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IrisBlau

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Hi all

Im looking to get a decent paint match for my blue 911. I have a growing collection of spray packs and mixed up paints. I am doing this DIY having spent the last few weeks welding up some rust spots. Its been a steep learning curve including welding and spray painting.

I have tried the paint colour on the plate, being 33P and it was too dark.

I have tried VG Auto paints and they matched by eye, they have no computer matcher. Its not quit right and it bugs me.

Anyone know a company in SYDNEY who will COMPUTER (spectrophotometer) match my paint? I will need acrylic. I have heard the latest matching machines are pretty good.

Or does anyone want to have a stab at the colour? I have also tried a can of GEMINI BLUE.

Last picture shows where I am right now. Its under fluro light so hint of purple in the original colour. And no, I haven't buffed the newly painted wing yet.

First three pictures show how much the paint can change colour in varying lights.

Cheers
Ed.

 

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Tough one to match, even for a seasoned pro.

The clear over and a shine will change the appearance again as it reflects differently.

Checker board is what you have. Most shops would blend into the next panel. I'm not saying it is the correct colour. Hard to tell in a photo and different lights.

Sorry,  not much help

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The fact that the colour is appearing to be different in various light sources means you're experiencing metamerism

As my business is colour, I can tell you whenever you experience this it usually comes down to pigment selection. Manufacturers of paints/inks/coatings etc do not all source the same pigments and this is when it is hard to match a competitive suppliers colour. The way pigment is processed can also affect its shade. 

If you know what brand of paint was used on the car, I would suggest you use paint from that manufacturer as a good start. 

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Matching colours on cars is a total PITA.  Even the same paint sprayed with a different gun set up can affect the appearance.  Especially metallic paints. Just have a look at how many new cars have mismatched panels and bumpers...same colour but painted at different times.   As mentioned above, if you can get a very close colour match, It's better to blend into the next panel to avoid chequerboard.  I was going to have one door resprayed and it was going to be almost half the car painted to blend it.  i.e. nearly the cost of getting the whole car done.  I didn't bother. 

Good luck.

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As previously mentioned matching colours, particularly metallics are exceedingly difficult. Basically the only way to do it is to blend the colour out over the adjacent panels. If you had been able to just blend in small repaired areas you could have possibly gotten away with it on one panel. I think the issue is moot though if you are going to paint it in acrylic. IMHO acrylic, not matter how much you buff it, it looks shitty. I would absolutely recommend doing it in a basecoat and 2 Pack clear. You can get isocyanate free clears now, and 2 pack looks 10x better and is 10x easier to paint than acrylic. The way i usually explain it, is with acrylic you have a very small window between, getting a dry finish and getting runs. 2 pack you have a much larger window, and it sits much nicer off the gun and just gives a better finish. 

I think if you are going to stick with acrylic, you are never going to have the same level of gloss as the rest of the car, and acrylic will always 'matt off' over time, so you will have to buff it again. At least have a look at the 2 packs, the cost isn't that much more and you are doing this to a valuable car (its not a Holden Gemini ;) ).

I love the fact that you are doing this yourself though. There is no better satisfaction than your own work.

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Thanks so much for all the helpful advice. Given the above I am not sure what my next move is. Autolac in Brookvale has a spectro machine. He has said he might be able to match it but I'm guessing it wont be anywhere near perfect, especially in acrylic. I will ask about ISO free 2pak. I also see there are some waterborne paints around now.

Ive also emailed the guys I bought it off in the UK, hoping they might know who resprayed it to find out the paint code and paint system.

I agree I could be chasing my tail here and might have to put up with a chequer board car until I get it fully resprayed.

Ed

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Have you thought about bighting the bullet and getting it done prfessionally? Seems to be you can get decent work done around Melbourne in the vacinity of $500/panel if not a lot of prep is required. Given how much these cars have increased in value it will be money well invested

Dave

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Lots of good advice here.

I would find someone that blends well and get them to do it in two pack. It's the clear over the colour that lifts it to another dimension so to speak, giving it depth.

I've not met anyone that can match well if they are working to a dollar value. Just a hint on real cost.

Good job on your own I say.

Be pleased with it until you are no longer n bite the bullet. But don't be shocked if you can still tell it's different even after done well. Since you'll know it has.

Don't wear polarized sunnies either or you will be turned off by a huge % of cars on the road.

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