Mr. Ice Project air con

[Carrera86]

911 3.2 Carrera 1986 Air con overhaul

I have ordered all the bits the arrived the other day , 

I was going to have a crack at fitting it myself but it was a big enough job removing  all the old hoses , now I am thinking send it 

in to get new stuff installed  😝

anyone done it ?

Thanks 

[OZ930]

There are a few of us that have and there are threads here.  It's not that hard.  Just take your time.

[Peter M]

5 hours ago, Carrera86 said:

I was going to have a crack at fitting it myself but it was a big enough job removing  all the old hoses

I reckon you've got the worst part of the job done!

Like Brian said, just take your time and it's almost pleasurable.

 

[Coastr]

Mines in the box waiting for free time.

[Carrera86]

The instructions don’t make sense either, probably easy if you have done one before !

Be nice to find a You tube video or something showing it all 

[OZ930]

9 minutes ago, Carrera86 said:

The instructions don’t make sense either, probably easy if you have done one before !

Be nice to find a You tube video or something showing it all 

Only ever done one...

What I did was lay the kit out on the floor to get an idea of where everything goes, then instal the new parts as individual projects.

Not as overwhelming.

[Peter M]

33 minutes ago, Carrera86 said:

The instructions don’t make sense either 

Kuele/Griffith or Classic Auto Air?

[Carrera86]

2 hours ago, Peter M said:

Kuele/Griffith or Classic Auto Air?

Kuele/Griffith

 I was looking at the hose heat shield thry give you and because I have a modified exhaust,

I might have to get something made to shield the heat from pipes and Fender Condenser.

[Peter M]

Or ceramic coat the trumpet inside and out to reduce radiant heat.  I did my headers that way to protect my CoP's as I didn't have room for a heatshield.

Could you clamp the shield directly to the trumpet using a combination of metal spacers and stainless steel zip ties?

Actually here's a kit: exhaust heat shield kit, hot exhaust, cool car, heat protection, exhaust pipe protection, embossed (carbuilders.com.au)

 

 

[Carrera86]

Or perhaps this may work ?

[Coastr]

Honestly I reckon you'll be ok.  A standard car has the cat in that location, and those pump out a lot of heat.

[Carrera86]

Well Well AC is in and working a treat  but what a job my god 🤣

Very happy with it  

 

 

[Mike D'Silva]

19 hours ago, Carrera86 said:

Well Well AC is in and working a treat  but what a job my god 🤣

Very happy with it  

 

 

awesome, would like to learn more about the kit you used? 

[Carrera86]

The Stage 1 Base System Package
This package was designed during our research and study of the 911/930 air conditioning
system. Available for the 911, 912 and 930 models. We determined the key, or minimum
base line, improvements had to a) reduce the inherent refrigerant leaks, b) boost system
performance and provide c) a better margin of safety. This base package contains the
following components:
Complete barrier hose set with a low-high
pressure switch located in the hose between
the compressor and deck lid condenser. A
major source of refrigerant leaks are the older
style hoses presently in your car. Barrier
hose has an additional liner inside which
significantly reduces permeation leakage
rates. Kuehl brand barrier hoses are the
same diameter as original factory hoses
however lighter. The Kuehl hose routing
mainly follows the existing factory hose path
making installation logical; our instructions
guide you through the entire process ... from
start to finish.
Low high pressure switch automatically
helps to prevent the compressor from
operating if system pressures are too low or
too high. Low system pressures reduce the
amount of refrigerant oil circulating through
the compressor causing pre-mature wear.
Excessive High side system pressures
cause leaks, overheating, and pre-mature
compressor wear as well.
New receiver drier having R12/134a
compatible desiccant. Driers should be
replaced whenever: (a) your system has lost
its refrigerant, or you are unsure of its age,
(b) the system is suspect to excessive
moisture, © you are changing over to an
alternate refrigerant or incompatible
refrigerant oils, or (d) your compressor seized
or locked up.
Griffiths Technical Inc, 22D Lasinski Road, Franklin, New Jersey, 07416 U.S.A, Phone 800-451-7225
Alt Phone 973-209-0260 Email sales@griffiths.com Copyright 2013-2018 Griffiths Technical Inc.
The Stage 1 System Package (continued).
Complete set of O-rings (HNBR,
compatible with R134a or R12). System orings
should be replaced when ever their
connecting joint has been opened, or when
changing refrigerant or oil types.
R134a charge port adapters. Whether
you car has or has not already been
converted to R134a, we want you to start of
project ‘fresh’. Griffiths adapters are solid
steel, have their own valve cores and less
apt to fail like inexpensive aluminum types.
Refrigerant oil. When a system is
overhauled oil is lost in the process. If you
are converting from R12 to R134a
refrigerant you should be using a R134a
compatible refrigerant oil. We can provide
you with either Ester or PAG type oil. The
oil can be either poured in your compressor
or you can have it ‘injected’ your service
technician. It’s a rather simple process and
we provide details to assist you.
One of the most import yet overlooked
details is affixing a R134a conversion
sticker in the engine compartment to notify
anyone servicing the system that it has
been converted along with the type of oil
and refrigerant and their quantities.
Hose hangers for any changes in size
diameters which are not stock we supply
new hangers
Griffiths Technical Inc, 22D Lasinski Road, Franklin, New Jersey, 07416 U.S.A, Phone 800-451-7225
Alt Phone 973-209-0260 Email sales@griffiths.com Copyright 2013-2018 Griffiths Technical Inc.
The Stage 1 System Package (continued).
Adding additional condenser capacity is
crucial to providing cool comfortable a/c air
in the 911, 912 or 930 cockpit. Whether
you are using R12 or R134a, the Rearward
Kuehl Fender Condenser is the key. The
rearward fender condenser assembly,
which mounts behind the left hand rear tire,
runs in conjunction with your existing
condensers providing additional condenser
capacity which reduces refrigerant
temperatures and lowers vent temps. This
proprietary design is a simple ‘drop in’,
mounting on existing vehicle points.
Our fender condenser has been field tested
for over 12 years. There are no issues with
its location or design relative to: exhaust
systems or catalytic converters radiating
heat, tire clearance, or road debris flying
of the tire ( the height of the condenser
assembly is above the throw angle of
stones, and we include a stone guard as
well). This condenser is a well proven
product.
The rearward Kuehl fender serpentine
condenser is pre-assembled: condenser,
12" blower fan, stainless steel brackets.
Also included are all mechanical and
electrical hardware to make the installation
turn-key. And, the assembly mounts upon
existing vehicle points.
The Kuehl Installation Instructions guide
you through the each step of the process.
From removing your old components
through installing your new Kuehl upgrades,
as well as evacuation, refrigerant charging
and testing. Contains well detail written
DIY guidance along with pictorial views.
Griffiths Technical Inc, 22D Lasinski Road, Franklin, New Jersey, 07416 U.S.A, Phone 800-451-7225
Alt Phone 973-209-0260 Email sales@griffiths.com Copyright 2013-2018 Griffiths Technical Inc.
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[Coastr]

Funny this popped up .. mine is the same kit and has been in for a few months.  Went for a long drive today - temps 28 or so and lots of sun.   I had to crank the fan speed to 3 a few times and temps just held onto comfortable.  When I got home lots of water drainage from the evap - suspect I might have got a bit of icing.  But worked a champ overall.