911Gbanger Posted 6October, 2020 Report Share Posted 6October, 2020 Hey guys, Looking at updating a stock exhaust on my 964 targa Carrera 2. What off the shelf options are there or am I better off getting a custom one fabricated. I’m located in Adelaide. btw I don’t mind loud 😬 looking forward to ‘hearing’ what’s out there. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 6October, 2020 Report Share Posted 6October, 2020 26 minutes ago, 911Gbanger said: btw I don’t mind loud 😬 Don’t say you weren’t warned: http://www.montymufflers.com/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911Gbanger Posted 6October, 2020 Author Report Share Posted 6October, 2020 5 minutes ago, Stepo said: Don’t say you weren’t warned: http://www.montymufflers.com/index.html Thanks Stepo, it doesn’t seem like they make pipes for anything late than 89 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 6October, 2020 Report Share Posted 6October, 2020 Sorry mate, I thought they covered 964. What about Fabspeed or Dansk? https://www.fabspeed.com/porsche/911-carrera-964/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 6October, 2020 Report Share Posted 6October, 2020 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-964-993-technical-forum/607107-best-exhaust-engine-upgrades-964-a.html Google "g pipe" Ask fellow PFA'ers: Mike D'Silva and Tit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 6October, 2020 Report Share Posted 6October, 2020 Andy recently posted a vid re Fister, take care googling that Someone on here may have something they want to offload Andy73 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 6October, 2020 Report Share Posted 6October, 2020 1 hour ago, Peter M said: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-964-993-technical-forum/607107-best-exhaust-engine-upgrades-964-a.html Google "g pipe" Ask fellow PFA'ers: Mike D'Silva and Tit I have a G pipe, simplest cheapest mod to achieve a pretty cool sound. Cat bypass is a further option, again inexpensive. Both will give you a slight performance improvement. Depends what your goal is? Bits can be bought from the usual UK on-line suspects. Few hundred in total I recall. Peter M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy73 Posted 6October, 2020 Report Share Posted 6October, 2020 I've been super happy with the Fister. Combine it with a stock primary muffler and you'll get a good increase in growl. I run mine with a cup pipe and love the combination. Absolutely no drone when cruising. Here's my video review (including sounds of drive bus etc...) Scott930, FAP911 and firstone 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAP911 Posted 7October, 2020 Report Share Posted 7October, 2020 3 hours ago, Andy73 said: I've been super happy with the Fister. Combine it with a stock primary muffler and you'll get a good increase in growl. I run mine with a cup pipe and love the combination. Absolutely no drone when cruising. Here's my video review (including sounds of drive bus etc...) One of the best exhaust reviews I've watched Well done firstone and Andy73 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy73 Posted 7October, 2020 Report Share Posted 7October, 2020 1 hour ago, FAP911 said: One of the best exhaust reviews I've watched Well done Thanks very much mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911Gbanger Posted 7October, 2020 Author Report Share Posted 7October, 2020 20 hours ago, Stepo said: Andy recently posted a vid re Fister, take care googling that Someone on here may have something they want to offload haha yes very careful 😂 5 hours ago, Andy73 said: I've been super happy with the Fister. Combine it with a stock primary muffler and you'll get a good increase in growl. I run mine with a cup pipe and love the combination. Absolutely no drone when cruising. Here's my video review (including sounds of drive bus etc...) great videos mate..👏 apihdafn6__24522.1469481470.jpg.jp2Thanks for all the replies guys.. So I've looked into the g-pipe(secondary bypass) and looks to be a great option with a (primary bypass) which cuts out the big muffler at the back. both of these are available from fabspeed. what do you guys think that idea? BMG_7530__04350.1432825375.JPG.jp2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli84 Posted 7October, 2020 Report Share Posted 7October, 2020 If you don't spend the big bucks and go with the amazing Fister, my recommendation is a Cup pipe and the factory secondary muffler. I had the G-pipe and it does sound good but the Cup pipe is more of a classic air-cooled sound in my books so I benched the G-pipe and installed an FVD Cup Pipe. I also have a Fabspeed Sport Cat but that was more of a performance than sound upgrade, very happy with that also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911Gbanger Posted 8October, 2020 Author Report Share Posted 8October, 2020 21 hours ago, poli84 said: If you don't spend the big bucks and go with the amazing Fister, my recommendation is a Cup pipe and the factory secondary muffler. I had the G-pipe and it does sound good but the Cup pipe is more of a classic air-cooled sound in my books so I benched the G-pipe and installed an FVD Cup Pipe. I also have a Fabspeed Sport Cat but that was more of a performance than sound upgrade, very happy with that also. Thanks again poli84, don't think ill go the Fister. I'm sure its a great product i just don't want an unnecessary muffler when i can just delete it with a G-pipe. So i think im going to go with the fabspeed primary and secondary bypass setup with the sports cat. Thanks again to everyones reply's, links and comments certainly helped me get my head around the whole exhaust system. Stepo and poli84 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D'Silva Posted 8October, 2020 Report Share Posted 8October, 2020 I have one of these if you are interested... 16 hours ago, 911Gbanger said: So i think im going to go with the fabspeed primary and secondary bypass setup with the sports cat. so that means you are going to run an open pipe?? I've tried it.. it's stupid loud and obnoxious. I drove around the block and was so embarassed. firstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 8October, 2020 Report Share Posted 8October, 2020 I can't go loud anymore either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV911 Posted 8October, 2020 Report Share Posted 8October, 2020 On 06/10/2020 at 19:12, Stepo said: Sorry mate, I thought they covered 964. What about Fabspeed or Dansk? https://www.fabspeed.com/porsche/911-carrera-964/ I had the fabspeed system and was pretty happy with it - not too obnoxious but sounds like it means business. A little boomy at highway speeds, but apparently the new ones are better. At $6k landed from the US for a full system, you might as well get a custom system. firstone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy73 Posted 8October, 2020 Report Share Posted 8October, 2020 19 hours ago, 911Gbanger said: Thanks again poli84, don't think ill go the Fister. I'm sure its a great product i just don't want an unnecessary muffler when i can just delete it with a G-pipe. So i think im going to go with the fabspeed primary and secondary bypass setup with the sports cat. Thanks again to everyones reply's, links and comments certainly helped me get my head around the whole exhaust system. Wait, you're deleting both and running a sport cat? I had a G pipe originally and when I fit the cup pipe i tried running the two together (primary and secondary bypass) and it was batshit loud. And not actually a nice sound - completely overwhelmed the classic Porsche sound. @poli84 has a great setup (have heard it many times) and it'd be an easy one to try. He also has an open airbag which I think adds to the sound. If you're still not feeling it's loud enough you could then do the secondary bypass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911Gbanger Posted 11October, 2020 Author Report Share Posted 11October, 2020 On 09/10/2020 at 09:20, Andy73 said: Wait, you're deleting both and running a sport cat? I had a G pipe originally and when I fit the cup pipe i tried running the two together (primary and secondary bypass) and it was batshit loud. And not actually a nice sound - completely overwhelmed the classic Porsche sound. @poli84 has a great setup (have heard it many times) and it'd be an easy one to try. He also has an open airbag which I think adds to the sound. If you're still not feeling it's loud enough you could then do the secondary bypass. Ok yes lol I think you’re right it’ll probably be a bit too loud. That setup sounds like a good one. The fister muffler will be a good option with cup pipe and sportcat. Andy73 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli84 Posted 12October, 2020 Report Share Posted 12October, 2020 I agree with @Andy73, primary and secondary muffler delete is too much, way too much. When installing my cup pipe (primary delete), i went for a drive while the G-pipe was still fitted and it was horrible. I would stick with the primary delete, retain factory secondary (don't bother with the G-pipe) and then a sports cat. As Andy said, i have an open airbox too which makes great induction noise and nice lift off-throttle rasp. Andy73 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS911 Posted 12October, 2020 Report Share Posted 12October, 2020 7 hours ago, poli84 said: I agree with @Andy73, primary and secondary muffler delete is too much, way too much. When installing my cup pipe (primary delete), i went for a drive while the G-pipe was still fitted and it was horrible. I would stick with the primary delete, retain factory secondary (don't bother with the G-pipe) and then a sports cat. As Andy said, i have an open airbox too which makes great induction noise and nice lift off-throttle rasp. Do you have any video/audio of your system? I'm running Fabspeed primary and secondary delete with dual tips. I'm pretty happy with it but always open for change! I was running a cat delete but the car was too smelly for street use. I tried a high flow cat but settled for factory in the end. A bit more 'muted' throttle response but I was happy to compromise since retiring the car from track days. I have custom high flow and Fabspeed cat delete if anyone is looking for those options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli84 Posted 13October, 2020 Report Share Posted 13October, 2020 15 hours ago, DS911 said: Do you have any video/audio of your system? I'm running Fabspeed primary and secondary delete with dual tips. I'm pretty happy with it but always open for change! I was running a cat delete but the car was too smelly for street use. I tried a high flow cat but settled for factory in the end. A bit more 'muted' throttle response but I was happy to compromise since retiring the car from track days. I have custom high flow and Fabspeed cat delete if anyone is looking for those options. Not specifically but if you check out Andy's youtube chanel, my car is in a few of the videos so you will get a little idea. Couldn't give you time stamps of where it appears but it is in there multiple times and Andy's video's are great so not the worst thing to sit through . Maybe check out the Alpine Range Rally III where my car is the thumbnail and the post Christmas run videos. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPQdUw0rnzqUIDHYWun2EWA Andy73 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DS911 Posted 13October, 2020 Report Share Posted 13October, 2020 5 hours ago, poli84 said: Not specifically but if you check out Andy's youtube chanel, my car is in a few of the videos so you will get a little idea. Couldn't give you time stamps of where it appears but it is in there multiple times and Andy's video's are great so not the worst thing to sit through . Maybe check out the Alpine Range Rally III where my car is the thumbnail and the post Christmas run videos. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPQdUw0rnzqUIDHYWun2EWA Thanks very much. I think I'll end up watching all those videos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911Gbanger Posted 13October, 2020 Author Report Share Posted 13October, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 14:34, poli84 said: I agree with @Andy73, primary and secondary muffler delete is too much, way too much. When installing my cup pipe (primary delete), i went for a drive while the G-pipe was still fitted and it was horrible. I would stick with the primary delete, retain factory secondary (don't bother with the G-pipe) and then a sports cat. As Andy said, i have an open airbox too which makes great induction noise and nice lift off-throttle rasp. Open air box? Do you have a link or a picture of it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poli84 Posted 14October, 2020 Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 15 hours ago, 911Gbanger said: Open air box? Do you have a link or a picture of it ? It's just this one, nothing special, the previous owner of my car had it installed when I purchased over 6 years ago. Arguments could be made about heat with an open airbox, i have nothing to prove or disprove that and have left it on the car. Sounds great, looks good and my 964 runs great so I'm happy (also have a MAF conversion as well as the above mentioned Sport Cat and Cup Pipe). https://www.fabspeed.com/porsche-964-carrera-cup-high-performance-airbox/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911Gbanger Posted 14October, 2020 Author Report Share Posted 14October, 2020 1 hour ago, poli84 said: It's just this one, nothing special, the previous owner of my car had it installed when I purchased over 6 years ago. Arguments could be made about heat with an open airbox, i have nothing to prove or disprove that and have left it on the car. Sounds great, looks good and my 964 runs great so I'm happy (also have a MAF conversion as well as the above mentioned Sport Cat and Cup Pipe). https://www.fabspeed.com/porsche-964-carrera-cup-high-performance-airbox/ Nice 👌 the air box looks good. I like it. Yeh I noticed on one of your other videos on the MAF conversation. Great video very informative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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