Jason A Posted 12March, 2019 Report Share Posted 12March, 2019 7 hours ago, LeeM said: That's my problem @Tips. I really don't want to sell my AC car, as I'm too attached to it (strange for me, yet I have wanted one for over 40 years), yet it would solely be a financial decision to get into a 996. If this car was $40k, it would probably be a no brainer for me. It all depends on what you want in a car. I drove mine and Phil's 996 back to back, and yeah the 996 was easier to drive, quicker, more responsive, more comfortable etc, yet mine was more of a hand full but I felt more involved in it. They both gave me the same smile you get from a 911, yet I did think to myself mine won the 'out of 100' comparison 53 to 47. If you want a car that is probably more user friendly overall, the 996 wins that one...just I've been thinking of this every damn day since I first drove a 996, as financially it makes perfect sense to me, but the missus keeps reminding me 'Don't do it, coz you know you'll regret it and never own an older Porsche ever again'. It really is the hardest decision I've had to contemplate for many many years @LeeRip the bandaid off - just do it LeeM and Troubleshooter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 12March, 2019 Report Share Posted 12March, 2019 32 minutes ago, LeeM said: Not good mate. Waited 40 years to own an air cooled, and now looks like that's going to have to go. Trying not to, but to me it's the smartest option at the moment. Cheers for your thoughts everyone. Stay tuned for a potential for sale ad 😕 I think most people that sold their old AC car and no longer have one would have regrets, especially if it was held for a while and part of the family. Mine will be going to the grave, and then on to the kids and I expect their might be a fight for it . I'd also like a 996 or 997 but it won't be to replace the AC, I just need a bigger shed and some spare cash. I'd also like a 356, 928, 993 and a long bonnet...……..sorry, started to drift off into Porsche dreamland firstone, Rod C and Tips 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 @Stepo Oh I have a long list too, yet not being in the realms of financial stability to maintain a champagne and caviar lifestyle (which I've never had) I'll just have to be content with Adelaide water and 2 minutes noodles...and a cheaper 911 😁 I'll pass on anything else though, as it has to be flat 6 powered...and cheap 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 After several air-cooled 911's i have no regrets going water-cooled Rod C and Stepo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepo Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 34 minutes ago, LeeM said: I'll pass on anything else though, as it has to be flat 6 powered...and cheap 😁 You need to be open minded Lee, they are all beautiful P cars: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-2000/SSE-AD-2929997/?Cr=5 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-2006/SSE-AD-5654329/?Cr=8 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-356-1953/OAG-AD-16825306/?Cr=0 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-928-1987/SSE-AD-5939879/?Cr=10 Closest I could find to Black (the perfect colour) https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1997/SSE-AD-5805584/?Cr=7 http://porscheclassics.com.au/shop/1973-porsche-911-srsr/ No Black or even close in Oz 3 minutes ago, James P said: After several air-cooled 911's i have no regrets going water-cooled Minority...……………….. I've seen your cup car in the flesh, V8 924 sounds interesting James P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 3 hours ago, LeeM said: Not good mate. Waited 40 years to own an air cooled, and now looks like that's going to have to go. Trying not to, but to me it's the smartest option at the moment. Cheers for your thoughts everyone. Stay tuned for a potential for sale ad 😕 'Don't do it, coz you know you'll regret it and never own an older Porsche ever again'. A 996 is an old Porsche Lee! Just that an SC is older. 8 more years and first Coxster is a vintage car He's nearly there folks ...... LeeM and firstone 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9er Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 4 hours ago, LeeM said: Not good mate. Waited 40 years to own an air cooled, and now looks like that's going to have to go. Trying not to, but to me it's the smartest option at the moment. Cheers for your thoughts everyone. Stay tuned for a potential for sale ad 😕 You know my thoughts Lee, its not like its anything important, its a car ffs. You SWB was way cooler IMO, and you didnt lose any sleep over that. Bring on the Outlaw 996, the one at Richmonds looks like its got your name on it. LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 56 minutes ago, 9er said: You know my thoughts Lee, its not like its anything important, its a car ffs. You SWB was way cooler IMO, and you didnt lose any sleep over that. Bring on the Outlaw 996, the one at Richmonds looks like its got your name on it. Yeah I know what you mean mate. Only thing I didn't like about the SWB was that it was slow and LHD 😁 2 hours ago, Troubleshooter said: 8 more years and first Coxster is a vintage car He's nearly there folks ...... You're fkn dreamin mate 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardWarrior77 Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 Does anyone know the story behind this? Is it a member's car? https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1984-porsche-911-carrera-manual/SSE-AD-5958910/?utm_campaign=price-alert&utm_source=notification-center&utm_medium=email From memory it was advertised for $115k a week ago. Placed on hold - deposit was taken etc. etc. Now it's back on sale. What's the view on the $36k engine rebuild? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavn Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 49 minutes ago, KeyboardWarrior77 said: Does anyone know the story behind this? Is it a member's car? https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1984-porsche-911-carrera-manual/SSE-AD-5958910/?utm_campaign=price-alert&utm_source=notification-center&utm_medium=email From memory it was advertised for $115k a week ago. Placed on hold - deposit was taken etc. etc. Now it's back on sale. What's the view on the $36k engine rebuild? 36 for an engine & gearbox sounds not too outrageous, depending on what was done. I'd purchased a car that had a 31k receipt for engine only plus fuel system (street spec, no fancy rods, high compression or anything else....just standard). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tips Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 Talking to a Porsche specialist today it’s circa $20 odd for top end and if you need to split the case it talkkmg circa $30 so supports Gavin’s view. that looks very seeet and well priced considering the work done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennRob Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 On 12/03/2019 at 19:38, LeeM said: @Tips Sounds legit, as I rang the guy who seemed pretty up front about it. It hasn't been driven for a year and needs some TLC. Air needs to be regassed, keys need recoding due to flat battery (?) needs a service (his mate the mechanic has been servicing it, so no idea of its history) Original kms, though he is unaware of whether it's supposed to be 3.4 or the 3.6 as fitted or if the IMS has been done, as he bought it as it is now 5 years ago. Has original GT3 cage, a full exhaust system, air intake etc. Shame I havent got the spare cash to look into it further, as I really like it Looks like a very early 996.2, making it a 3.6. Think the first MY was 02 for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 19 hours ago, LeeM said: @Stepo Oh I have a long list too, yet not being in the realms of financial stability to maintain a champagne and caviar lifestyle (which I've never had) I'll just have to be content with Adelaide water and 2 minutes noodles...and a cheaper 911 😁 I'll pass on anything else though, as it has to be flat 6 powered...and cheap 😁 Unless you can sell one and buy two of the other not sure you’re getting as much financial bang for buck as expected. In and out costs eat up a lot of time and money, then there’s the devil you know, and a bird in the hand etcetc. For me the overall driving experience is only part of the ownership experience. There’s also the tinkering factor and ‘hey I have a cool old car’ factor. Right now a 996 would be an also car rather than an only car. It’s not old enough yet to stick out. Tips, Stepo, LeeM and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 1 hour ago, Coastr said: For me the overall driving experience is only part of the ownership experience. There’s also the tinkering factor and ‘hey I have a cool old car’ factor. Right now a 996 would be an also car rather than an only car. It’s not old enough yet to stick out. This is exactly how I'm thinking, and why it IS hard to let mine go. I waited 40 years to get an old Porsche and I do much prefer the look of an older 91. As Chris mentioned it is 'just a car', though sadly I'm a bit attached to it (it's the longest I've owned anything with an engine) Stepo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter John Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 44 minutes ago, LeeM said: This is exactly how I'm thinking, and why it IS hard to let mine go. I waited 40 years to get an old Porsche and I do much prefer the look of an older 91. As Chris mentioned it is 'just a car', though sadly I'm a bit attached to it (it's the longest I've owned anything with an engine) Here’s a question for you- how many 996’s did you look at the Hb2? No offence to owners of them, I do like them, but I didn’t look at one, cannot remember any, well maybe 2, one of a fellow member and one that was nice and tweaked. My point is that with human senses of sight, smell, touch, sound etc I think of you as the guy with the spare on the back seat, not the more refined type. Be nice of you could pawn the old jigger to buy to back one day! Good luck with the tossing and turning. LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 28 minutes ago, Peter John said: I think of you as the guy with the spare on the back seat, not the more refined type. You know me well young Jedi 😁 I can dance around comparing this to that for years (and believe me I have), yet when it comes to the final crunch it would be purely a financial decision and I'd have to live with it Peter John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 22 hours ago, James P said: After several air-cooled 911's i have no regrets going water-cooled Agreed. A few of each would be nice but for my general use if it had to be one "modern" old AC Pcar only, it's a 993 for me - or at half or 3/4 the price it's a 996 or 997 and that's value! Back to a recent post James, did you check out that $40k SC you mentioned an intention to look at weeks back? Condition? I notice it's still for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 13March, 2019 Report Share Posted 13March, 2019 1 hour ago, Peter John said: Here’s a question for you- how many 996’s did you look at the Hb2? No offence to owners of them, I do like them, but I didn’t look at one, cannot remember any, well maybe 2, one of a fellow member and one that was nice and tweaked. I ran my finger around the exhaust pipe of all of them. Coastr, Peter John and OBRUT 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James P Posted 14March, 2019 Report Share Posted 14March, 2019 12 minutes ago, Troubleshooter said: Agreed. A few of each would be nice but for my general use if it had to be one "modern" old AC Pcar only, it's a 993 for me - or at half or 3/4 the price it's a 996 or 997 and that's value! Back to a recent post James, did you check out that $40k SC you mentioned an intention to look at weeks back? Condition? I notice it's still for sale. Yes i checked out the black SC & offered him $36k max but he keeps on telling me he has an offer of $38.5k Im sure the engine needs a top end rebuild its smoky on start-up, could be major wiring issues, no fan housing or ducting or anything in the frunk just wires, oil leaks everware, gearbox a little hard to get into second, fuel system needs a total rebuild, paint has small bubbles all over it Ive lost interest & probably offered him to much $... 1 hour ago, Peter John said: Here’s a question for you- how many 996’s did you look at the Hb2? No offence to owners of them, I do like them, but I didn’t look at one, cannot remember any, well maybe 2, one of a fellow member and one that was nice and tweaked. I bet if i had taken my other 996 that was build in Weissach you would have noticed Fraz and Peter John 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadsTas Posted 14March, 2019 Report Share Posted 14March, 2019 25 minutes ago, hugh said: I ran my finger around the exhaust pipe of all of them. To each his own, whatever turns you on 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 14March, 2019 Report Share Posted 14March, 2019 20 minutes ago, James P said: Yes i checked out the black SC & offered him $36k max but he keeps on telling me he has an offer of $38.5k Im sure the engine needs a top end rebuild its smoky on start-up, could be major wiring issues, no fan housing or ducting or anything in the frunk just wires, oil leaks everware, gearbox a little hard to get into second, fuel system needs a total rebuild, paint has small bubbles all over it Ive lost interest & probably offered him to much $... Usual story then huh! Not too many "cheap" AC bargains appear. Of course there's always one like this around that price which is entry point $$$$, and then spend 40k on it over the next 3 years to have a reasonable AC. I think for cars like this with the problems needing to be attended to, the price has to be $20 - 25k to make it worthwhile as a "bargain" and then do the work yourself . Can't recall the last one I found at $25k. I guess it'd be an ok buy with a gamble for someone to finally achieve ownership without the usual $$$ needed and just spend 10k on it and drive a smokey heap. Of course getting a RWC would be very very difficult re oil leaks (unless you're mechanic has a guide dog - not many of those around in VIC these days) and once you attend to those oil leaks there goes $15k unless you're doing it yourself ..... and while you're in there James P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 14March, 2019 Report Share Posted 14March, 2019 2 hours ago, TwoHeadsTas said: To each his own, whatever turns you on 🙂 Hey, if it feels good do it. You should try it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter John Posted 14March, 2019 Report Share Posted 14March, 2019 4 hours ago, hugh said: I ran my finger around the exhaust pipe of all of them. That’s the creepiest thing I’ve heard in a while @hugh But they were probably all much cleaner than dirty ol aircooled’s. Troubleshooter, hugh and AdRock 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 14March, 2019 Report Share Posted 14March, 2019 38 minutes ago, Peter John said: That’s the creepiest thing I’ve heard in a while @hugh But they were probably all much cleaner than dirty ol aircooled’s. Except for all the IMS metal bits you get under your fingernails. Peter John and Troubleshooter 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smit2100 Posted 14March, 2019 Report Share Posted 14March, 2019 10 hours ago, Peter John said: Here’s a question for you- how many 996’s did you look at the Hb2? No offence to owners of them, I do like them, but I didn’t look at one, cannot remember any, well maybe 2, one of a fellow member and one that was nice and tweaked. My point is that with human senses of sight, smell, touch, sound etc I think of you as the guy with the spare on the back seat, not the more refined type. Be nice of you could pawn the old jigger to buy to back one day! Good luck with the tossing and turning. In terms of sense / offense, perhaps at the next hanger banger there needs to be a square up of the senses and perhaps introduce an 11.00am and 1.30pm engine rev off. Reckon your eyes would then land on more than a token two 996's. I was at a lions club car day last year and the ring of a bell at 11.00 am had a 996 ( granted it had a mezger ) with a straight through exhaust doing a lap of the play ground and stopping at the $500k plus corner and sticking it to them. Certainly got people looking. Troubleshooter and Peter John 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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