Whats for sale (in Australia ) and interesting Thread

[symsy]

1 hour ago, MFX said:

Having both the 996 and the aircooled, I can say they are a very different experience. I drove the 996 to work again this morning (as I have been driving just the AC for the last couple of weeks). The 996, is much more comfortable, and much easier to drive fast, but with that is it just a bit more boring than the old car. The new stuff is great, but to me it is nowhere near as cool as the old stuff. That goes for all cars for me. I will always admire an old muscle car, hot rod, or whatever on the street, where if a Huracan drives past it doesn't get a second glance. 

You need a 993 mate 😉  Air con that works and AC .. and best value out there 

[LeeM]

1 hour ago, MFX said:

 The 996, is much more comfortable, and much easier to drive fast, but with that is it just a bit more boring than the old car.

 That seems to be the consensus among some owners. I know a couple of guys who have owned old ones to buy newer ones, then gone back to old for the same reason...they're boring. 

 The amount I drive mine now (max 10-12 times a year) as I'm bored with it to be honest, though would a later car scratch my boredom itch? Maybe for a while, but then I'm back to square one again. Being the indecisive, procrastinating fence sitter that I am, I'll just keep what I have and clean it up a bit

 And I totally agree with the new Supercar thing. They all look the same to me and don't float my boat at all

[rafikdous]

GT2, GT3, Ferrari or even a Vernon, they are all as fast as the speed limit. Which unfortunately in our Victorian nanny state 40 or 50klms/hr in most areas. I like to drive mine slow and enjoy getting to 50klms/hr

 

[Shedpest]

19 minutes ago, LeeM said:

they're boring. 

 

What a load of crap, if you get bored in a new one your obviously not driving it hard enough or are too much of a Princess to track it.

[Fishcop]

7 hours ago, LeeM said:

 @Stephen Tinker Mate, a/c values have been questioned/debated/justified/unjustified for the past 5-6 years or so. In fact, look at any older car now and try to justify their asking prices/values compared to newer cars which do eveything much better/easier. A Datsun 1600 for 60 grand? Really? 

 As you may know, I've been on and off with selling my backdate to buy a 996, yet every time my decision not to (and I've been very close a few times) has basically come down to looks and the nostalgia of owning an old 911...and the missus in my ear saying "Don't sell it, coz you'll regret it and I'll have to listen to you whinging for twenty years!" Hate it when she's right sometimes 🙄

 To me, a 996 doesn't do things that differently to my car, apart from being more comfortable, has air cond, faster, brake and handle better. Even though I've never driven a GT3, I imagine they would feel 'similar' in architecture with similar handling characteristics to a point. Is an air cooled worth similar/more money than a GT3/GT4? My honest opinion is no, not really, and I too can't get my head around it, but that's just how it is in these times of everything old is cool...and expensive! 

 If I had the chance, I'd own both my car AND a 996, and I can say pretty easily the air cooled wouldn't get driven anywhere near as much as the other one would. Unfortunately for me, I'm quite attached to my car, and it would take a serious offer well above what I think it's 'worth' to let it go, and the the right 996 to be for sale at the right price for me to actually buy one. I have a rough idea of my cars value, and others have said its worth more some say others say less, yet everything is for sale at a price. It just depends how much a buyer is prepared to stump up for an a/c I s'pose, and if mine was worth GT3 money, it wouldn't be in my shed for very long I can assure you that 😁

I've built/owned an early hotrod 911 - it took up nearly 20 years of my life; and there is something incredibly special about them.  BUT I'm in a 996 now and wouldn't go back...  There's lots of reasons for this of course, and my reasons are different to other people's reasons.  But as a 50+ old man I am loving the comfort, driveability, access to resources (repairs) and sociability (neighbours ) of the modern 911.  Comparing them is barely apples and apples, for all intents and purpose it's a pointless argument. You'll know when you're ready to change, I did

[P-Kay]

That's why you need one of each in the shed, to satisfy the mood of the moment  

[3legs]

Geez if Lee is a princess then f@#k knows what I am because I can't keep up with the bugger through the Adelaide hills  

[mrar]

7 minutes ago, P-Kay said:

That's why you need one of each in the shed, to satisfy the mood of the moment  

Spot on.

Was thinking about adding a second watercooled special yesterday after talking with the owner. Driving back thinking about it and then pulling into the shed in the gt3 and parking behind the 930 with those hips, canned that idea instantly.

 

 

 

[Dalai]

Thank goodness we all have different tastes, otherwise we would be fighting over the same cars!

I'd love a later model car (997 the latest though) to share the garage. Everyone knows the equation for the number of cars to own is n+1. 😉 

Of course newer Porsches are faster / more comfortable than the A/C cars! Hell most modern hot hatches will be faster too,  but there is far more to ownership than just performance figures. The G - series model is the shape I drooled over as a kid so my 84 Carrera is the keeper!

[michel]

4 hours ago, MFX said:

....996, is much more comfortable, and much easier to drive fast, but with that is it just a bit more boring than the old car....... 

 

2 hours ago, LeeM said:

 That seems to be the consensus ........they're boring. 

 

You both clearly need to drive the right  type  of 996.. more mods 

[LeeM]

1 hour ago, michel said:

 

You both clearly need to drive the right  type  of 996.. more mods 

 I've driven a very well sorted one, so I know how good they can be

[Shedpest]

12 minutes ago, LeeM said:

 I've driven a very well sorted one, so I know how good they can be

So they have gone from "Boring" to "Good" now😕

[tomo]

Its still bloody hard to leave the A/C for a water cooled no matter how good or boring they are.

[P-Kay]

Back to something interesting.....

thin on the goround unfortunately - where have the 997 variants gone  

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2017-porsche-911-carrera-gts-991-auto-my18/OAG-AD-19457174/?Cr=6

 

[michel]

38 minutes ago, Shedpest said:

So they have gone from "Boring" to "Good" now😕

Taking this chat over to the cool 996 thread .

btw who amongst us wears walking socks ?

[wilburforce]

1 hour ago, tomo said:

Its still bloody hard to leave the A/C for a water cooled no matter how good or boring they are.

[LeeM]

2 hours ago, Shedpest said:

So they have gone from "Boring" to "Good" now😕

 You know what I mean smartass 😁

[tomo]

1 hour ago, wilburforce said:

Money not enough of simples

[LeeM]

5 hours ago, P-Kay said:

That's why you need one of each in the shed, to satisfy the mood of the moment  

 Owning both has been discussed with her indoors (I won't call her the finance manager, as I do whatever the hell I like), yet I don't want a loan for a car I'll rarely use. Plenty do finance toy cars, but that's too much cash for me to get a loan for.

 Anyway, enough of my indecisiveness, back onto the topic 

[MFX]

5 hours ago, michel said:

You both clearly need to drive the right  type  of 996.. more mods 

Haha, so basically what you are saying is make a 996 much louder and more uncomfortable to make it more interesting

[michel]

1 hour ago, LeeM said:

 ... , enough of my indecisiveness, back onto the topic 

May I start a thread for you ?

[LeeM]

Just now, michel said:

May I start a thread for you ?

Nah, I've had enough thanks

8 hours ago, Shedpest said:

What a load of crap, if you get bored in a new one your obviously not driving it hard enough or are too much of a Princess to track it.

 I didn't say that, the guys who sold theirs did 😁

 And I can't find a helmet big enough to allow my Princess' tiara to track my car...or afford an engine rebuild 👸😁 

[Dreamr]

2 hours ago, LeeM said:

And I can't find a helmet big enough to allow my Princess' tiara to track my car...or afford an engine rebuild 👸😁 

Don't let them bully you Lee ... I didn't and wouldn't have tracked my SC either!

I was more the arm on the window sill, bobbing the head to the tunes and loving everyone admiring the car .. oh .. and the odd sprint through the twisties. 😅

[LeeM]

21 minutes ago, Dreamr said:

Don't let them bully you Lee ... I didn't and wouldn't have tracked my SC either!

 Off a ducks back mate

I'm off to polish my Tiara for the ball this Friday night 👍

[Peter M]

This is the pick for me:

1984 Porsche 911 Carrera Manual-SSE-AD-7011681 - carsales.com.au

Nice condition, rebuilt engine and gearbox with some discreet but clever mods

The early 3.2's are light and nice to drive , this one would be a cracker.