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Sometimes I wonder about grinding away at honest business when you read about stuff like this.

http://gizmodo.com/the-fembots-of-ashley-madison-1726670394

If you don't know the story, Ashley Madison is a site where you are supposed to sign up for an affair.  They have run ads on TV in Australia.

anyway, someone hacked them and leaked their database and emails.  It seems as though the site was a honeypot trap for men.  You pay to join, pay to send messages and even pay to delete your profile if you get cold feet (no wonder so many people have been found out to have profiles)

However, despite the slick advertising, it seems as though there were very few real women on the site - and the company paid hourly workers tom create fake profiles, taking great care to make sure they were all unique and didn't reuse photos etc.

so a randy guy signs up, gets messages by a fake profile automatically, has to pay to respond to the messages, which of course lead to nothing because it's an automated service using a fake profile.  When the guy starts to think its a load of crock and wants out, he then has to pay to leave the system.

Massive scam, and supposed to have earnt over $100 million.  

Today we have a problem where a new employee introduced a virus which encrypted a bunch of files, and then directed anyone trying to open the files to a ransom site, where you have to pay to get the key to unlock your files.  Another scam.

So maybe I'll sit back and dream up a scam instead of trying to make an honest living.

 

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I remember reading a study someone did on this idea - why bother being honest when you could cheat your way through life.

Turned out that the gains dishonest people made were erased periodically by the "resets" needed when they were found out. i.e.: they had to do a runner and re-establish somewhere that no one knew them, and begin allover again.

So in the long run, you were better off being honest.

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it's happened to an australian business a few years ago too, they had a heap of employees that were the fake women on the site.

Cryptolocker v2 isn't very nice, but you have to go through alot of steps to get it to encrypt data, it should ring warning bells for any computer user.

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I remember reading a study someone did on this idea - why bother being honest when you could cheat your way through life.

Turned out that the gains dishonest people made were erased periodically by the "resets" needed when they were found out. i.e.: they had to do a runner and re-establish somewhere that no one knew them, and begin allover again.

So in the long run, you were better off being honest.

the owners of Ashley Madison have broken no laws (presumably) and all the marks paid with their credit cards.  I doubt they will have to re-establish themselves.  I'm sure if you were a scummy local scammer you'd have to move on, but these guys will just be at the country club talking about their 'ecommerce business' without a worry in the world.

i actually did some (legit) work for a guy who ended up trying to not pay his bills.  He seemed straight up in the beginning, but found out later he had made his money in porn spam.  Basically spamming (before filters were good at filtering it out) porn pictures with affiliate links, and got a cut each time someone clicked on one of the links.  If you google his name, there are people out there who wish him ill, but I'm sure he is living a happy life with his car collection and large house.

anyway, back to work....

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I know what your saying Coastr, at times it feels like the bad guys get all the bucks, chicks & cars getting to take it easy without having to do all that much work.  However in my job I often get to be there when it all goes shit shaped for the grubs & we get to cart them off to Jail.  That is satisfying watching them cry, bleat & grizzle. (Of course they can often afford pretty good representation which sometimes helps them out quite a bit.)

Remember you have the satisfaction of knowing that what you have has been hard won & honestly gained.  Being able to look at yourself in the mirror & know that no one is the worse of for your gains is worth a hefty price indeed.  Believe me I've seen the supposed big men fall & it's generally never pretty for them.

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Yeah converting integrity into a 993 is not an easy challenge.   You're right about living with a clear conscience though.

I guess I'm just having a bad day.  Luckily it's Friday afternoon and the prospect of a slight rest presents itself.

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Cryptolocker v2 isn't very nice, but you have to go through alot of steps to get it to encrypt data, it should ring warning bells for any computer user.

I was at a technology consulting company that got held hostage by this.  I got lots of stinkeye when I chortled with laughter.

That's punishment for not knowing your bread and butter, morons!

Also, reminds me this:

https://youtu.be/1SNxaJlicEU

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At least you can sleep well Coastr.  These kind of people do live a stressful life because they are always looking over their shoulder.  I know I enjoy going to bed without too much stress in my life. 

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the owners of Ashley Madison have broken no laws (presumably) and all the marks paid with their credit cards.  I doubt they will have to re-establish themselves.  I'm sure if you were a scummy local scammer you'd have to move on, but these guys will just be at the country club talking about their 'ecommerce business' without a worry in the world.

Maybe, but more than likely it was VC backed with a high burn rate and they won't have made that much out of it. They won't have much of a rep in those same circles for launching another startup either.

anyway, back to work....

Good call. :) 

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Don't worry, there are plenty of legit business owners that rip off contractors at every given opportunity to pay for their lavish lifestyle, yet don't bat an eyelid at causing grief by stepping on toes just so that they get paid.

 Without contractors, youre stuffed!

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Don't worry, there are plenty of legit business owners that rip off contractors at every given opportunity to pay for their lavish lifestyle, yet don't bat an eyelid at causing grief by stepping on toes just so that they get paid.

 Without contractors, youre stuffed!

Sadly I see this nearly every day in my industry. I pride myself on conducting my business in an ethical manner and completing jobs to a code of practice and within the Australian Standards. But I have a file of documents and photos of other so called service providers who continually cut corners and don't even do the basic maintenance correctly. These companies have been reported and even had videos of their shoddy work and blatant ripping off of customers posted on social media and yet nothing ever happens, they continue to trade and claim to be "Leaders in the industry"

Sadly, the saying that what goes around comes around and the notion of Karma is a complete crock.

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There not much choice really, If you die by Accident .Its whatever your hands are on at time,If you die by old age it will proberly be a bottle of pills, So things like integrity ,honesty,and love stay with you .

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Today we have a problem where a new employee introduced a virus which encrypted a bunch of files, and then directed anyone trying to open the files to a ransom site, where you have to pay to get the key to unlock your files.  Another scam.

Hey Coastr, what happened with the encrypted files? I assume you got hit the crypto virus? Might be a scam but the virus is ruthless if not taken care of properly 

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Hey Coastr, what happened with the encrypted files? I assume you got hit the crypto virus? Might be a scam but the virus is ruthless if not taken care of properly 

It was in the company dropbox account.  We suspended synching and got DropBox to rollback all the files to the day before across the whole account.  Pretty sure it's all taken care of.  Don't know the exact name of the virus, I wasn't the chump who borked it.  +1 for using DropBox as it was very easy to eliminate the problem.

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