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1 hour ago, on_booost said:

As the Porsche "World" (sorry ... had to 😂) has grown to include BMW style owners and non enthusiasts 

ouch!

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Hell. I think I'm in strife here.

  • I own a BMW (does that make me "BMW-like"?)
  • I don't track my GT3. 
  • I have a busy work and family life, and am lucky enough to have a couple of 'Sunday cars' to choose from, so I don't get to drive it that much, but when I do get to go for a spirited drive through the Adelaide hills and surrounds,  i cherish every second of it.
  • As a result, the kms traveled showing on my odometer are not rising as fast as apparently they should be.
  • I like cleaning and polishing my GT3, staring at it's beautiful lines and stance in the garage, and always look back at it lovingly when I park it somewhere.
  • I'm a repeat offender - in an earlier life, I treated my 3.2 Carrera the same.
  • I bought a GT car in the hope that I could drive an amazing (boy-hood dream) car, in the knowledge that it would perhaps appreciate instead of depreciate during my period of ownership.
  • I would love to leave this car to my son one day.

I guess I'm part of the problem..... 

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39 minutes ago, cafe_racer said:

ouch!

Don't worry  - I used to own an e30 - I fit that mould too!!

@Rick V

Not at all mate - I fit many (see above - actually a lot) of these categories as well - we might be mates in real life!! 

  1. I had an e30, What. A. Car.
  2. I don't track My 997.
  3. I too am busy with life and am fortunate enough to have too (!) many cars and bikes to choose from to drive - ergo the klms do not seem to be going up.
  4. I too like a nice clean car and garage. Its therapeutic for me.
  5. I still even treat my daily drive as a "nice" car. Always have. Always will.
  6. I bought my 997 because i loved it. Simple. The fact that its gone up means squat to me - I aint selling.

I actually don't believe there is "problem" per se - Its the reality of todays market - which can go up or dow.

Life is too short....

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The reason my km aren’t rising is I’m just coming out of the time sink that is having 4 young kids. Once upon a time I use to daily my 997, that all changed when I hit 3 kids. KM have stalled at 40k, buying more weekend cars has only made the ‘problem’ worse.

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2 hours ago, Rick V said:

Hell. I think I'm in strife here.

  • I own a BMW (does that make me "BMW-like"?)
  • I don't track my GT3. 
  • I have a busy work and family life, and am lucky enough to have a couple of 'Sunday cars' to choose from, so I don't get to drive it that much, but when I do get to go for a spirited drive through the Adelaide hills and surrounds,  i cherish every second of it.
  • As a result, the kms traveled showing on my odometer are not rising as fast as apparently they should be.
  • I like cleaning and polishing my GT3, staring at it's beautiful lines and stance in the garage, and always look back at it lovingly when I park it somewhere.
  • I'm a repeat offender - in an earlier life, I treated my 3.2 Carrera the same.
  • I bought a GT car in the hope that I could drive an amazing (boy-hood dream) car, in the knowledge that it would perhaps appreciate instead of depreciate during my period of ownership.
  • I would love to leave this car to my son one day.

I guess I'm part of the problem..... 

You need to sell me your GT3 (cheap)

I can treat it like they want.😁

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4 hours ago, on_booost said:

The ONLY reason a 3.6 964 Turbo is worth so much is because there were EFFFF all built. Ever driven one? A 993 is soooo much nicer. Doesn't change the COST of the 964 ( see what i did there cost - not VALUE) Porsche almost collapsed in 1991.

"Ever driven one?" Ever owned both? I do. On most days I prefer my 964T 3.6 over my 993TT. The preference often changes but usually goes 964T > 964C2 > 993RS > 993TT. And my 993tt is an absolute mint example. I think it's just personal preference, and also a lot of it is up to picking the 'right car, for the right day, and the right mood'.

What does annoy me though is your BMW statement, I love Porsches but the N/A M cars are absolutely awesome to drive - I have a few M3s across the generations and quite often prefer them for their fun tail-happy nature, especially my little E36. Having significantly less tyre drone/noise is also a welcome plus when you live in the country.

But back on topic, I find the increasing values a disappointing aspect of the hobby, definitely not a plus, as it seems to be encouraging people to hoard and treat these cars as investments. This just shuts out other people from buying, consuming, enjoying, driving the hell out of them. I enquired recently on a manual Ferrari but killed it when I realised the seller was a company that promotes and operates in holding enthusiast cars as an alternative equity investment fund.

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47 minutes ago, njb said:

"Ever driven one?" Ever owned both? I do. On most days I prefer my 964T 3.6 over my 993TT. The preference often changes but usually goes 964T > 964C2 > 993RS > 993TT. And my 993tt is an absolute mint example. I think it's just personal preference, and also a lot of it is up to picking the 'right car, for the right day, and the right mood'.

What does annoy me though is your BMW statement, I love Porsches but the N/A M cars are absolutely awesome to drive - I have a few M3s across the generations and quite often prefer them for their fun tail-happy nature, especially my little E36. Having significantly less tyre drone/noise is also a welcome plus when you live in the country.

But back on topic, I find the increasing values a disappointing aspect of the hobby, definitely not a plus, as it seems to be encouraging people to hoard and treat these cars as investments. This just shuts out other people from buying, consuming, enjoying, driving the hell out of them. I enquired recently on a manual Ferrari but killed it when I realised the seller was a company that promotes and operates in holding enthusiast cars as an alternative equity investment fund.

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Sounds like you have an amazing collection 

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You should buy and liberate the Ferrari !  Run up some big miles in it- that seems to be against the Ferrari grain.

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9 hours ago, Coastr said:

You should buy and liberate the Ferrari !  Run up some big miles in it- that seems to be against the Ferrari grain.

Definitely tempted to do that!

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18 minutes ago, njb said:

Yes I had a thing with cars for a time20210118_185251.jpg

RS 4.0? 🤭

 

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29 minutes ago, njb said:

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As long as the Fendt is not being used to move the cars around. 😳

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4 hours ago, Rick V said:

 

I guess I'm part of the problem..... 

 I'll do you a favour to rid you of the ridicule you're obviously facing Rick, and collect your car tomorrow afternoon

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29 minutes ago, LeeM said:

 I'll do you a favour to rid you of the ridicule you're obviously facing Rick, and collect your car tomorrow afternoon

What a guy, @LeeM….. always there to lend a helping hand to his fellow PFA’ers in need. 👍

Straight swap for the van?!?

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33 minutes ago, Rick V said:

What a guy, @LeeM….. always there to lend a helping hand to his fellow PFA’ers in need. 👍

Straight swap for the van?!?

 Just trying to do my bit for humanity mate 👍

 The van? Ooh jeez I dunno. I just washed it and WD40'd the tyres! 

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10 hours ago, LeeM said:

 Just trying to do my bit for humanity mate 👍

 The van? Ooh jeez I dunno. I just washed it and WD40'd the tyres! 

WD40 for the slip angle on roundabouts😉

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43 minutes ago, njb said:

Nice 928 GTS coming up for auction: https://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/2022-shannons-summer-timed-online-auction/KAE9R83340YO2A6G/ 

My fiancé has been looking for one of these for a long time, I'm guessing there'll be a fair amount of competition.

I’m not in the market at all .. but if I was, this would be one I’d fight for.  :wub:

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19 hours ago, sleazius said:

.... is having 4 young kids....

When she taps you on the shoulder in the morning, afternoon or evening, you need to say 'no' and show some self restraint.

And when she asks why tell her it's for the kilometers on the cars. She'll understand that for sure.

Good grief Charlie Brown it's not that complicated.

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5 hours ago, 9er said:

Thread has gone way off track.

It’s like the matrix.  It has to devolve into a mess so that it can come back into balance.

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5 hours ago, njb said:

Nice 928 GTS coming up for auction: https://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/2022-shannons-summer-timed-online-auction/KAE9R83340YO2A6G/ 

My fiancé has been looking for one of these for a long time, I'm guessing there'll be a fair amount of competition.

That'll push the market. Very nice.

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