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Sabastian

Have you had alook at the clarks garage web site?

http://www.clarks-garage.com

look up under Garage shop manual - torsion bars -  re indexing is described.

Another mother load of info is Rennlist, check the forum questions.

Nice colour on your new ride. My car needs a rear height adjustment as well, but I have a more pressing clutch issue to sort out first.

Good luck

Brian

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4 hours ago, Sebastian 944 S2 said:

Yes I did go and see them. They said it'll be a full day of labour without a guarantee of getting it right. If I'm correct that means 8 hours = approx 1000$.

Plus the springs for the front...I might as well save alitytle longer and go coiler for full adjustability.

How much did you pay for your job?

Hi Sebastian,

Firstly congratulations on purchasing an S2 !!  They are the very pinnacle of 944 ownership ?.  The Turbo cohort will disagree vehemently but we lucky few know the truth & can sit smugly by while they race past with their little turbos whooshing & just shake our heads & have a little chuckle at their exuberance & giggly enthusiasm.....................  

but seriously............

Probably the right thing to do waiting & updating the suspension when you can afford it.  I put a new set of KONI sports (yellow) on my car not long after purchase & it made a big difference.  Coil overs would improve it no end I would assume.  You'll get lots of good advice from PFA members here on brands/ types etc.

(ps - silberblau is the absolute best colour for an S2 - well done.  All the best ones are that colour ask Ozjustin ?).

Re Buchanan's,  Bruce & Sean did a mountain of work on my car when I first purchased it.   There was lots to do as it had been maintained at a fairly basic level prior to my ownership:ph34r:.  The bill seemed high at first & more than I expected but nearly 2 years later I don't begrudge a cent spent as not ONCE has the car failed to start when I turned the key (and I drive it 60 kilometers every day).  I can happily say that the quality of the work they may perform on your car would be up there with, if not, the very best.  If you have the time & inclination to do the work yourself - well that's half the fun but if you need someone to do the work you couldn't go wrong with them.

Finally another thing I've noticed with Porsche mechanics that work on the classics is that many will give you a worst case scenario so that you can be prepared if it takes longer due to unforeseen factors.  I was pretty happy to see on my bill that the work conducted wasn't "rounded up" to the nearest half hour or hour but plainly represented by actually how long it took & billed accordingly.  I haven't been so lucky up here in Brisbane.

Happy to have a chat at some stage over the phone re the many stages of joy & despair that S2 ownership has bought me in the last few years.........

cheers.

Edited by Jason E
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5 hours ago, Sebastian 944 S2 said:

Hi,

Just bought this S2, and just joined the forum.

I"m based in Sydney east.

Anyone around here a little handy with rear torsion bar reindexing? Needs to come about 25mm lower. Spring plate adjustment won't be enough.

I'm sure this has come up a lot, but I'd prefer to pay someone privately than taking it to the shops, considering the ridiculous quotes I got.

 

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Welcome, is this Geoff's old car, looks pretty good.

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1 hour ago, TINGY944 said:

Welcome, is this Geoff's old car, looks pretty good.

yes it is. He took good care of it, and so did the previous owners. I'm super happy. But you know, we all have to give it our own little touch.:)

1 hour ago, Jason E said:

Hi Sebastian,

Firstly congratulations on purchasing an S2 !!  They are the very pinnacle of 944 ownership ?.  The Turbo cohort will disagree vehemently but we lucky few know the truth & can sit smugly by while they race past with their little turbos whooshing & just shake our heads & have a little chuckle at their exuberance & giggly enthusiasm.....................  

but seriously............

Probably the right thing to do waiting & updating the suspension when you can afford it.  I put a new set of KONI sports (yellow) on my car not long after purchase & it made a big difference.  Coil overs would improve it no end I would assume.  You'll get lots of good advice from PFA members here on brands/ types etc.

(ps - silberblau is the absolute best colour for an S2 - well done.  All the best ones are that colour ask Ozjustin ?).

Re Buchanan's,  Bruce & Sean did a mountain of work on my car when I first purchased it.   There was lots to do as it had been maintained at a fairly basic level prior to my ownership:ph34r:.  The bill seemed high at first & more than I expected but nearly 2 years later I don't begrudge a cent spent as not ONCE has the car failed to start when I turned the key (and I drive it 60 kilometers every day).  I can happily say that the quality of the work they may perform on your car would be up there with, if not, the very best.  If you have the time & inclination to do the work yourself - well that's half the fun but if you need someone to do the work you couldn't go wrong with them.

Finally another thing I've noticed with Porsche mechanics that work on the classics is that many will give you a worst case scenario so that you can be prepared if it takes longer due to unforeseen factors.  I was pretty happy to see on my bill that the work conducted wasn't "rounded up" to the nearest half hour or hour but plainly represented by actually how long it took & billed accordingly.  I haven't been so lucky up here in Brisbane.

Happy to have a chat at some stage over the phone re the many stages of joy & despair that S2 ownership has bought me in the last few years.........

cheers.

Thanks a lot for the empowering words.:)

I do have the Koni sports installed and Koni inserts at the front. It works absolutely fine. Its just an optical thing. Hence why I don't really want to spend that much money!

The car drives incredibly nice due to its great previous maintenance. The car has been with Buchanan for more than 10 years, everything is documented since new.

So therefore I was hoping for a fix at reasonable cost without loosing its purity and going all the way to coilovers. But it seems no one has much experience and at the end and the best solution will be coilovers front and back for full adjustability. A bit of a shame as its all in such great condition. But hey, worst case scenario its all reversible I think.

I hope too see you on the road one day. Thanks for the advise and the warm welcome.

cheers

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8 hours ago, Sebastian 944 S2 said:

yes it is. He took good care of it, and so did the previous owners. I'm super happy. But you know, we all have to give it our own little touch.:)

Welcome to the S2 world Sebastian.

You picked up a great car and should be very happy with the power that engine generates.  It's a true example of k's don't reflect how well she runs ;).

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Hi Sebastian,

Welcome to the Forum.

If you have any questions, then you have come to the right place.

The guys will be only to happy to help......

it's good to see that the car is going well. It is a good car, which you should be very happy with.

 

Cheers,

Geoff.

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Congratulations on your purchase and welcome to the forum Sebastian! :D

Looks like a very clean car in that colour. While Jason E is a fan, I’m sure he’ll admit one day that Stone Grey Metallic (coincidentally the colour of my S2) is the pinnacle colour for 944s. 

Re your suspension height, my recommendation would be to save up for a set of KW Variant 3 coilovers and eliminate the torsion bars alltogether. Buchanan Automotive installed a set of Koni adjustable dampers (Paragon Products Koni kit) on my S2 and reindexed the torsion bars and the car handles excellent. I have driven my car back to back against a KW V3 equipped 944 Turbo and didn’t find a lot between them. The biggest difference is in the ease of adjustment, particularly given not so many suspension shops deal with the torsion bar design these days.

Cheers

Justin

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Maybe best to skip the KW's Justin, PM me if you want some more info. The Koni kit from paragon is a great budget coil over kit, for the entry level price you can't beat it. Its good for an everyday 944 and the occasional track day 944. The Konis can handle a range of springs from around the stock 200 pound up to about 500 pound, beyond this they will need to be revalved. This kit comes from Paragon with springs

next step up from the Konis would be the old Bilstein Escort cup, they are old tech but they are sturdy units. More track orientated and a much firmer ride, can handle spring rate from around 200 up to 800 pound. The KW's fit in here as well, they are newer tech but fall short in a few areas.

The next step is when you get serious about good suspension. Motion Control Suspension (MCS), they offer both the non reservoir and reservoir shocks. from memory they are about $2700US for the non remote and $4500 for the remote. They can handle spring rates from 200 all the way up to 1500 pound. unbelievable build quality. The kit is targeted towards the racer so they are a bit short in the back, but we get them made up to suit both road cars and track cars. Personally this leaves only 2 real choices, the entry level Koni kit and the MCS kit. Springs are not included in the high range stuff so you need to but them yourself, a usual spring setup consists of 2 front main springs, 2 front tenders, 2 collars, 2 torsion release bearings and 2 rear main springs cost about $1000+au from Eibach. 

We don't sell any of this stuff its just for your information 

Regards

Sean

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Thanks for the tip Sean. I would love a set of MCS. Maybe when the Koni’s get a bit tired! ?

How comfortable are they for the road? I had a set of high end coilovers from a respected company on another car in the past and found them very jittery at low speed. I’m talking bouncing in my seat at 60kph. How do the MCS fair with decent spring rates?

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Best I've come across, of course it does come down to the springs you use. The shock is only there to control them. We have about 4 street cars with the MCS and 2 with Moton many more crossovers or full track cars running them though. I personally use Moton in our own car but our new track car will be MCS. Just a little back story the owner of MCS use to co own Moton sold out to run his own company, that why i like both of them. Moton is now owned by AST. The one thing i do love about these shocks is their range of control. Most shocks even high end ones will only have a control of about 400-500 pounds. As in the last post these are just as happy with 200 pound springs as with 1500 pound. 

Just on a different note I'm all for keeping these cars stock as well but i can't help but to recommend a coil over kit, particularly for the rear (for 1986>) to save the customer some money in the long run as reindexing the torsion bars as what Sebastian would like to do is quite labour intensive for a spring and height change. Even after reindexing what might seem like over 100 944s in my 20years as a Porsche tech you can still get it out by a mm or 2. I guess thats why Porsche gave us that eccentric on the spring plate for minor adjustments. I would also hazard a guess that 6-8 hours to do the job i wouldn't consider ridiculous that includes a rear wheel alignment. Its usually more to be honest as when your in there you will find the rubber bushes on the spring plate to be shagged, you then have the option to burn them off and replace them with rubber / polibronze or entirely new plates, add an hour or 2 if you go the aftermarket bushes route

Regards

Sean

 

 

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thanks to everyone on here for being so extremely helpful! Especially Sean from Buchanan. Your a legend mate. And I wouldn't hesitate to put a set of coilovers in there, if I could just afford it right away. I guess I just have to wait a little longer until I can do it right. ?

 

 

On 10/16/2018 at 12:07 PM, red clubbie said:

Hi Sebastian,

Welcome to the Forum.

If you have any questions, then you have come to the right place.

The guys will be only to happy to help......

it's good to see that the car is going well. It is a good car, which you should be very happy with.

 

Cheers,

Geoff.

I"m super happy with the car Geoff, thanks again!:-) but as you surely know, we all have to give it our own little touch. Until then I'm enjoying every drive very much. It's an exceptionally great car.

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Hi Guys, 

New to the forum and here to learn lots about my cars.

I have a 1979 924 and a 1980 924 Turbo. 

The 79, sits under a coat of dust in a shed and was originally bought to slowly revive back to it's original glory. That was until I purchased the Turbo model some 3 years ago. When purchased the Turbo was not bolted on, and the car spent almost 12 months sitting in the mechanics having other problems fixed. Suffice to say, lots more $$$$ were spent.I now have it home and waiting on a few more subtle fixes before I register it and have it become a "Sunday Driver". 

Anyway, like I said earlier, I look forward to reading up on all of the posts and learning more about these cars. 

Cheers,

Stats

 

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5 hours ago, stats011 said:

Hi Guys, 

New to the forum and here to learn lots about my cars.

I have a 1979 924 and a 1980 924 Turbo. 

The 79, sits under a coat of dust in a shed and was originally bought to slowly revive back to it's original glory. That was until I purchased the Turbo model some 3 years ago. When purchased the Turbo was not bolted on, and the car spent almost 12 months sitting in the mechanics having other problems fixed. Suffice to say, lots more $$$$ were spent.I now have it home and waiting on a few more subtle fixes before I register it and have it become a "Sunday Driver". 

Anyway, like I said earlier, I look forward to reading up on all of the posts and learning more about these cars. 

Cheers,

Stats

 

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Welcome ....

Nice little stable you have there ... you are in for a treat when you get the turbo registered and driving.

I also have a 1980 red 924T and it is one of the most fun cars to drive. The performance of the little 2.0 is unbelievable. 

Keep us informed of your progress and post lots of photos ... we love photos!

Once sorted, keep an eye on the forum .. Sunday drives are always on the agenda and you'd be welcome to join in on any one of them ... 

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@stats011 Welcome to the forum. Nice collection you have there. Be sure to post up some more photos as you carry out the remaining work. :D 

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Thread bump, featuring the new Italian family member! (Horrible wheels getting yanked off there as soon as we get the original Maser rims repainted)

Photo taken after somehow managing to blow through half a tub(!!) of wax on the Porsche in one go

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So shiny...

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Looks fantastic, I don't mind those Fuchs on her, congrats!

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Looking very slick floorprawn. Can’t beat a guards red 944!

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