TINGY Posted 20February, 2018 Report Share Posted 20February, 2018 On 2/16/2018 at 5:10 PM, hepkat63 said: Hey all - would some one please be able to tell me the going rate (market value) for a 944 with about 230k on the clock (rebuilt motor with receipts) - 1984/85 model. Assumptions - all straight, great paint, great interior - no issues, regularly serviced, books, manuals etc. I have just come across this thread, my first question is, why would a 944 engine need to be rebuilt after just 230,000kms. On 2/16/2018 at 7:52 PM, Jason E said: Hepkat63, What I don't know about the mechanicals of the 944 could fill the old Encyclopedia Britannica ........what I do know about the 944 is how to hemorrhage a greater amount of money into one than the GDP of Liberia............... I would have to go with Dreamer here. Lets work backwards. A reasonably well kept (post update) late model turbo or S2 will fetch the most & currently seems to be actually selling very late 20's to 30's with very good cars fetching anything up to 10k more. A good post update 2.5 or 2.7 N/A seems to be selling late teens maybe early 20's. Now from what I see there are some very flash PRE update cars in great knick for 30/40/50 that have been sitting untouched on carsales for longer than my wife's guacamole sits at a Christmas function. Similarly the pre update cars that aren't competitively priced (well down under 20) seem to linger longer deviled eggs at a Baptism (apologies to the Christians). I think a pre update has to be very good to even get a look at 20k............but then again what do I know........................ I think Jason is pretty close to the mark......................although i hate to say it On 2/16/2018 at 8:49 PM, hepkat63 said: seems to be a common theme on these 944 (and 924) that they are money pits for very little reward (apart from the obvious fun of driving one). History seems solid enough and PO was a cheque book mechanic whom bordered on the side of service paranoia. Car is definitely well sorted, clean tidy and mechanically good. High teens, early 20s seems a reasonable price then? When you say a "rebuilt engine", is this total or top end, there is a big difference in rebuild price, unless it's a one owner concourse car with less than 100,000kms on it, i wouldn't be paying overs for it. Original paint? gearbox overhaul? Torque tube overhaul? A/C? new radiator hoses and associated bits, engine bay wirirng etc etc etc, if you want to know what this stuff really costs PM @Jason E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB911 Posted 23February, 2018 Report Share Posted 23February, 2018 Now you couldn't get any greater difference between 2 of the same model cars.. Car 1 is Ned's Maroon S2 (yes it's back!) that he won't let anyone get a PPI on and has been on sale and off for years https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-944-1990/SSE-AD-3502313/?Cr=0 Car 2 is on the other end of the scale. Very nice looking S2 for $31k https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-944-1989/SSE-AD-5283726/?Cr=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason E Posted 23February, 2018 Report Share Posted 23February, 2018 1 minute ago, MB911 said: Car 1 is Ned's Maroon S2 (yes it's back!) that he won't let anyone get a PPI on and has been on sale and off for years https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-944-1990/SSE-AD-3502313/?Cr=0 I love this guy - the eternal optimist. Optimistic that he can find some poor, misbegotten fool that he can shaft with a car that obviously has some fairly major issues. Obviously he won't let it be inspected as it needs a bucket load of work. What a Bum!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red clubbie Posted 23February, 2018 Report Share Posted 23February, 2018 I know which one I would go for and it's not the maroon one..... Cheers, Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted 23February, 2018 Report Share Posted 23February, 2018 2 hours ago, MB911 said: Car 2 is on the other end of the scale. Very nice looking S2 for $31k https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-944-1989/SSE-AD-5283726/?Cr=1 Nu rush to change the timing belt - done in 1999! ANF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknine01 Posted 23February, 2018 Report Share Posted 23February, 2018 9 hours ago, Rob said: Nu rush to change the timing belt - done in 1999! Well spotted! He obviously doesn't know or care about these cars then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 24February, 2018 Report Share Posted 24February, 2018 13 hours ago, Rob said: Nu rush to change the timing belt - done in 1999! I guess it hasn't self destructed so all is ok, right? From what i have seen these belts will last a long time, maybe not the rollers etc. I will give the guy the benefit of the doubt, it may just be an old sticker left on, could be good buying if it checks out ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 24February, 2018 Report Share Posted 24February, 2018 Very big risk to drive any car with a timing belt that old! If anything like a 928 belt (which I would think it is) recommended to change every 6 or so years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 24February, 2018 Report Share Posted 24February, 2018 25 minutes ago, ANF said: Very big risk to drive any car with a timing belt that old! If anything like a 928 belt (which I would think it is) recommended to change every 6 or so years... I have an 11 year old belt in my possession which still looks new and i have seen a 996 operate on the strings of a shredded belt, these belts are very strong, sure they have a limit but don't believe all the hype, like i said earlier the rollers are more likely to fail before a belt will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted 24February, 2018 Report Share Posted 24February, 2018 Bought a very good 968 in Sydney several years ago. Drove it home with son Scott (another great bonding exercise btw) and noticed a slight tremor through the car with revs and decided the balance belt was a tooth out of time. Got home safely and ran the car for a few weeks before deciding to look at the belts and check the timing. Took the timing covers off and... no balance belt! No - there it was - in a hundred pieces in the lower timing cover... Cam belt was still there, though - but only just! a number of teeth had disappeared to half width, and some were missing completely. When I recall red-lining the car coming up Thunderbolt's Way and several other places after that, I shudder to think of what could have happened. But Tingy, the rollers were fine, but I replaced them anyway... bear924 and micknine01 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 24February, 2018 Report Share Posted 24February, 2018 Nice job Rob, that's awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB911 Posted 12March, 2018 Report Share Posted 12March, 2018 https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-944-1990/SSE-AD-4212111/?Cr=2 If only he'd drop $30k more I can put it in my garage where it belongs..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 12March, 2018 Report Share Posted 12March, 2018 6 minutes ago, MB911 said: https://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-944-1990/SSE-AD-4212111/?Cr=2 If only he'd drop $30k more I can put it in my garage where it belongs..... That car would be an absolute weapon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red clubbie Posted 12March, 2018 Report Share Posted 12March, 2018 It's been for sale for quite a while. He keeps dropping the price, but maybe not enough.... Cheers, Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 12March, 2018 Report Share Posted 12March, 2018 Is that supposed to be $20k or $200k spent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 12March, 2018 Report Share Posted 12March, 2018 That would be $200k, $20k wouldn't even cover the engine mods me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted 12March, 2018 Report Share Posted 12March, 2018 9 hours ago, TINGY944 said: That would be $200k, $20k wouldn't even cover the engine mods me thinks Probably $100k of labour in it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzJustin Posted 14March, 2018 Report Share Posted 14March, 2018 I see Vince's 944 Turbo has just been listed for sale. Some very impressive photos in the ad. Slate Grey Metallic is a stunning colour if I do say so myself (biased)! https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-944-1986/SSE-AD-5259226/?ret=search-alert&utm_source=internal-carsales-notification-centre-search-alert&utm_medium=email KG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason E Posted 14March, 2018 Report Share Posted 14March, 2018 12 minutes ago, OzJustin said: I see Vince's 944 Turbo has just been listed for sale. Some very impressive photos in the ad. Slate Grey Metallic is a stunning colour if I do say so myself (biased)! https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-944-1986/SSE-AD-5259226/?ret=search-alert&utm_source=internal-carsales-notification-centre-search-alert&utm_medium=email Nice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted 14March, 2018 Report Share Posted 14March, 2018 13 minutes ago, OzJustin said: I see Vince's 944 Turbo has just been listed for sale. Some very impressive photos in the ad. Slate Grey Metallic is a stunning colour if I do say so myself (biased)! https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-944-1986/SSE-AD-5259226/?ret=search-alert&utm_source=internal-carsales-notification-centre-search-alert&utm_medium=email Nice ad, but a hard sell at those km... Jason E 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 14March, 2018 Report Share Posted 14March, 2018 On 24/02/2018 at 5:47 PM, Rob said: Bought a very good 968 in Sydney several years ago. Drove it home with son Scott (another great bonding exercise btw) and noticed a slight tremor through the car with revs and decided the balance belt was a tooth out of time. Got home safely and ran the car for a few weeks before deciding to look at the belts and check the timing. Took the timing covers off and... no balance belt! No - there it was - in a hundred pieces in the lower timing cover... Cam belt was still there, though - but only just! a number of teeth had disappeared to half width, and some were missing completely. When I recall red-lining the car coming up Thunderbolt's Way and several other places after that, I shudder to think of what could have happened. But Tingy, the rollers were fine, but I replaced them anyway... I had one of those chewed up BS belts when I bought my elderly ownered $2k 944. The TB was crazy cracked but intact. Bullet dodged! The when and what to do is well detailed in the Clark' Garage article. I've only done ~12000k since then but it's around 6-7 years and it should have a new water pump as well as the belts in the next year. If anything goes bang, I have a 60k km spare engine sitting there No it's NFS. Rob 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear924 Posted 14March, 2018 Report Share Posted 14March, 2018 19 minutes ago, Rob said: Nice ad, but a hard sell at those km... Wow! That car has done a few kms. It seems to present well and is reasonably priced... if I was shopping for a 951 I'd be torn on the old shop on condition or kms. Especially because so many cars with low kms just had broken odometer for long periods of time. Rob and vinnytang 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timm Posted 14March, 2018 Report Share Posted 14March, 2018 43 minutes ago, Rob said: Nice ad, but a hard sell at those km... Wow that is gorgeous...my favourite colour, man I wish mine was slate grey! Personally I'm not one to be worried about high km's, as long as the car is in good nick...if anything I'd say it's proof that it's been looked after and driven, not sat in a garage and neglected for years. vinnytang and bear924 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnytang Posted 14March, 2018 Report Share Posted 14March, 2018 1 hour ago, OzJustin said: I see Vince's 944 Turbo has just been listed for sale. Some very impressive photos in the ad. Slate Grey Metallic is a stunning colour if I do say so myself (biased)! https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-944-1986/SSE-AD-5259226/?ret=search-alert&utm_source=internal-carsales-notification-centre-search-alert&utm_medium=email Hey guys, yep my car. Rushed this listing up before a work trip this evening, didn't even get a chance to post it here. Would love to keep this, but I justified the new 911 purchase to the missus by agreeing to sell some of my other toys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveF Posted 14March, 2018 Report Share Posted 14March, 2018 Very nice looking car. Best of luck with the sale. vinnytang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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