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So we have 2 new P Zeros on the back now. And that’s made a huge difference to how it drives. 
 

Here it is today at the start of operation roadworthy! Gotta love the iPhone wide angle for odd distorted 911 pics 

at the least she’s getting new rear discs and pads, brake fluids done (the major service should have included these but the books weren’t stamped by the PPI mob so we are making sure it’s actually done) new wiper blades and hopefully a working horn as part of the RWC 
 

Fingers crossed for no more surprises!

 

EDIT: Can now report - there were no more surprises! 

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In another thread someone asked me what the lesson was regarding the PPI  missing the gear box issue. At the time I couldn't quite come up with what the lesson I had learnt was!

For some this will be easy and a no brainer, but to us that haven't bought many 20 year old cars - it might not be that obvious

Everyone says 'get a PPI'  but nobody mentions that maybe the PPI could miss a big ticket item and then what happens?  You might have bought a car based on the findings only to discover that your budget is completely blown by something totally unexpected AFTER you parted with your hard earned for that PPI all the Porsche people tell you you need!

Lets face it. This can cause not only some financial grief but also personal grief at home - the latter I'm familiar with!

Firstly -  ask seller to take a photo of the speedo as they drop the car off for the PPI.  Honestly, I still wonder how far my car was even driven.  As soon as the car is in any traffic in 2nd it pops out of gear.  If they only drove it 1km along a 60km speed limit and just went through the first 3 gears, then they might not have seen the issue.  They've not conducted an adequate test drive.  And having that speedo reading will actually tell you how far or if it was even test driven.

Second - I have had a bunch of people now message me privately telling me their PPIs also missed nasty items that were surprises later on.  Some of the Indy specialists that conducted th0se PPIs would shock you if you knew who they were.    ALWAYS factor in an extra $10k for those unexpected things that you might discover after the car gets to you.  Worse case you have lots of cash for mods later because you didnt need that money!  

If there is a missed item, the buyer has very little recourse.  And if you leave a defamatory google review, they can come after you with their lawyers.  If you leave a very accurate and truthful review that you can back up, they still can sue you and you might end up ok because you left a truthful review BUT really, is it worth the hassle?   Probably not.

After all this - I dont know what the GB rebuild will cost. I am working through that now.  I am kinda lucky really,  they could have missed the car having a big front or rear impact - but this car is actually VERY good.  Other than the magnus type patina and a few broken bits inside  - its a very original car and I LOVE IT.  

 

RWC done - Registration happening on Tuesday. Can't wait.  

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, withers said:

In another thread someone asked me what the lesson was regarding the PPI  missing the gear box issue. At the time I couldn't quite come up with what the lesson I had learnt was!

For some this will be easy and a no brainer, but to us that haven't bought many 20 year old cars - it might not be that obvious

Everyone says 'get a PPI'  but nobody mentions that maybe the PPI could miss a big ticket item and then what happens?  You might have bought a car based on the findings only to discover that your budget is completely blown by something totally unexpected AFTER you parted with your hard earned for that PPI all the Porsche people tell you you need!

Lets face it. This can cause not only some financial grief but also personal grief at home - the latter I'm familiar with!

Firstly -  ask seller to take a photo of the speedo as they drop the car off for the PPI.  Honestly, I still wonder how far my car was even driven.  As soon as the car is in any traffic in 2nd it pops out of gear.  If they only drove it 1km along a 60km speed limit and just went through the first 3 gears, then they might not have seen the issue.  They've not conducted an adequate test drive.  And having that speedo reading will actually tell you how far or if it was even test driven.

Second - I have had a bunch of people now message me privately telling me their PPIs also missed nasty items that were surprises later on.  Some of the Indy specialists that conducted th0se PPIs would shock you if you knew who they were.    ALWAYS factor in an extra $10k for those unexpected things that you might discover after the car gets to you.  Worse case you have lots of cash for mods later because you didnt need that money!  

If there is a missed item, the buyer has very little recourse.  And if you leave a defamatory google review, they can come after you with their lawyers.  If you leave a very accurate and truthful review that you can back up, they still can sue you and you might end up ok because you left a truthful review BUT really, is it worth the hassle?   Probably not.

After all this - I dont know what the GB rebuild will cost. I am working through that now.  I am kinda lucky really,  they could have missed the car having a big front or rear impact - but this car is actually VERY good.  Other than the magnus type patina and a few broken bits inside  - its a very original car and I LOVE IT.  

 

RWC done - Registration happening on Tuesday. Can't wait.  

 

 

 

I commend you on remaining positive amongst obvious undeserved frustrations means, when these tribulations pass you will enjoy your beautiful new car.

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2 hours ago, tomo said:

Good  job but how did you get a RWC witha a crook gear box?

It only does it under some circumstances.  PPI didnt pick it up ;)  

 

2 hours ago, Carrera28 said:

I commend you on remaining positive amongst obvious undeserved frustrations means, when these tribulations pass you will enjoy your beautiful new car.

Well no point being annoyed about something out of my control - just get on and fix it. Put it all behind me :)  

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13 hours ago, withers said:

BUT really, is it worth the hassle?   Probably not.

100% 

I have had some rather unsavoury experiences with a few well known P car businesses & personalities, and I arrived at the same conclusion as you, it’s just not worth dedicating any mental bandwidth to it, however if I am asked (and this is a small community) I have no hesitation giving a detailed explanation on my experience... usually it’s a deal breaker so I know enough people will vote with their wallets as a result, no need for me to actively sling shit to hurt their business, it happens in a more organic manner you may say! 
 

Glad to hear the car is good to go for rego, hopefully the gearbox, isn’t too much of a doozy than it already is. 

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7 hours ago, edgy said:

100% 

I have had some rather unsavoury experiences with a few well known P car businesses & personalities, and I arrived at the same conclusion as you, it’s just not worth dedicating any mental bandwidth to it, however if I am asked (and this is a small community) I have no hesitation giving a detailed explanation on my experience... usually it’s a deal breaker so I know enough people will vote with their wallets as a result, no need for me to actively sling shit to hurt their business, it happens in a more organic manner you may say! 
 

Glad to hear the car is good to go for rego, hopefully the gearbox, isn’t too much of a doozy than it already is. 

Yep dont need to post a public review you are 100% right.  I dont have to say anything derogatory either. I bought a car, it had a PPI.. the test drive did not find a serious gearbox flaw.  

Customer service is an interesting beast -  I dont think you know how good a businesses customer service really is until there is an issue, and how that issue is handled. For example if they even said 'well sorry Amanda, that is unfortunate but we just didnt see this erorr - how about we refund the PPI cost'   I'd have appreciated that.  

What I will say though is  guys like Chris at Weissach and Darren at Auto Coupe are really really good and make up for a bad experience!  Both of these guys are so passionate about the brand and are honest and thorough in all they do.  We are lucky in Victoria to have so many great P car mechanics.

 

On 09/01/2021 at 22:46, Merv said:

I found answers to my problems with the 996 remote central locking system on this excellent  UK 'site.  They are very experienced and helpful http://www.911uk.com/viewforum.php?f=8 

One of the issues I have is the drivers door attenuator is gone and needs replacement. Thats the cause of the 'toot toot' when i lock the car with the key. Worse case it actually unlocks immedately!

So once gearbox is sorted - will get that sorted and some other stuff too!

 

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