Porsche Targa Tasmania Tour

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I'm far more worried about that Mk1 Escort in background, a much harder car to replace. It looks like a BDA.

[Airhead]

So all this happened on the 'TOUR' right?

[Russ]

yep, and then the leader of the real event crashed in the same spot due to fluid on the road

[Airhead]

Oh dear.

Tell the guy in the red 944 that I’ve got one already fitted a roll cage etc ready to go with his bits for a price.

[Ten Degrees]

So all this happened on the 'TOUR' right?

 

No, the 944 was part of the "Shannons Classic Outright" and I'm guessing so was the Escort.  It was only the 991 that was part of the tour.

 

I just looked at the GoPro footage from my car and that corner was slowish. There was definitely something on part of the road. 

[Quozl]

From what I was told by people competing in Modern who gave me the image that I passed onto Russ, the Porsche went off in the tour dropping fluid as it did either as a result of or because something failed and caused the spillage and off. Saying that something was already on the road is rubbish as the zero car had driven through at speed and reported NO FLUID on the stage, that is what the zero car is there for and then the Tour goes next on stage so how was there fluid on the road.

 

Then no warning triangles were put out by him, or waved warning to following actual competitors that fluid was down causing the following actual competitors to come off including YT who was the current leader of the rally.

 

Now this is from people who were in the event who were directly affected so take it as you want.

 

My main comment would be WTF was he thinking, he's in the tour and in the Tour you're supposed to stay at the maximum posted ROAD speed.

 

You're not in the rally you're on a tour and also talking race strategy in the bar on the boat on the way over only makes you look like an idiot in front of the real competitors listening to you.

 

I know allot here may not like my comments but frankly it's these kind of things that cause events like this to be cancelled and directly effect the sport I compete in.

 

Cheers Al

[GC9911]

From what I was told by people competing in Modern, the Porsche went off in the tour dropping fluid as it did either as a result of or because something failed and caused the spillage and off. Saying that something was already on the road is rubbish as the zero car had driven through at speed and reported NO FLUID on the stage, that is what the zero car is there for and then the Tour goes so how was there fluid on the road.

 

Then no warning triangles were put out by him, or waved warning to following actual competitors that fluid was down causing the following actual competitors to come off including YT who was the current leader of the rally.

 

Now this is from people who were in the event who were directly affected so take it as you want.

 

My main comment would be WTF was he thinking, he's in the tour and in the Tour you're supposed to stay at the maximum posted ROAD speed.

 

Your not in the rally your on a tour and talking race strategy in the bar on the boat on the way over only makes you look like an idiot in front of the real competitors listening to you.

 

I know allot here may not like my comments but frankly it's these kind of things that cause events like this to be cancelled and directly affect the sport I compete in.

 

Cheers Al

The first 3 cars in the tour pack went through the corner ok immediately before the guy who went off & I was literally the next car in the pack, a couple of hundred meters (at most) behind at the same speed followed by the other 12 cars in the tour, we all went through ok. If he dropped fluid then I was the first one to drive through it & I didn't have any issues nor did the 12 cars behind me. I still maintain it was the line taken through the corner & yes there could have been something on the road but it was not across the whole road. Note, it was very, very wet & the tour group had backed right off, well within the driving conditions. The guy didnt put triangles out as he & his navigator struggled to get out of the car, it being on its side & 5mtrs below the road level down a muddy embankment, the tour drove straight past as you couldnt see them down the bank & there were no skid marks or tracks indicating anyone had gone off, they were spotted by the tour sweep car that was a Cayenne as they were seated much higher than the 911's & able to see down the embankment as they drove past.

The cars down the embankment did not come off immediately one after another, they came off at various intervals between many cars successfully making the corner, there is another car down there but it does not show in the photo.

[Quozl]

You knew there was no fluid down but you didn't even know he was off until you got to the end of the stage.

 

Okay, but I think I'll go on the info I have from officials and competitors I know who stopped at the incident and leave it at that. I'm glad they're okay but incidents like these in the tour just make it harder and harder for us to get road closures to hold proper rallies in future.

 

Anyway glad you guys had a good time, cars can be fixed, luckily he or his passenger weren't injured.

 

I'm out.....

 

Cheers Al

[GC9911]

I'm out!

[mhh]

From what I was told by people competing in Modern who gave me the image that I passed onto Russ, the Porsche went off in the tour dropping fluid as it did either as a result of or because something failed and caused the spillage and off. Saying that something was already on the road is rubbish as the zero car had driven through at speed and reported NO FLUID on the stage, that is what the zero car is there for and then the Tour goes next on stage so how was there fluid on the road.

 

Then no warning triangles were put out by him, or waved warning to following actual competitors that fluid was down causing the following actual competitors to come off including YT who was the current leader of the rally.

 

Now this is from people who were in the event who were directly affected so take it as you want.

 

My main comment would be WTF was he thinking, he's in the tour and in the Tour you're supposed to stay at the maximum posted ROAD speed.

 

You're not in the rally you're on a tour and also talking race strategy in the bar on the boat on the way over only makes you look like an idiot in front of the real competitors listening to you.

 

I know allot here may not like my comments but frankly it's these kind of things that cause events like this to be cancelled and directly effect the sport I compete in.

 

Cheers Al

 

Al, the zero Jaguar went through AFTER the tour and before the comp cars on each stage.  As Greg said, a dozen tour cars (including me) followed the car which crashed and none of them had a problem with the road either.  

 

Suggesting that the tour guys caused a problem for the following competitor cars is wrong.  

 

 

Cheers

 

Mark

[Mid mount]

Hi guys,

New to the forum but feel obliged to put my 2 cents worth in.

Firstly I would like to compliment PCA for the professional and well organised tour they conducted. The incident that occurred was an accident and there was definitely something on the road surface.

Firstly PCA took all participants to Simmons planes for evaluation. The group was then divided and control drivers were put in place ahead of each respective group to keep the participants safely within there driving abilities.

I was behind Greg on that final stage and the 4S was visible for most of the stage. it was flogging down rain and I noted from early within the stage there was crap on the road as I was getting a white haze on my windscreen that the wipers were not easily moving. As the second car through after the 4s the road was notably slippery where the 4s went off and following on beyond were the accident occurred. There had not been enough traffic through at this stage to carry the contaminant a distance beyond where it went off and therefore strongly believe it was pre-existing.

I don't believe the brand new 7000km old porsche dropped any fluids at all.

I also rated the driver of the 4s as being one of the top 3 drivers present in our group that weekend, and my evaluation isn't based on who was punting the hardest but rather how well somebody was driving.

With regards to the distane expressed for the people on tour from the racing community, a number of the drivers on tour had racing and extensive track experience. It was not a race, it was a group of enthusiasts who simply wanted to enjoy their cars in a controlled and safe environment. I don't think anybody wanted to throw $300+K of car into the weeds, let alone destroy the event.

Anybody who begrudges a group of blokes drinking at a bar having a laugh and some slap and tickle about the fun they were having or about to have is taking themselves a bit to seriously. We weren't out there competing for sheep stations, we were having some fun and it wasn't at anybody's expense.

I personally attended as I hung my coat up on motor racing last year and after selling my race car and bits and bobs I put my hard earned cash towards buying a Porsche, something I had always dreamt of parking in my garage. I'm not loaded, I am passionate about my cars and they are a brilliant machine.

I attended because I simply wanted to enjoy driving my much valued car in an environment where it could be appreciated and enjoyed.

Sounds more like tall poppy syndrome to me. To easy to slag the idiots in the "Porsche".

[mhh]

I see there will be Targa highlights on 7Mate tomorrow (Saturday) at 12:30pm.  Check your local guides. 

[Redracn]

From what I was told by people competing in Modern who gave me the image that I passed onto Russ, the Porsche went off in the tour dropping fluid as it did either as a result of or because something failed and caused the spillage and off. Saying that something was already on the road is rubbish as the zero car had driven through at speed and reported NO FLUID on the stage, that is what the zero car is there for and then the Tour goes next on stage so how was there fluid on the road.

 

Then no warning triangles were put out by him, or waved warning to following actual competitors that fluid was down causing the following actual competitors to come off including YT who was the current leader of the rally.

 

Now this is from people who were in the event who were directly affected so take it as you want.

 

My main comment would be WTF was he thinking, he's in the tour and in the Tour you're supposed to stay at the maximum posted ROAD speed.

 

You're not in the rally you're on a tour and also talking race strategy in the bar on the boat on the way over only makes you look like an idiot in front of the real competitors listening to you.

 

I know allot here may not like my comments but frankly it's these kind of things that cause events like this to be cancelled and directly effect the sport I compete in.

 

Cheers Al

I just came across this forum and also feel compelled to comment. As the second driver behind the tour lead car, with the gopro footage to prove it, the very low grip bit of road surface was present at that corner before the tour group arrived. I do not know what the reason was for the small low grip piece of road but it was very slippery along the lines of black ice.

Jumping to a conclusion without any evidence that a brand new Porsche somehow lost fluid is a very very big stretch and lacks any creditability.

The Tour is a bunch of guys and girls having a good time enjoying their cars.