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I have a blown Bose amp that I have not found an easy replacement of.

It is a most fibre optic system I am told .

Anyway, I was considering replacing the head unit with upgraded sound and technology, to an 8 " alpine unit with new alpine 5ch PDR Amp.

Any thoughts on the best system out there.

Ideally I want the largest screen out there that will fit in the standard Porsche opening (8") I think.

I will keep all the standard kit should I ever sell

( unlikely )

Recommendations / thoughts appreciated.

My car is a 2005 Turbo S .

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I rekon any good car audio shop should be able to fix you up, After all it dosen't  have to look like an antique for the 996 ;) 

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And I thought this was going to be a muffler thread ;)

Add a fister/fabspeed/sharkwerks, wind both windows down, open the sunroof!

Sound experience upgraded!

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I have a blown Bose amp that I have not found an easy replacement of.

It is a most fibre optic system I am told .

Anyway, I was considering replacing the head unit with upgraded sound and technology, to an 8 " alpine unit with new alpine 5ch PDR Amp.

Any thoughts on the best system out there.

Ideally I want the largest screen out there that will fit in the standard Porsche opening (8") I think.

I will keep all the standard kit should I ever sell

( unlikely )

Recommendations / thoughts appreciated.

My car is a 2005 Turbo S .

Any update on what you actually did/ where you are out

Based on my research, these two options, scored pretty highly in my book  (alpine double din unit may be an older version)

https://cai-store.com/collections/all-products/products/996-911-986-boxster-double-din-conversion-level-1

https://cai-store.com/products/porsche-996-radio-upgrade-kit-98-02

 

They also appear to have the solutions for the fibre optic system

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PORSCHE’S CLASSIC RADIO NAVIGATION SYSTEM INSTALLED AND REVIEWED

6/9/20162:41 ESTFILED TO: OPTIONSBY: LAURANCE YAP5 COMMENTS

There’s no car brand in the world that takes better care of its old-car owners than Porsche. It’s not just because the people that work there are incredibly passionate and devoted enthusiasts - but also because the company understands the profit potential in this group.

Many older Porsche have passed into the hands of enthusiastic owners happy to lavish attention, and money, on their prized possessions. We’re suckers for anything with a Porsche logo on it - whether it’s a replacement part,factory-approved “air cooled” motor oil, or, in this case, a navigation system designed specifically to give our old car new infotainment tricks, while maintaining a vintage look.

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I ordered a Porsche Classic Radio Navigation (PCRN) system from Pfaff Porsche as soon as I became aware it would become available in North America. Priced at $1,550 Canadian [we've seen it as low as $1250 in the US1?ff3=2&pub=5574640136&toolid=10001&camp] plus installation (you'll also need a couple of cables depending on your car), it is substantially pricier than any aftermarket system that features its functions - navigation, radio, Bluetooth streaming and telephone functions, and SiriusXM capability. That said, for those of of bitten by the Porsche bug, there’s something about such a system that looks like it belongs in our old Porsche’s dashboard.

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My 993’s original Alpine tape deck had been replaced a couple of times, with a functional but oh-so-aftermarket looking Sony XPlod system being the latest “upgrade.” One of Pfaff’s resident old-car techs, David Draganac, installed it quickly, replacing the head unit, routing and tucking wires for the microphone (mounted at the top of the A-pillar), GPS receiver, and media box with two USB ports and auxiliary input (tucked away in my 993’s glovebox). Installed, it looks factory, and the PCRN even includes two sets of knobs - a chrome-plated set for early 911s, and a black plastic set for later cars; you can set the system’s backlighting to white, green, or amber to match your dashboard.

Media Box installed in glove compartment

Media Box installed in glove compartment

I have to admit first impressions weren’t 100% favorable. I plugged my iPhone into the media box, set up Bluetooth (which is as easy as with any other system on the market), and hit the road - and discovered that loading my music was taking absolutely forever. Fortunately, much like the PCM systems in recent Porsches, PCRN “indexes” the content, and, depending on how many songs, podcasts, and audiobooks you have loaded, that can take a while -the first time.

After that first drive, I re-plugged my iPhone (with fresh content on it), and the interface was as snappy and responsive as you'd expect, and new content updates quickly. Even better, because of the system’s terrific integration, you can surf your playlists seamlessly. Sound quality from the system is really good - clean and clear, with the caveat that, at least on my car, a very faint whine could be heard from the speakers with the engine at high revs. Relocating the small microphone should cure this.

Familiar menu system

Familiar menu system

A FAMILIAR LOOK

If you’re familiar with the PCM 3.0/3.1 systems used in Porsches from model years 2009-2016, PCRN’s look and menus will seem familiar. The menus have been adapted to fit the tiny touchscreen, and even though the text is minuscule, the screen’s amazing resolution means it remains easy to read. In practice, it’s often easier to use the control knob than the touchscreen while driving - it’s more accurate, easy to grasp, and you don’t leave fingerprints all over the screen.

PCRN may look like PCM 3.0/3.1, but it’s actually different, something most apparent in the way the navigation system behaves. I love how it shows the street you are currently travelling on at the bottom of the screen, and the intersection you are approaching at the top of the screen. Conversely, at least in its default settings, the system can be overly intrusive with voice instructions, and even piped up every time I exceeded the speed limit. Some time with the manual helped me find a friendlier voice and dial down the verbosity.

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Cramming these features and functions into a single-DIN footprint like PCRN necessarily involves compromise; if you have bad eyesight, the brightly-lit screen with its tiny text will drive you nuts, while the GPS receiver can sometimes take a while to acquire a signal if you park indoors. Conversely, it’s amazing what Porsche has managed to pack into such a small unit. And PCRN does so with styling that fits the look and feel of our old-Porsche dashboards. It looks and feels like it was conceived and installed at the factory, and if you’re someone that actually drives your old Porsche, it adds some very useful features for the daily commute, or for long road trips.

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About the Author: Laurance Yap is director of marketing at Pfaff Automotive Partners, a multi-brand dealership group based in the Greater Toronto Area. Pfaff’s brands include Porsche, Audi, BMW, Volkswagen, Toyota, McLaren, Pagani, and Singer Vehicle Design. Learn more at www.pfaffauto.com.

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Conti hadn't released that model when I bought my Stockholm 230.  Looks good, but they usually make tyres don't they...?

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Yep, thats the Tyre company but you know the Germans.... 

Seems that its a VDO just re-branded. Seems VDO can be bought locally, I believe the only difference is the branding and blue display - still looks pretty cool

https://www.soundlabsgroup.com.au/p/VDO-CDD718UBBU-Car-Radio/VDO+CDD718UB+DAB+CD+Bluetooth+Car+Radio

 

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You'd have to go the Conti with yellow display/back lighting wouldn't you?

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You'd have to go the Conti with yellow display/back lighting wouldn't you?

Yes, that's what I am thinking

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I bought one from the Father land on eBay. Update to follow once/if it shows up. 

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You'll be ok, ze Germans stopped being tricky in '45.

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already dispatched with a DHL tracking note

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I bought one from the Father land on eBay. Update to follow once/if it shows up. 

watching with interest.

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Yep, thats the Tyre company but you know the Germans.... 

Seems that its a VDO just re-branded. Seems VDO can be bought locally, I believe the only difference is the branding and blue display - still looks pretty cool

https://www.soundlabsgroup.com.au/p/VDO-CDD718UBBU-Car-Radio/VDO+CDD718UB+DAB+CD+Bluetooth+Car+Radio

 

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Looks a lot better than P-Classic in situ....which to my eye looks all kinds of wrong in a 928.

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Ok, so the radio turned up from the German eBay seller in 1 week, more than reasonable. It wound up being $300 AUD incl. shipping costs.

The unit looks great, very happy with the finish. It has a Matt plastic feel and doesn't look too blingy for the 80s 928 interior. It was fairly easy to fit and has everything needed included in the box. 

The DAB+ works well, as do all other functions incl. Bluetooth phone connectivity and audio streaming. You can control your iPhone tracks from the unit itself. It has an external microphone that I mounted drivers side near the sun visor and also has a microphone built into the front of the unit. 

I need to check that I correctly powered up the illumination wiring - the centre screen illuminates but I think I connected the unit illumination to a non powered sauce. Regardless, the colour of the centre screen works well with the 928 interior. 

These appear to be good quality, given they are made by VDO I gather they are well put together. 

 

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@Ozvino, where did you place the DAB aerial?   Unit looks great in your car.

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Ok, so the radio turned up from the German eBay seller in 1 week, more than reasonable. It wound up being $300 AUD incl. shipping costs.

The unit looks great, very happy with the finish. It has a Matt plastic feel and doesn't look too blingy for the 80s 928 interior. It was fairly easy to fit and has everything needed included in the box. 

The DAB+ works well, as do all other functions incl. Bluetooth phone connectivity and audio streaming. You can control your iPhone tracks from the unit itself. It has an external microphone that I mounted drivers side near the sun visor and also has a microphone built into the front of the unit. 

I need to check that I correctly powered up the illumination wiring - the centre screen illuminates but I think I connected the unit illumination to a non powered sauce. Regardless, the colour of the centre screen works well with the 928 interior. 

These appear to be good quality, given they are made by VDO I gather they are well put together. 

 

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I installed the non-CD version in our previous 964. Very happy with it. If you don't like the chrome rings on the dials, the whole dial pulls off and you can unscrew the ring from the back and paint it matte black. Suited the chrome-free 964 interior.

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