LeeM Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 Get onto Benton Performance Tom John is renowned for building the best 912 engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 (edited) I think you should just shove a VW engine in it to get it here, and then rip it out and do what you like.you beat me to it Jeff - the polo motor looks interesting but for $40k, really?you can get some decent power out of a beetle motor and a decent engine note, but let's be honest, the 912 is about cruising and looking cool - if you want to go fast T you already have that base well and truely covered.... Edited 3October, 2016 by Ozvino MFX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 I reckon all the beseeching and cajoling here will come to nought ????Plenty of options v8subietyp 4 typ 16poloemory - poloor do what they did and cut n shut a 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 3October, 2016 Author Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 The issue here boys is that there is currently no engine. The only way to get compliance is to put an original 912 engine in it or something that matches (don't ask me details, but I have been told that the POLO does). So no 6, v8 or subie etc etc. Of course I could always put any of these in afterwards, but then I am up for the cost of two engines and two installs, and none of the above are easy installs from what Autohaus have told me. Not easy = expensive.So I really have two options1. find an old 912 engine and have that installed. Just a little bit boring, but the cheaper option for sure. Just out of interest what would a old 912 engine cost? In the world of old Porsche's I am assuming very little comes for much less than $10k. Then I have the cost of rebuild and install? So $25 - $30k total? I know some here would be do this themselves (but that aint me). I will still have a 40 + year old engine with unknown mileage and dubious performance2. Polo - costs above include install from what I can tell at the moment. I dont get a fast car, but a step up 'from a regular 912 and I get a completely new engine. I paid $9k for the car so don't mind dropping a bit more for something a bit more interesting in the back. Early days yet, but the $20k premium seems ok. Mike-S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevMcRev Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 Time to revisit this thread http://porscheforum.com.au/topic/9285-ultimate-901-build/?page=1I still reckon Suby STI Spec C power! GUT and symsy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-S Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 This bloke would appear to have all the spare 912 engines in Americkyhttp://www.ebay.com/usr/dporschepartsman?_trksid=p2047675.l2559Probably worth an email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiller Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 9K for a roller 912. Bloody well done. I agree with the patina sentiments. There's something great about a classic sports car with perfect mechanicals and patina. symsy, TINGY and turboT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 The issue here boys is that there is currently no engine. The only way to get compliance is to put an original 912 engine in it or something that matches (don't ask me details, but I have been told that the POLO does). So no 6, v8 or subie etc etc. Of course I could always put any of these in afterwards, but then I am up for the cost of two engines and two installs, and none of the above are easy installs from what Autohaus have told me. Not easy = expensive.So I really have two options1. find an old 912 engine and have that installed. Just a little bit boring, but the cheaper option for sure. Just out of interest what would a old 912 engine cost? In the world of old Porsche's I am assuming very little comes for much less than $10k. Then I have the cost of rebuild and install? So $25 - $30k total? I know some here would be do this themselves (but that aint me). I will still have a 40 + year old engine with unknown mileage and dubious performance2. Polo - costs above include install from what I can tell at the moment. I dont get a fast car, but a step up 'from a regular 912 and I get a completely new engine. I paid $9k for the car so don't mind dropping a bit more for something a bit more interesting in the back. Early days yet, but the $20k premium seems ok. Get the car to Australia as it stands - little cost aside from freight. Source a local water cooled VW engine (4cl 1600cc) and get the car running and registered - minimal cost. Once on the road, the world is your oyster....you can "tweak" once the car is in your name. If you end up ditching the VW engine you can always sell it. Motor swapI would suggest if you put a $40k Polo motor in the car they will asses the improved value of the car when it comes in and you might get hit with a greater tax bill TrevMcRev and P-Kay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Kay Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 +1You've already gone through the painful process of paying the Australian government more than necessary. Get the car here as is and source or import engines locally. If you have your heart set for a monster engine(Polo), then import that separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 There used to be a clause that if you modernised the car enough they can class it as a newer car, thus negating the age of the car and making it very hard to import, not saying it will happen but look into it first (or has this rule be removed?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 Not being rude here, but why a water cooled engine? That creates a lot more work and wiring issues than installing an air cooled VW engine, which would both need chassis/engine mount modifications and need to be signed off by an engineer. Then it would be deemed as a custom engine, not to mention the engineering inspection and roadworthy headaches. Source the correct engine type and be done with it, as I think you'll have dramas with any other engine that is not period correct for the car Macca 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 There's the right way, the wrong way & the 'Outlaw' way. TrevMcRev and P-Kay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 3October, 2016 Report Share Posted 3October, 2016 Not being rude here, but why a water cooled engine? That creates a lot more work and wiring issues than installing an air cooled VW engine, which would both need chassis/engine mount modifications and need to be signed off by an engineer. Then it would be deemed as a custom engine, not to mention the engineering inspection and roadworthy headaches. Source the correct engine type and be done with it, as I think you'll have dramas with any other engine that is not period correct for the carmy Freudian typo - I meant an air cooled beetle motor !!!! me = dufus LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spannerhead Posted 4October, 2016 Report Share Posted 4October, 2016 Well this wasn't really supposed to happen.Several false starts of projects over the last two years, but maybe the recent selling of a local yellow 'street find' 912 tipped the balance. That and the fact that this dusty, engine-less example was being saved and the seller only wanted $9KThis could be fun. A journey to be had back from the US, a possible 4 pot engine build on route, design and planning. The end game? Not sure yet...I have been thinking on a similar project . To build an R super light with a short stroke 2.5 , about 190hp and around 900kg . Give a turbo a run. symsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 4October, 2016 Report Share Posted 4October, 2016 holding out on more photos. As a Kansas car we should be goodYou do know they salt the roads in winter don't you. Ozvino, Robert930, michel and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronBayChris Posted 4October, 2016 Report Share Posted 4October, 2016 Go with a correct 912 engine. $10k will get you a good one. Don't try to go "fast".....you've got two of those Ozvino and symsy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 4October, 2016 Report Share Posted 4October, 2016 Go with a correct 912 engine. $10k will get you a good one. Don't try to go "fast".....you've got two of thosebooo!flat six on carbs with raucous intakes and centre exit exhausts. SimonN, tomo, symsy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K911 Posted 4October, 2016 Report Share Posted 4October, 2016 How about a stripped down lightweight outlaw. 800kgs + 4 cylinders = fun.Inspiration here: https://youtu.be/eAY5fRglsb4 MezgerMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJM Posted 4October, 2016 Report Share Posted 4October, 2016 Getting the four pot will help with engineering etc but just saying. Porsche 911 S 1974 2.7 Engine Webers not included. on Gumtree http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/1121165795?utm_campaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_ios&utm_medium=social&utm_source=sms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 5October, 2016 Author Report Share Posted 5October, 2016 more pics. Its worth the $9k just to see the pic of the barn it came out of . Very straight and all rust free apart from pans needs replacing is the report so far Mike-S and BJM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 5October, 2016 Report Share Posted 5October, 2016 I'm surprised you have used the word "cost" in your posts Tom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 5October, 2016 Report Share Posted 5October, 2016 You sure thats not the Amityville horror house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 5October, 2016 Report Share Posted 5October, 2016 Dat green tacho tho 3 or 5 dial dash? Ah never mind saw pic up top of 5 dial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike-S Posted 5October, 2016 Report Share Posted 5October, 2016 I think you need to buy the barn as well ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 5October, 2016 Report Share Posted 5October, 2016 5 gauge - only the early fellas were typically 3 turboT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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