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1st one is a 964 Speedster. LHD with non original engine. Jap import about 12 years ago. Been through a minor refurb, need trimming work.  Mechanicals and body are good. Owner could be interested to sell around $160k+. If I recall correctly, the last one sold in Aus went for $250k but it was a matching numbers car. They don't come up often so I have little feel of what they are well worth

 

2nd is slightly easier for me to figure out but seeking opinions anyway. '75 SC that needs Resto. Converted RHD car. Body has bubbles but not a rust bucket. Engine said to be ok but Out of the car so can't confirm, some receipts for the work included. Interior shabby. Matching numbers. I estimated this car will need anywhere from $15k to $25k to restore and put on the road. Owner wanting a figure that starts with a 4 before he even talks

 

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1st one, no idea

2nd one

A recent sale I know of. A ridgy didge RH drive 76 Hong Kong matching numbers car thats been in Oz for many years with a rebuilt engine and gearbox, new tyres, good interior, nice paint that did not require any rectification, and a bunch of new suspension parts sold for $48k (seller wanted $55k). I know of it, because I looked at it and would have sold my 912 to buy it if my car was on the road.

 I would want a guarantee that the engine was good, as 'Said to be ok' isn't enough for someone to drop $40k on a car with a 'I think the engine is ok' comment. if it was knackered, you're looking at anywhere from $10k to $25k just to rebuild it!

Personally, I wouldn't care if a car had been converted, as long as the job had been done correctly, and the car was in good condition, yet in Porsche purist land (as you well know Raf) they shun this type of behaviour

 In my uneducated opinion, I would say $30k tops, because as you mentioned, $15 to $25k resto costs adds up to what it would be realistically worth, not to mention a possible engine rebuild

Thats my 2 cents anyway

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911 "S" only adds value from 67 to 73. Just a badge after that.

the last 964 speedster sold in Australia went for $400k. Matching numbers, au delivered and sub 20000kms. They are great cars - but I'm biased being an owner. 

40k plus for a dismantled and converted project car seems like crazy talk...

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40k plus for a dismantled and converted project car seems like crazy talk...

The similar LHD one that sold to a guy in Hobart recently with 2 engines , one needing a top end , went for 6k. I told the guy that he should accept 20-25 max in a flip.

Even then , properly refreshed (engine , interior , paint) it would not turn a profit , so you'd have to make sure you could live with the colour for a few years at least.

Much much better to buy a good one to start with. 

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Hi Raf,

I am not sure that you would be able to road register a LHD 964 in Melbourne; think it has to be 30 years old and under the club rego scheme to be able to do so? I may be wrong but would be worth checking (if that is your intent and not looking at selling back OS)? Would be able to register it in WA.

Cheers

Craig

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If I had that choice, it would be speedster all the way!

Two main factors for my opinion:

1. The speedster is a complete going concern. It is also a rarer beast and to me looks real cool

2. That is way too much for an incomplete car in bits and in questionable condition

End of the day it depends on what your heart desires. If it's a rare car to enjoy or whether you are looking forward to a restoration.....

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