FrankM Posted 24February, 2021 Report Share Posted 24February, 2021 General question about value of 911E as a Sportomatic What is the value of a 1969 911E 2.0L Sportomatic compared to the same car in manual? Are they more difficult to sell? P-Kay, WOKA, micknine01 and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod C Posted 24February, 2021 Report Share Posted 24February, 2021 Gorgeous car Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Kay Posted 24February, 2021 Report Share Posted 24February, 2021 I think you have just posted a for sale ad - Well done! All you need now is to alter the title and text of your thread and invite offers - Simples GusTV and tomo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted 24February, 2021 Report Share Posted 24February, 2021 wow.....LOVE IT.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summon Posted 24February, 2021 Report Share Posted 24February, 2021 10 hours ago, Frank Early Porsche said: Also, are there better ways to sell? Hi Frank, we are PFA FM's and sponsors, so hopefully nobody minds us mentioning Summon as an alternative way to sell. We are quite different from Collecting Cars - we will host inspections on your behalf, and we don't auction the car, instead we advertise your car on all the car marketplaces for sale, and manage all the enquiries for you. We have a few classic Porsche's for sale now, more details about our service is here or DM me with any questions! www.summon.com.au Gorgeous car btw! hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter John Posted 24February, 2021 Report Share Posted 24February, 2021 Spread the word (like you just did) imo CC is too immature and audience is low. It’s no BAT yet- love the concept but marketing is a numbers game. I’d be using Shannon’s before CC if CS hasn’t worked out as yet. Unless price needs to change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOKA Posted 25February, 2021 Report Share Posted 25February, 2021 Beautiful looking car.. Punt it here why not, nothing lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe_racer Posted 25February, 2021 Report Share Posted 25February, 2021 Import, Sporto, hard to price as the market is fickle. It is an amazing looking car. I saw a GT4 sit on carsales for a long while recently, and it got put on collecting cars, it then sold there under reserve. It is now back on carsales... Seems to me the best way to move a car is price it to meet the market. If you can't be bothered with tyre kickers get somewhere like porschaden to sell it for you. Also advertising here on PFA increases the amount of virtual tyre kicking but reduces the time wasting test drives and only has serious buyers hassle you...From my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Kay Posted 25February, 2021 Report Share Posted 25February, 2021 14 minutes ago, Frank Early Porsche said: However, I don't know if that's a reasonable price and am looking for feedback in this thread. I would suggest that is a areasonable price. You need to draw a line in the sand to give people a guide. If you're not in a rush, and you don't want to advertise it here, then I would suggest @Summon Good Luck! Summon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 25February, 2021 Report Share Posted 25February, 2021 beautiful condition car Frank have you entered it in concourse events? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 25February, 2021 Report Share Posted 25February, 2021 Sportos are always a tough sell. In my experience, they are normally bought almost solely on price by people trying to get into a cheap(er) 911. Occasionally, you see them sell into bigger Porsche collections “just to have one”. Its a shame, as they can be fun It looks lovely (I’m biased as I also have a Bahama yellow 69E) but sporto means it takes a decent value hit against a comparable manual (as does being imported against AU delivery but less so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 25February, 2021 Report Share Posted 25February, 2021 33 minutes ago, OBRUT said: Sportos are always a tough sell. In my experience, they are normally bought almost solely on price by people trying to get into a cheap(er) 911. Occasionally, you see them sell into bigger Porsche collections “just to have one”. Its a shame, as they can be fun It looks lovely (I’m biased as I also have a Bahama yellow 69E) but sporto means it takes a decent value hit against a comparable manual (as does being imported against AU delivery but less so). is driving a sporto as easy as driving an automatic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 25February, 2021 Report Share Posted 25February, 2021 1 hour ago, 911virgin said: is driving a sporto as easy as driving an automatic? It’s as easy as driving a manual , without the issue of using your left foot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter John Posted 25February, 2021 Report Share Posted 25February, 2021 I wouldn’t be offering test drives for such a car tbh. Need a qualified buyer- such a buyer won’t be a first timer. 2 weeks isn’t long. Longer time marketing the better. Sporto and import are against you. Price should reflect but low data is always annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter John Posted 25February, 2021 Report Share Posted 25February, 2021 I dare say at the time you bought the car it faced the same market discount so you do need to always factor that in when selling. I had a converted car once and it was lovely- paid less, sold for less and didn’t sell over night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe_racer Posted 25February, 2021 Report Share Posted 25February, 2021 There is a sporto for sale at Porschaden, has been sitting there a while. Depends on how much of a hurry you are in to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3legs Posted 26February, 2021 Report Share Posted 26February, 2021 Just thinking out loud but what if you converted your car from a Sporto to a manual and throw the Sporto in with the sale for originality. I've never done the conversion so I have no idea of the cost or complexity nor do I know your circumstances for selling it but with the price of 911E' s these days ( I had one back in the mid 80's, lovely car ) it might be worth considering if you are after a sooner rather than later sale. It's already an import ( I don't have an issue with imports, my 930 was an import ) so having the conversion is not really going to hurt it that much price wise but may make it easier to sell. No harm in doing some research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 26February, 2021 Report Share Posted 26February, 2021 @3legs The last sporto/manual conversion cost I was told about by the bloke who owned the car was around $20k 3legs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3legs Posted 26February, 2021 Report Share Posted 26February, 2021 Ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 26February, 2021 Report Share Posted 26February, 2021 14 minutes ago, LeeM said: @3legs The last sporto/manual conversion cost I was told about by the bloke who owned the car was around $20k 4 minutes ago, 3legs said: Ouch. No so bad if you can get a hold of a manual box at a reasonable price. It would be an option worth considering. LeeM and 3legs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 26February, 2021 Report Share Posted 26February, 2021 Finding a rhd manual pedal box and related parts is the hard bit at present. Sporto conversions are always a tough call. You pick up some buyers but you lose the collector/originality types (although they often aren’t import buyers anyway). Put it to auction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 27February, 2021 Report Share Posted 27February, 2021 52 minutes ago, Frank Early Porsche said: I wouldn't convert the car from sporto to manual just for the sake of the sales price. I reckon that since the car has stayed original for 50 years, I won't change that. I agree with you that auction is probably a good way to go, as it will show the interest in a Porsche with sporto. The car is very original, so I would assume that there are buyers who are looking for a very original car and won't mind the sporto. Agree 100% MR901 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 27February, 2021 Report Share Posted 27February, 2021 Frank, you have a seldom found gem there. And it looks a fuchin treat! Whilst a sporto doesn't do it for the masses there is a buyer out there for your car without a doubt and at a reasonable price. The masses also will apply the import $$$ deduction in their minds but to the right buyer it wont matter (as much). By the looks of the car it will drive and present beautifully for a vintage Porker and I think the best way to get your best dollar is consignment or similar. I know CS etc doesn't do it for you with the tyre kickers but it's a necessary hassle to put up with a private sale and will unearth a buyer when the price from each side is right. Auction will probably find a buyer at your right price but maybe not. Auction buyers don't get to PPI it, don't get to drive it, can't see it on a hoist and just hear it running and all in a limited timeframe and setting. An effective way to sell a cheap to fair car that wont stand up to the utmost scrutiny. I think present the car the best way for the gem that it is. Let a professional have the hassle of dealing with the punters, it can be PPI'ed, driven, hoisted, extensively inspected and anything else, and that will be an important handful of your cars best points, and a good salesman will clinch the $$$ for you. I'd suggest a visit to The Healey Factory and a chat with Rob. He's a top bloke and very realistic to achieve a fair to top dollar sale. He has a tremendous diverse range on the floor and looks for first class vehicles for sales. I don't know how the consignment type of sale works there but it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mik001 Posted 27February, 2021 Report Share Posted 27February, 2021 Beautifully presented car however you guys are over estimating the demand for sportos... there is none zero. import is less of an issue with this vintage. Early 100k I’m afraid Troubleshooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLD Posted 27February, 2021 Report Share Posted 27February, 2021 1 hour ago, Mik001 said: Beautifully presented car however you guys are over estimating the demand for sportos... there is none zero. import is less of an issue with this vintage. Early 100k I’m afraid I think early 100k would have people lining up. Mid to high 100s is more likely. Good shape, factory rhd, all original, good colour. your estimate of the demand for sportos is incorrect, I would buy this and wold happily own a sporto longhood. So change your estimate to 0 + 1 luzzo and Troubleshooter 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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