OZ930 Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong ..... Shouldn't it have a 300 kph speedo ..... weren't the 260 speedos from a 3.2 Carrera?. Yep, and its showing 42000 km…... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 nicely observed Dreamr. yep all other 930's on sale at the moment do have 300kph. In theory this could have been a mistake when the dash was converted from mph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott930 Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 this is the car he is looking at guys http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=SSE-AD-3223478&Cr=0 Some other small things that are "different" to what I have seen on other 930s (i.e. not necessarily 100% accurate, just my observations).. no front fog lights no "pleating" on door cards, appear to be smooth Same with rear seats Same with front seats (also they appear to have adjustable head rests, thought should be fixed?) rear parcel tray appears to have been altered to allow for aftermarket rear sash belts, probably only had lap belts originally is that metallic paint? did they come with metallic paint? carpet in bonnet looks non original wheels obviously not original considering all that and that the VIN is correct for RHD, could it be that someone has fully "restored" it and just put wrong bumper on as they obviously were not going (or didn't know) full OEM look? eg they needed a rear bumper and got one second hand that is correct one for a 930 but didn't realise it was a USA spec bumper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 I think that car has a story to tell ..... If only you could download it from the ecu ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 luckily there is an original RHD 1983 on car sales also you can spend Sunday playing 'spot the difference' http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=SSE-AD-3198315&Cr=3 then you can use your new found expertise to knock him down in price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Ring ring, Ring Ring, hello I'm calling about the Porsche you have for sale and have a few questions regarding its history and authenticity….blah blah blah….. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 15February, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 I dont know but for the price there may be better options coming up? Just too many odd things about it, He did say previous owner spent $70k on a restoration, Speedo was changed when he got it, but he still has the orig one in miles Kms speedo when he got it had done 14500 kms Is this one in the too hard basket ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 15February, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Ring ring, Ring Ring, hello I'm calling about the Porsche you have for sale and have a few questions regarding its history and authenticity….blah blah blah….. Just saying I have spoken to him , he knows nothing about Porsche`s and he bought it from a car dealer with no history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott930 Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 I dont know but for the price there may be better options coming up? Just too many odd things about it, He did say previous owner spent $70k on a restoration Speedo was changed when he got it, but he still has the orig one in miles Kms speedo when he got it had done 14500 kms Is this one in the too hard basket ? It depends on if you want a 100% original one? if so, add minimum $20k to his price. If not, find out all the work that was done for the $70k (and when), it will probably explain the full interior trim (even thought not to original finish) and if has had respray and new bumpers (and why, crashed?), if he says $70k was spent, he probably has receipts to show this. Also,where it was from originally? if in miles might UK, HK (was mph before handover?)-difference in potential rust factor? what did the "engine reconditioning" include, etc I actually like it if you can knock him down a bit considering everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott930 Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 I have spoken to him , he knows nothing about Porsche`s and he bought it from a car dealer with no history well that makes a bit of a difference, how can he claim all the work that was done if he hasn't history/documentation of it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 15February, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Hi Scott Only receipts he has is the work he has had done $30k worth , over the 13 years he has had it i have seen all the receipts ... As i say i don`t know much about the 930 Turbo , only that i have been in one and driven one But as for what you can get for your money in them today i dont know , Just that i want a Factory RHD . I saw this one and put it out to the forum for advice , The Healey factory has one but its a conversion $79k Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 You are going to be spending $130K+ for an original Aussi RHD so be prepared to spend alot more money than this for what will be a car with much higher mileage. This will never be a museum piece, but if you are just after a seriously cool car, and don't mind a bit of 'mutt' get it mechanically checked out and if all is good, make the guy a ridiculously low offer, citing PFA as confirmation that his 'basket case' of a vehicle is 'authentically challenged' and deserves a discount. All imports seem to have very questionable low mileage on them. Been watching 930's for sale for the last 6 months and there is very rarely anything that is really desirable or perfectly authentic, so you just need to be patient and be prepared to wait (and pounce when one comes up). There are only a few colour combinations that work for me also which makes it even harder to find something. This blue one is at the Healey factory in Melbourne. I saw it a few weeks ago - properly cool car and worth a look as Healey fully check and back up their vehicles http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?R=OAG-AD-863172&Cr=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott930 Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Hi Scott Only receipts he has is the work he has had done $30k worth , over the 13 years he has had it i have seen all the receipts ... As i say i don`t know much about the 930 Turbo , only that i have been in one and driven one But as for what you can get for your money in them today i dont know , Just that i want a Factory RHD . I saw this one and put it out to the forum for advice , The Healey factory has one but its a conversion $79k Paul As suggested by others, ask Porsche for confirmation of country it was delivered in to, that will confirm either way if is RHD or LHD convert, or maybe a PPI could confirm any welds, etc that show as converted ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 15February, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 He just me a printout from Porsche Centre Adelaide , but i cant post it no matter how small i make it , file too big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 That rear bumper could then be due to a rear 'shunt' methinks, no need to replace the original unless it had been damaged. Worth a closer look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Hugh, Doesn't the ZZZ represent "rest of world"? I thought USA had different letters in place of ZZZ ..... you are indeed correct & I am drunk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 As posted above, if the original speedo is in miles, definitly not Aussie delivered .....Your main concern if it was UK delivered is the potential rust issues that they are notorius for .... you will need to tread carefully here as if it has the dreaded UK rust issues, that one for sale for $135k could start to look like a bargain ....Better you get independent advice from someone that knows what they are looking for and talking about .....Also, these imports will always be cheaper to buy and consequently, cheaper to sell later on .... don't go into it expecting to buy it cheap, then sell it for the same price as an Aussie delivered one. I'm not saying it won't rise in value like all the aircooled, just won't sell for the same premium .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 you are indeed correct & I am drunk! Thank for clearing that up hugh .....For a moment there last night, I thought I was the one that was drunk .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 15February, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Form says ................ Model year = 1983 Engine type = M93066 Gear box = G93034 Inv date = 1983-01-05 Country Equipment = C16 Great Britain Paint = 9999 Would C16 GB mean that its from Great Britain , were they all RHD from there ? Cheers Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott930 Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Form says ................ Paint = 9999 Would C16 GB mean that its from Great Britain , were they all RHD from there ? Cheers Paul Yep.. C16 is the country code for UK, and yes RHD, so appears it is original RHD, with wrong bumper added somewhere later (after crash?) I believe 9999 paint code is special colour as specified by person who originally ordered it (rather than the standard Porsche colours available at the time) http://philipraby.co.uk/porsche-country-codes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 That is therefore a UK deliverd car .... yes UK is a RHD country so if delivered new there is original RHD ....See my post above .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 15February, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Now that we over the RHD hurdle , i will get it checked by a PPI in Adelaide somewhere and go from there thanks Guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronBayChris Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Now that we over the RHD hurdle , i will get it checked by a PPI in Adelaide somewhere and go from there thanks Guys Maybe the original bumper rusted and fell off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamr Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 Maybe the original bumper rusted and fell off? Couldn't help yourself, could you Chris ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 15February, 2015 Report Share Posted 15February, 2015 firstly I will clarify that mine isn't a 930, it's an SC. As shady said, door mirrors are offset, and sometimes not relocated. Mine have been. I think the radio aerial on a lhd is on the left whereas it's on the right on a rhd. Correct me if I'm wrong here. I saw a photo only yesterday that had the booster on the left in a rhd car. Obviously a l to r conversion. Aerial is on the right for LHD. As for why US bumpers, likely that someone federalised the car for registration in the USA at some point. Lots of grey market 930s in the USA because Porsche stopped selling them there. You had to add the big bumpers, change the filler neck, add reflectors - all kinds of stuff. But if it's a RHD ... Well I don't know. Spare parts fitted would be my only guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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