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52 minutes ago, wangan said:

I've noticed the bonnet and engine lid don't sit right on the white car above.

Bonnet has a bigger gap on the right side and the engine lid leans more to the right side. Quite a few cars are like this. Does it mean anything like crash history, or are they just really hard to align properly? 

Here is the red one above also for reference. 

https://ibb.co/s5W3J6M

You can see the bonnet sits lower on the left side. 

Wangan,

Getting them to sit evenly is generally a matter of adjusting the rubber bump stops.  They're the two knobby round things at each end of the smile that can be adjusted up or down by turning.  Sometimes you have to cut the "thread" in the rubber stop a little longer with an angle grinder to get them to adjust down lower enough to get everything perfectly level when closed.

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Similarly with the engine lid but their stops are mounted in the lid itself.

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Like other have said already the bonnet in particularly isn't very stiff so relies on the stops being properly adjusted to get the right "sit"

One thing I love about these cars is the panel gaps.  It is also the thing that strikes me about similar era 928's, how huge the bonnet gaps are, just like my '82 Holden ute, you can see the mudguard mounting bolts!

Nowadays, all cars have perfect gaps due to better manufacturing tolerances. 

 

Hope this helps.

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35 minutes ago, Peter M said:

One thing I love about these cars is the panel gaps.  

What do you mean by that? The fact that they're not aligned properly?

The rubber adjusters you've mentioned are only for height as far as I'm aware. I've tried to adjust my bonnet with them and it only really raises and lowers the panel. In some cases the panel needs to literally be pulled to the left or right (the white one in the carsales link has a larger gap on one side).

Are you saying that even when new, these cars weren't aligned straight to begin with? I honestly would never have known. I have been using panel gaps for years to get an idea of accident history and from there have decided whether to look into it further I.e. PPI. 

Just trying to learn for myself I guess. I've seen alot of people on the forums focus on poor door gaps etc and it's kind of been pushed as a deterant. I guess that's made me more focused on panel gaps when looking to buy these early cars. I've even not bothered to look at a few, because the gaps have been pretty bad. 

Does anyone in what year tolerances were actually improved to the point that P cars did have perfect gaps? 

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1 hour ago, wangan said:

What do you mean by that? The fact that they're not aligned properly?

The rubber adjusters you've mentioned are only for height as far as I'm aware. I've tried to adjust my bonnet with them and it only really raises and lowers the panel. In some cases the panel needs to literally be pulled to the left or right (the white one in the carsales link has a larger gap on one side).

Are you saying that even when new, these cars weren't aligned straight to begin with? I honestly would never have known. I have been using panel gaps for years to get an idea of accident history and from there have decided whether to look into it further I.e. PPI. 

Just trying to learn for myself I guess. I've seen alot of people on the forums focus on poor door gaps etc and it's kind of been pushed as a deterant. I guess that's made me more focused on panel gaps when looking to buy these early cars. I've even not bothered to look at a few, because the gaps have been pretty bad. 

Does anyone in what year tolerances were actually improved to the point that P cars did have perfect gaps? 

Going back to what John said earlier, it's easy to forget just how hand built these cars were well in to the '80's.

Whilst this whole vid is worth watching if you scroll through to about 12:30 it's pretty scary ...

Factory tolerance is 3.5-4.0mm for gaps pre '73 not sure after that, HTH.

 

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2 hours ago, wangan said:

What do you mean by that? The fact that they're not aligned properly? 

LOL!  No, because they are so good compared to the other cars of that era that I grew up with!

Sorry I wasn't clearer.

I would expect they left the factory pretty perfect and as John has suggested, probably due to a lot of grunt, lead and hand file work  The fact that even the cheapest cars nowadays seem to have perfect panel joints diminishes that this was not always the way. 

I didn't really comment on panel gaps in my earlier post as I thought the boys covered that pretty well and focused on getting the frunk and engine lids level as I didn't think that had been covered adequately.

However using panel gaps as the only indicator of crash damage is a bit of a long bow as uneven gaps could be the result of a number of other more innocent things too like door sag or simply the lid isn't centred in it's opening requiring the bolts to be loosened and reset or the hinge itself "tweaked" left or right. 

Since these cars are all 30+ years old some "redistribution" of panel gaps is probably to be expected through normal use and I would not use this as the only reason to dismiss a car.

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24 minutes ago, Peter M said:

 

Since these cars are all 30+ years old some "redistribution" of panel gaps is probably to be expected through normal use and I would not use this as the only reason to dismiss a car.

nice summary 

 

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Would call this characterful or charming 

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1 hour ago, michel said:

nice summary 

 

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Would call this characterful or charming 

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I get that angle too..   Must be only on Euro cars .. not aussie delivered ones ;) 

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Like the shot of the instrument wiring....it didn’t improve

and

”sports car drivers like to shift gears themselves”

🤣

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New Listing - 996.2 Manual Coupe 

It's almost 'rare' to see one of these on the market at the moment. 

Reasonable kms - 131,000 and reasonable price $63,000

 

2004 Porsche 911 Carrera 6 Sp Manual 2d Coupe,
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/valentine/cars-vans-utes/2004-porsche-911-carrera-6-sp-manual-2d-coupe/1266887802?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_sticky

 

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47 minutes ago, luzzo said:

New Listing - 996.2 Manual Coupe 

It's almost 'rare' to see one of these on the market at the moment. 

Reasonable kms - 131,000 and reasonable price $63,000

 

2004 Porsche 911 Carrera 6 Sp Manual 2d Coupe,
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/valentine/cars-vans-utes/2004-porsche-911-carrera-6-sp-manual-2d-coupe/1266887802?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_sticky

 

Belongs to a member on here. Have had many an SMT with both him and the car ..

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1 hour ago, Dreamr said:

Belongs to a member on here. Have had many an SMT with both him and the car ..

yes thought so. Have seen that car pointed at by a constable in an unmarked 5 series who going the other way on the Putty road one Sunday, lucky he had backed off for traffic at that point   😂..

Has me thinking what's next, has he caught the C4S bug or maybe air cooled (finally) 😀

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2 hours ago, luzzo said:

New Listing - 996.2 Manual Coupe 

It's almost 'rare' to see one of these on the market at the moment. 

Reasonable kms - 131,000 and reasonable price $63,000

 

2004 Porsche 911 Carrera 6 Sp Manual 2d Coupe,
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/valentine/cars-vans-utes/2004-porsche-911-carrera-6-sp-manual-2d-coupe/1266887802?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_sticky

 

Honest car this one...

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Yes it's me, good price for a good honest car. It's been great for me, got it no PPI and only a couple of niggly problems that have been fixed. I need to attend to a garage then I will be back in again after my hoist is installed and room for 4 cars, giddy up. I will be sad to see it go, the 996 is still the best bang for buck 911 I think.

 It's a shithouse ad, I just wanted to see if there was any interest on it. 

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7 hours ago, luzzo said:

New Listing - 996.2 Manual Coupe 

It's almost 'rare' to see one of these on the market at the moment. 

Reasonable kms - 131,000 and reasonable price $63,000

 

2004 Porsche 911 Carrera 6 Sp Manual 2d Coupe,
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/valentine/cars-vans-utes/2004-porsche-911-carrera-6-sp-manual-2d-coupe/1266887802?utm_source=gmail&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=android_VIP_sticky

 

I know this car and have driven it.

Well worth a look if you are in the market.  No surprises, well looked after, clean and presents very well.

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2 hours ago, TINGY996 said:

Yes it's me, good price for a good honest car.

Good work @TINGY996.  You and your car are getting lots of love here!  Good luck!

Given the shortage of cars on the market, I would guess it's a great time to sell. Hopefully your Prince with the gold awaits   👑

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22 minutes ago, TwoHeadsTas said:

Wonder if this is the car I drooled over at Duttons a couple of weeks ago?  Couldn't be too many of them in Oz I would have thought.....

 Same car mate. Think there was only 2 or 3 came to Oz, and one got written off 😥 Reckon this one was around $600k the last time it was up for sale 2-3 years ago

It doesn't get any better for me in Porsche world...unless it was a 906 of course

Edit: I read the blurb, this is the only one in Oz now

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14 hours ago, LeeM said:

I recall going to view this car last time they had it for sale. It hasn’t travelled far in those few years. 

I wish the Porsche new car configurator allowed buyers to spec a car like this. I daydream of going into a dealership with trousers down and a blank cheque and asking for one ( in Irish green). One day 🤔

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This may the one I have seen at St Ives cars n coffee several years ago, everyone was drooling over this car.

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2 hours ago, njb said:

no it's not for sale.

Why is it advertised then? Or is that an old ad I posted up? It was at Duttons recently, so I imagine that might be the case

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22 minutes ago, LeeM said:

Why is it advertised then? Or is that an old ad I posted up? It was at Duttons recently, so I imagine that might be the case

Maybe it's their previous advertisement which is still published on the web but has had links removed?  I was wondering as it's not listed on their cars for sale page which leads ,me to think maybe it's a dead page that hasn't been removed, rather just the link on the "for sale page" has been removed.

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6 hours ago, Carrera28 said:

Maybe it's their previous advertisement which is still published on the web but has had links removed? 

Correct it’s an old add it was sold a few years back. The one in Duttons this week was back for display, part of their own collection I’m told.

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