Timm Posted 20June, 2018 Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 1 hour ago, ANF said: I also have a new timing belt and some good used hydraulic lifters for $20 each, these simple little lifters are about $500 each new!! I've often heard that matching used lifters to a different used camshaft is a bit of a no no...something to do with the lifter wearing in to it's cam lobe, and when transferred to a different cam lobe there's a risk of it not rotating during operation. It might be a myth....but anyhow worth consulting the experts about it to make sure (Buchanans etc) At the very least I'd do a cam/lifter break in procedure when you first start the car ie run it at 2500rpm for 20 minutes or so. Lindsey racing and 944online both offer lifter rebuild services for the 944 sohc lifters which I assume are similar to the 928 sohc lifters. They'll re -machine the top surface so that it's ready to wear in to it's new cam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 20June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 Thanks @Timm I will look into that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 20June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 20June, 2018 19 hours ago, ANF said: Second parts delivery!Not sure if these are the right ones, to replace my "cooked" ones..... Looking into this further, looks like they sent me 2 x early non forged rods!! Bloody hell, now I have some paper weights!! Grrr….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 21June, 2018 Report Share Posted 21June, 2018 1 hour ago, ANF said: Looking into this further, looks like they sent me 2 x early non forged rods!! Bloody hell, now I have some paper weights!! Grrr….. "Collector's items" Put a positive spin on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 21June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 21June, 2018 7 minutes ago, tazzieman said: "Collector's items" Put a positive spin on it! Indeed! I always did want a few cars parts nicely displayed in my home office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Kay Posted 21June, 2018 Report Share Posted 21June, 2018 +1 on the lifters as per the advice of @Timm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 21June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 21June, 2018 Thinking about the lifters, I don't see how it could be an issue as the lifter rotates while in action so in theory there should be no wear patterns distinctive to a single cam lobe?? I will still look into it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 24June, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 24June, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 9:28 AM, ANF said: Looking into this further, looks like they sent me 2 x early non forged rods!! Bloody hell, now I have some paper weights!! Grrr….. 2 x "new" rods on the way...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 10July, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 10July, 2018 Still waiting on parts to arrive and I am also ordering more as I still find stuff that is needed! Latest finding is cam lobe pitting, some say a result of low ZDDP oils. Not sure if true or not, but looking to get my cams reground now Lifters will most likely be refurbed as a new set is about $5k!! (edit, more like $7k plus!!) On the lifters, does anyone know what material they are made or are they coated? They appear to be coated and I have heard about some lightly re-linishing them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 11July, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 11July, 2018 For anyone who cares to know I believe I have found that the lifters are indeed coated. It is called Parkerized!! Look it up Scott930 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 11July, 2018 Report Share Posted 11July, 2018 That's how I go dressed to the office on those 3 deg mornings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 11July, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 11July, 2018 5 minutes ago, KGB said: That's how I go dressed to the office on those 3 deg mornings... Wouldn't know about those here in Tas!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregk Posted 22August, 2018 Report Share Posted 22August, 2018 Oh no, I have just read up on all this Adam. I hope all is going well. Cheers, Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 22August, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 22August, 2018 8 minutes ago, Gregk said: Oh no, I have just read up on all this Adam. I hope all is going well. Cheers, Greg Hey Greg, All is going, well, slowly..... waiting for engine machinist to start machining what needs machining..... has been a long slow process. All parts ready and waiting for when I get my parts back.... The waiting is frustrating...….. How is yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFX Posted 22August, 2018 Report Share Posted 22August, 2018 You think waiting is frustrating.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 28August, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 28August, 2018 On 6/21/2018 at 12:02 AM, Timm said: I've often heard that matching used lifters to a different used camshaft is a bit of a no no...something to do with the lifter wearing in to it's cam lobe, and when transferred to a different cam lobe there's a risk of it not rotating during operation. It might be a myth....but anyhow worth consulting the experts about it to make sure (Buchanans etc) At the very least I'd do a cam/lifter break in procedure when you first start the car ie run it at 2500rpm for 20 minutes or so. Lindsey racing and 944online both offer lifter rebuild services for the 944 sohc lifters which I assume are similar to the 928 sohc lifters. They'll re -machine the top surface so that it's ready to wear in to it's new cam. I have looked into this and looked at the Lindsey Racing rebuilt lifters, are you sure that they machine the lifters? As this would surely go through the coating and I cannot imagine that they re-coat them (for the price that they are offering)? I also note that they will only accept genuine Porsche lifters in exchange, nothing with the INA logo, but I though INA made all of them (the ones with the small logo being better) - all mine I think are genuine and have the small logo??! I am lighting polishing mine. Ends up being a mute point as my cams are being re-ground. Cheers 944 and 928 (2V) are the same lifter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm Posted 29August, 2018 Report Share Posted 29August, 2018 14 hours ago, ANF said: I have looked into this and looked at the Lindsey Racing rebuilt lifters, are you sure that they machine the lifters? As this would surely go through the coating and I cannot imagine that they re-coat them (for the price that they are offering)? I also note that they will only accept genuine Porsche lifters in exchange, nothing with the INA logo, but I though INA made all of them (the ones with the small logo being better) - all mine I think are genuine and have the small logo??! I am lighting polishing mine. Ends up being a mute point as my cams are being re-ground. Cheers 944 and 928 (2V) are the same lifter. I'm not 100% certain, but I do recall mine looked like had been machined. Just remember to perform a cam break in procedure when you first start it and it should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 29August, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 29August, 2018 On 7/11/2018 at 4:29 PM, ANF said: For anyone who cares to know I believe I have found that the lifters are indeed coated. It is called Parkerized!! Look it up 9 hours ago, Timm said: I'm not 100% certain, but I do recall mine looked like had been machined. Just remember to perform a cam break in procedure when you first start it and it should be fine. Maybe they just machine polished/ linished them? (see above) it is only a coating and presume not overly thick? I may find out and one of mine is pitted and I am going to see how much I can reduce by polishing it (probably wont use this one, just curious...) Yes will run them in. Pic from Linsey Racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregk Posted 10September, 2018 Report Share Posted 10September, 2018 On 8/22/2018 at 2:20 PM, ANF said: Hey Greg, All is going, well, slowly..... waiting for engine machinist to start machining what needs machining..... has been a long slow process. All parts ready and waiting for when I get my parts back.... The waiting is frustrating...….. How is yours? Hi Adam. My 928 has been running well for most of this year luckily. I saw a 928 the same colour as yours at the 70th anniversary at Cronulla on the weekend which looked fantastic. I've just bought a non running 924 turbo, so I guess I am starting over again! Best of luck. Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 10September, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 10September, 2018 43 minutes ago, Gregk said: Hi Adam. My 928 has been running well for most of this year luckily. I saw a 928 the same colour as yours at the 70th anniversary at Cronulla on the weekend which looked fantastic. I've just bought a non running 924 turbo, so I guess I am starting over again! Best of luck. Greg. Hey Greg, Yes I saw pics of that car. It won the award for best transaxle car (or something like that) Good luck on the 924. I am still very much at the mercy of my engine machinist!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D2000 Posted 11September, 2018 Report Share Posted 11September, 2018 10 hours ago, ANF said: Yes I saw pics of that car. It won the award for best transaxle car (or something like that) That was my wife’s favourite car at the show Gregk and ANF 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 11September, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 11September, 2018 1 hour ago, D2000 said: That was my wife’s favourite car at the show Impeccable taste!! D2000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 17December, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 17December, 2018 Let's try this now photo thingy!! I got the block back to take the studs out.... only progress of late, oh and my cams have been re-ground! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 17December, 2018 Report Share Posted 17December, 2018 Is that thing with the 8 big holes part of an engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 17December, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 17December, 2018 36 minutes ago, KGB said: Is that thing with the 8 big holes part of an engine? Fancy planter box!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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