cafe_racer Posted 9November, 2021 Report Share Posted 9November, 2021 track hack - will be interesting to see what it goes for. https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1976-porsche-911?utm_medium=email&utm_source=transactional&utm_campaign=alert_v2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69Model Posted 9November, 2021 Report Share Posted 9November, 2021 Auction ended. Unsold. $93k was the highest bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBRUT Posted 9November, 2021 Report Share Posted 9November, 2021 12 hours ago, 69Model said: Auction ended. Unsold. $93k was the highest bid. Interesting. The site is calling it sold at 93 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDW911 Posted 9November, 2021 Report Share Posted 9November, 2021 On 08/11/2021 at 09:15, hugh said: Money can't buy taste unfortunately, although some people try way too hard to make it so. Hopefully the car finds a home, the market for cars like this is diminishing though. Great sum of quality parts in this build, poor colour choice and the execution isn’t cohesive. Could have been great but a bit of a mismatch in my opinion. And the price, which has now gone up 5k. hugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_booost Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 5 hours ago, OBRUT said: Interesting. The site is calling it sold at 93 now. Having recently run a car through CC - its how they operate. They give the Buyer and Seller a few phone calls to get the deal done...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 17 minutes ago, on_booost said: Having recently run a car through CC - its how they operate. They give the Buyer and Seller a few phone calls to get the deal done...... Smart business imo. 4 hours ago, TDW911 said: And the price, which has now gone up 5k. Probably noticed we're discussing it here - that always bumps the price, even when the feedback is mixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twro Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 1 hour ago, on_booost said: Having recently run a car through CC - its how they operate. They give the Buyer and Seller a few phone calls to get the deal done...... Does that mean the site might show the highest bid ($93k) but the actual sale price was less after negotiation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond911 Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 5 minutes ago, twro said: Does that mean the site might show the highest bid ($93k) but the actual sale price was less after negotiation? I doubt it. My read is $93K would be below seller reserve and CC would need to influence seller down, buyer up or meet somewhere in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asyd Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 3 minutes ago, Diamond911 said: I doubt it. My read is $93K would be below seller reserve and CC would need to influence seller down, buyer up or meet somewhere in the middle. The site shows the sale price was at 96k however it passed in at 93. Who knows , as the questions section had queries about some possible dummy bidding along the way. Followed by a bidder changing their handle.........not good if your “buying the seller “ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLD Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 1 hour ago, Asyd said: The site shows the sale price was at 96k however it passed in at 93. Who knows , as the questions section had queries about some possible dummy bidding along the way. Followed by a bidder changing their handle.........not good if your “buying the seller “ I don't see myself ever buying from one of these sites. There's a complete lack of transparency. You don't know if there is a reserve, you don't know if the reserve is met, and they all seem to end up unsold until negotiations afterwards. Not a very good buying process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe_racer Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 I have bought and sold from trading garage and had a great experience on both ends. It was a newer car so I guess less risk re: condition. I’d find it a bit harder to buy a classic car sight unseen, but you can always inspect them before bidding if you can be arsed. 1 hour ago, Asyd said: The site shows the sale price was at 96k however it passed in at 93. Who knows , as the questions section had queries about some possible dummy bidding along the way. Followed by a bidder changing their handle.........not good if your “buying the seller “ And that was odd that the seller name was bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theplanner Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 9 minutes ago, cafe_racer said: I have bought and sold from trading garage and had a great experience on both ends. It was a newer car so I guess less risk re: condition. I’d find it a bit harder to buy a classic car sight unseen, but you can always inspect them before bidding if you can be arsed. And that was odd that the seller name was bidding. Wasn't the sellers name, he must have created another account and bid on it then accidently answered a potential buyers question using the other account thus was caught out then removed from the bids altogether. I guess thats CC policing the process. I have sold a car on CC and have no issues, and would buy a car from their auction site. I guess everyone's risk tolerance is different, an analogy is some wouldnt touch cryptocurrency yet others who have, some have profit handsomely. But I definitely wouldn't say it is not good buying process. In fact, I think the opposite and I applaud them for being transparent on the final price. At least there is a site we can go to seek historical pricing as a benchmark. Sorry this last paragraph is responding to JLD's comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLD Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 46 minutes ago, theplanner said: Wasn't the sellers name, he must have created another account and bid on it then accidently answered a potential buyers question using the other account thus was caught out then removed from the bids altogether. I guess thats CC policing the process. I have sold a car on CC and have no issues, and would buy a car from their auction site. I guess everyone's risk tolerance is different, an analogy is some wouldnt touch cryptocurrency yet others who have, some have profit handsomely. But I definitely wouldn't say it is not good buying process. In fact, I think the opposite and I applaud them for being transparent on the final price. At least there is a site we can go to seek historical pricing as a benchmark. Sorry this last paragraph is responding to JLD's comment. I like to know whether my bid is a buying bid. The hidden reserve or no reserve makes it feel like a fishing expedition for the seller. Bidding doesn't go crazy? He doesn't have to sell. He can just put a ridiculous reserve and then negotiate with the highest bidder. If no sale, then no cost. So no risk for the seller. Meanwhile, the buyer could be wasting time on a car that he'll never buy... Just the way I see it. I'd feel more comfortable buying if there was a 'Reserve not met' notification when you bid until a 'Reserve met' notification when it hits. This way you know whether you're bidding to buy. Currently the listings make no mention of a reserve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 I think, but I may be wrong, when a CC car hits reserve a ‘No Reserve’ banner appears. I was keeping an eye on a recently sold aero kitted 996 tipper that only showed the ‘No Reserve’ banner when it reached 50k, it then sold for 52k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_booost Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 So from my experience - this is how it worked.... and to summarise many of the above comments: 5 hours ago, sleazius said: Smart business imo. Agreed. 4 hours ago, twro said: Does that mean the site might show the highest bid ($93k) but the actual sale price was less after negotiation? Yes - potentially. The price could be more too.... if they were able to get the buyer up. In my particular case - they were so far away from my reserve (ended up getting a lot more later on) i felt the bidders weren't serious. @theplanner and @JLD - its the same process with BAT - they encourage interaction (which is a good thing i think) between the bidders and the seller - Making it easy for bidders to ask questions and in turn allowing them to "buy the seller" a little bit? @DT is correct - it gets flagged with "Reserve Met" or "No Reserve" iirc. Saying all of the above - it should end up a true market price - however with the segmentation going on in AU - its actually making things worse...... Prices are all over the place..... And it does depend on your appetite for risk. BTW - Seller has to pay for professional photography, so there is a cost if not serious.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafe_racer Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1976-porsche-911-carrera-manual/OAG-AD-20299108/?Cr=13 seems to be priced like its a highly original low k's example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sov Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 Good lord ... https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2001-porsche-911-996-carrera-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadsTas Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 19 minutes ago, the_sovereign_man said: Good lord ... https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/2001-porsche-911-996-carrera-1 Bloody awful!!! Hilux Grey is preferable to that I'm afraid.... I'd guess $45k tops???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ber914 Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 3 hours ago, cafe_racer said: https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/1976-porsche-911-carrera-manual/OAG-AD-20299108/?Cr=13 seems to be priced like its a highly original low k's example. With those doors trims and door hardware and near 300 000 km's on the odo? Maybe a re trimmed ex race or track car lurking under there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnell Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 Speaking of CC. Did anyone see this one sell? https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1987-porsche-911-carrera-3-2-targa Seems bloody cheap for a factory RHD 3.2 G50 even if it was UK delivered. Can anyone hazard a guess why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 4 hours ago, Schnell said: Speaking of CC. Did anyone see this one sell? https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1987-porsche-911-carrera-3-2-targa Seems bloody cheap for a factory RHD 3.2 G50 even if it was UK delivered. Can anyone hazard a guess why? Probably a reflection on the desirability of the car when you need a quick sale. Just because everything with a 911 badge has gone up on paper, doesn’t mean that everything is equally desirable. Put this on carsales and wait 6 months and you get more money, but not everyone can wait or stand the hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnell Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 2 hours ago, sleazius said: Probably a reflection on the desirability of the car when you need a quick sale. Just because everything with a 911 badge has gone up on paper, doesn’t mean that everything is equally desirable. Put this on carsales and wait 6 months and you get more money, but not everyone can wait or stand the hassle. There was an extremely similar sporto on there a few weeks before and I must have brushed over this thinking it was that. Kicking myself as I would absolutely have had a bid. but it does mean that they’re out there at a decent price still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipk Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 7 hours ago, Schnell said: Speaking of CC. Did anyone see this one sell? https://collectingcars.com/for-sale/1987-porsche-911-carrera-3-2-targa Seems bloody cheap for a factory RHD 3.2 G50 even if it was UK delivered. Can anyone hazard a guess why? The site is saying $78,100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 https://autohaushamilton.com.au/porsche-sales/porsches-for-sale anyone after a 993 turbo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schnell Posted 10November, 2021 Report Share Posted 10November, 2021 1 hour ago, philipk said: The site is saying $78,100 Yeah, which is about half what I would expect a 3.2 G50 in guards red to sell for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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