood 911 Electromatic would be up their as a highly prized traffic light sleeper. You've convinced me - how about an electric conversion kit for my S4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 What no more turbo, can't imagine that............ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hectic+habib+turbo+sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian in buddina Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 drop in electric kit to a boxster/cayman to the front axle will need some black boxes & a nerd to program it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 14May, 2020 Report Share Posted 14May, 2020 1 hour ago, brian in buddina said: drop in electric kit to a boxster/cayman to the front axle will need some black boxes & a nerd to program it That would work well a Hybrid Boxster like a baby 918 .............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamingporsche Posted 15May, 2020 Report Share Posted 15May, 2020 2 hours ago, Raven said: That would work well a Hybrid Boxster like a baby 918 .............. Not interested unless it's got blue flames from exhaust outlets behind the headrest... Raven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZ930 Posted 15May, 2020 Report Share Posted 15May, 2020 40 minutes ago, flamingporsche said: Not interested unless it's got blue flames from exhaust outlets behind the headrest... Well that can be done with electronics, a fuel tank and injectors flamingporsche 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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