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4 hours ago, James P said:

I wonder if they have a dealers license here & pay tax here?

Someone here should set one up, maybe i should? 

There is at least a couple of Aust alternatives, they just aren’t getting much traction. 

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22 hours ago, npvpositive said:

Was $107k full value, fair value or a bargain?  Experts?

Nick,

I'm no expert but if everything about that car was good, I'd say it was still a full price ticket buy.

But given the limited photos, it's history and the fact that no one could have a good look at it before purchase, I'd say the buyer has taken quite a financial risk.

My experience is that the reality is always worse than what is shown in the photos! 

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2 hours ago, Peter M said:

My experience is that the reality is always worse than what is shown in the photos!

Yep I bet you are right on this one too. I had photos of the UK listed targa  sent through and it makes for a very interesting viewing. To my untrained eye, I swear the car has been badly beaten up and repaired. The final product does look and present extremely well though. One photo potentially shows some unscrupulous activity

 

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11 minutes ago, Nicko82 said:

No, but I wish I did. That is a gorgeous car. 

I have a LHD C3 coupe for sale.. it should be a little quicker than the silver one. 

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7 minutes ago, Mike D'Silva said:

No, but I wish I did. That is a gorgeous car. 

I have a LHD C3 coupe for sale.. it should be a little quicker than the silver one. 

I must say, I really wasn't on the lookout for a Targa but they are growing on me. I don't know much about the 3.0 - any comments? And finally - what does everyone think it's worth??

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Targas are brilliant. And this one in silver looks fab. Last one of the C3 in targa I think sold for 100k plus

 

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I have taken a look at the site.  As a long term bat afficianado and inveterate internet ad browser I’m not particularly impressed with collecting cars.  Apart from the site having a distinct UK feel, overrun with yellow plates and the somewhat strange language they use to sell cars in the uk, it doesn’t allow me to filter by make, country of sale, price range or anything like that.  It also seems as though the buyer premium isn’t capped at any point leading to some possibly high buyers commissions.   The Australian side of things feels tacked on and not well integrated to me.  I’ll keep an open mind and see where it goes.  There is a great opportunity for an Australian auction site for enthusiast vehicles but it will need to address local conditions and help with photographers, a dedicated local audience and all the rest. 

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7 hours ago, Coastr said:

I have taken a look at the site.  As a long term bat afficianado and inveterate internet ad browser I’m not particularly impressed with collecting cars.  Apart from the site having a distinct UK feel, overrun with yellow plates and the somewhat strange language they use to sell cars in the uk, it doesn’t allow me to filter by make, country of sale, price range or anything like that.  It also seems as though the buyer premium isn’t capped at any point leading to some possibly high buyers commissions.   The Australian side of things feels tacked on and not well integrated to me.  I’ll keep an open mind and see where it goes.  There is a great opportunity for an Australian auction site for enthusiast vehicles but it will need to address local conditions and help with photographers, a dedicated local audience and all the rest. 

there is this crowd... 

https://www.summon.com.au/

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The slow loading page and graphics sent me running for the back button.

I live in hope bat will expand ...or maybe cars and bids.  Or someone local starts a passion project on a good experience over cashing in.

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On 12/01/2021 at 23:48, Coastr said:

It also seems as though the buyer premium isn’t capped at any point leading to some possibly high buyers commissions. 

They do have an AU$1,000 minimum fee and a maximum AU$10,000. Its listed on their FAQ page.

I wondered the same thing when I first went and looked at their site ...

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On 12/01/2021 at 23:48, Coastr said:

I have taken a look at the site.  As a long term bat afficianado and inveterate internet ad browser I’m not particularly impressed with collecting cars.  Apart from the site having a distinct UK feel, overrun with yellow plates and the somewhat strange language they use to sell cars in the uk, it doesn’t allow me to filter by make, country of sale, price range or anything like that.  It also seems as though the buyer premium isn’t capped at any point leading to some possibly high buyers commissions.   The Australian side of things feels tacked on and not well integrated to me.  I’ll keep an open mind and see where it goes.  There is a great opportunity for an Australian auction site for enthusiast vehicles but it will need to address local conditions and help with photographers, a dedicated local audience and all the rest. 

Totally agree. Also, the level of detail on the listings and descriptions is nowhere near that of BaT. If I’m buying sight unseen I want to see detail of known rust areas and the floor / pan. Most importantly, though is the community on BaT - lots of pointy questions that are quickly answered by keen sellers inspires confidence in buyers. The 2 platforms are Miles apart IMO. If only they would come down under....

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6 minutes ago, Moobs said:

Totally agree. Also, the level of detail on the listings and descriptions is nowhere near that of BaT. If I’m buying sight unseen I want to see detail of known rust areas and the floor / pan. Most importantly, though is the community on BaT - lots of pointy questions that are quickly answered by keen sellers inspires confidence in buyers. The 2 platforms are Miles apart IMO. If only they would come down under....

I suspect that BaT can barely keep up with their home market. I heard the founder interviewed a while back and I think he mentioned they were selling 300+ cars a week!  
 

The knowledge in their community base is off the charts.  

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On 12/01/2021 at 19:16, Nicko82 said:

I must say, I really wasn't on the lookout for a Targa but they are growing on me. I don't know much about the 3.0 - any comments? And finally - what does everyone think it's worth??

Sold for $72500+bp

Smashed by the write off disclosure I’m guessing. 

 

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11 minutes ago, OBRUT said:

Sold for $72500+bp

Smashed by the write off disclosure I’m guessing. 

 

Great looking car! 

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11 hours ago, OBRUT said:

Sold for $72500+bp

Smashed by the write off disclosure I’m guessing. 

 

Missing pieces of window glass could also be seen as a reflection (sorry) of patchy upkeep.

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Think the seller may have be the current owner of Indian Automotive, a VW specialist based in Penrith. They repair and restore old VW's, in particular Kombi's. Given the sellers line of business, it looks like this may have been initially sourced with the intention to repair and flip?

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On 31/12/2020 at 08:15, Shedpest said:

It was on CS for a few months, obviously didn't sell then.

I really love the colour of this car. Any idea what it was listed on Carsales for? Was it $115,000 maybe?

Tonight the auction on CC finished and it was passed in, last bid was $95k (not inc buyers fees). 

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6 minutes ago, twro said:

I really love the colour of this car. Any idea what it was listed on Carsales for? Was it $115,000 maybe?

Tonight the auction on CC finished and it was passed in, last bid was $95k (not inc buyers fees). 

Great looking car! 

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41 minutes ago, twro said:

I really love the colour of this car. Any idea what it was listed on Carsales for? Was it $115,000 maybe?

Tonight the auction on CC finished and it was passed in, last bid was $95k (not inc buyers fees). 

So I guess that begs the question .. does this auction site actually work, or are the sellers expectations too high?? (all sellers, not this car in particular) ..

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I think it’s a mixture of both tbh.
 

CC is new in Australia and hasn’t yet got the right confidence level of the local market, historically auctions are where you sell off a motor with a few issues. The bloke spruiking the cars is popping up all over facetube groups as well, it doesn’t seem to be working properly for them. Conversely in the U.K. and Europe it’s got a steady reputation and has garnered some significant sales, there’s a few Aussie cars that have been bought by U.K. buyers, both the recent 2 door Range Rovers for example and they fetched good money.

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On 07/01/2021 at 09:55, James P said:

I wonder if they have a dealers license here & pay tax here?

Someone here should set one up, maybe i should? 

I have purchased from https://tradinggarage.com/

 

Similar thing, but Australian company.  Good experience, nice and easy way to transact.  

 

P.S. 6% up to $10k buyers fee stings!  But guess you have to factor that into the price.

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