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1978 Porsche 930 Turbo Coupe @ Shannons

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Has done about 260,000kms and is being offered for $75,000

Seems undervalued for a car in such great condition.

Are the k's excessive or is this a fair price for this vehicle?

- Factory Silver, Australian delivered

- 437bhp at rear wheels

- Appropriate upgrades to match

In the vendor's own words, "This 930 ticks a lot of boxes!"

It's an Australian-delivered car in its factory silver on two-tone black/grey trim. The owner has been meticulous with upgrading the car to retain its classic look but to further enhance the 930's dynamics. With 437bhp at the rear wheels, braking and suspension have been improved to ensure its rampant power can be reined in safely. Also installed is a Ruf five-speed gearbox which makes shifting much less cumbersome.

http://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/lot/IGHM8BE2LW0J86CB

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Nick, thats a great car.

Without the mods it would get 100k easy.

However, thats why its cheap.

I would buy that car in a heart beat.

The gearbox is worth about 25k, and with that power it would be awesome.

My only question would be the HP.

437 at the wheels with the CIS ?

I dont see anything about EFI conversion.

More power than my car, and I am on the limit for CIS.

Anyhow, someone please buy it.

The owner could sell this car in europe for big bucks.

78 and 79s are a big deal in europe now.

kms are not a big deal.

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Dont worry about the high KMs. Just buy it and give it a haircut! Just kidding...

Great looking car. I would love to have it in my garage.

$75k does seem like a lot of $ for a car with in excess of 1/4 of a million kms though.

Well, keep in mind that old girl will kill a new GT3.

In a straight line. :)

At 75k its a steal.

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Could always set her up as a drag car.

All these cars need is a good set of tyres and you can stay with anything up to a 993 in the corners. ;)

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Yes, with a few mods they are still a fast car.

However, they are old cars.

Poor air con, slow shifting gearbox, 70s brakes, the list goes on.

You need to be into them to have one.

But with a few mods a great car for the money.

To drive one on the limit is as much fun as you can have in a Porsche.

Not a daily driver.

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great car, you dont see too many 70's 930's for sale.. the km's actually make me more interested in the car as it shows the car has been driven regularly. as long as it has been maintained the km's dont matter at all..

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In my mind, and probably the majority of people, the 930 is classic old school Porsche. To own one of these you should be a big Porsche fan, have a few spare dollars to keep it pristine and balls of steel. Scares the sh*t out of me!

Real man's car, hey Vas!

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Well...given all these fine comments, wonder why it hasnt sold...was always and is my boyhood hero car, didnt even have a posterf of a Countach S on my wall as a kid. Remember always dreaming of a 930!

Drove one once on my car washing round when I was 18 and that squirt around the block has stayed with me for life! Soooo insane acceleration!

Wonder why it hasn't moved given K's aren't a big deal, sounds like a real stonker!

Been listed on Shannons a while now...

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Vas you indicate without mods the car fetches more, so can you really mod the car and expect to retain any value?

Seems to me to enjoy it, you need to mod it to modernise it. But in doing so, you diminish its collectibility.

So seems its either a collectible, in which case don't mod it to drive and enjoy, or buy a cheaper modded one to drive and enjoy and forgo much appreciation and desirability to a collector, or buy a factory unmodded and mod yourself to enjoy and again give up the collectibility...

Seems a bit of a black or white thing to me.

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i'd say suspension mods, upgraded shocks, torsion bars etc won't detract from the value nor add value.. but gearbox changes, engine/exhaust mods will definately hurt the value..

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Vas you indicate without mods the car fetches more, so can you really mod the car and expect to retain any value?

Seems to me to enjoy it, you need to mod it to modernise it. But in doing so, you diminish its collectibility.

So seems its either a collectible, in which case don't mod it to drive and enjoy, or buy a cheaper modded one to drive and enjoy and forgo much appreciation and desirability to a collector, or buy a factory unmodded and mod yourself to enjoy and again give up the collectibility...

Seems a bit of a black or white thing to me.

Yes, its all a lot of crap.

This car is cheap due to the mods.

In real world terms, so long as the body is not modified it should not make any diff.

Why you may ask ?

Well in this case its a Ruf 5 speed, made from an original 4 speed.

So no mods to fit it, from the outside is the same as a factory 4 speed.

A 5 speed is the best mod you can do to a 930.

They dont make these anymore and are very rare and co$tly.

You can get a stock 930 4 speed for a few k.

As long as you dont fit coil overs you can put in the original TBs anytime.

Engine mods are no big deal, plenty of stock cams around for these things.

You wont find an original factory exhaust for these cars , and you cant get them from Porsche.

They are old and most like mine have holes and rust.

My point is, its easy to put it back to original apart from the exhaust.

If the car, like this one has no body or undertray mods its as good as stock for value. IMO

However most people buying a collector want it factory without any work needed.

This is just one of those gems that goes cheap due to myth and ideas.

You could buy this car, use it for a few years and then restore it back in the future.

Hell, I have everything here to turn it back to factory.

But in that state it would just sit in the shed waiting for future sale.

As it is would be perfect, and you have something easy to restore and sell in the future.

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Gotcha! ;) And I am assuming the RUF gb is the biz, as these models worked by RUF back then were very desirable and expensive and rare. Also imagine the 5 speed would be better suited for higher speed cruising?

Now to dig up that $75k :ph34r:

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Mmmm...wheels are a bit 'bogue'

And the mods...

Recently $$$$ spent including new rotors and pads front and back, Fikse wheels and tyres, new TurboKraft intercooler, K27's' turbo, Fabspeed exhaust, new ignition, fuel pumps, fender oil cooler, etc. etc.

Vas, is a CIS to EFI mod desirable? Practicality speaking?

Is it expensive to do? Hard to get right? In that does it butcher up the car if done 'on the cheap'?

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Gotcha! ;) And I am assuming the RUF gb is the biz, as these models worked by RUF back then were very desirable and expensive and rare. Also imagine the 5 speed would be better suited for higher speed cruising?

Now to dig up that $75k :ph34r:

Not for cruising, Nick.

The five speed keeps you on boost as the ratios are closer.

I had a rare 89 mod 930, the only one with a factory 5 speed.

Its another world.

Is the ruf 5 speed better than a factory G 50 5 speed ?

No.

But to change an older 930 to a g50 is alot of work and money (over 20k)

You need all the rear suspension and bits to go with it.

This is why its best to get a 964/5 turbo if you want a car for use.

Me, I like the old 930. :)

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Mmmm...wheels are a bit 'bogue'

And the mods...

Recently $$$$ spent including new rotors and pads front and back, Fikse wheels and tyres, new TurboKraft intercooler, K27's' turbo, Fabspeed exhaust, new ignition, fuel pumps, fender oil cooler, etc. etc.

Vas, is a CIS to EFI mod desirable? Practicality speaking?

Is it expensive to do? Hard to get right? In that does it butcher up the car if done 'on the cheap'?

Not many people in Australia can do the ECU, Nick.

Motec can help, but big bucks.

In the US everyone is going efi on these cars.

Turbo Kraft make everything you need bar the ecu.

You need a carerra manifold and a few other things.

Power is up to 800hp if you want it with efi.

+ you can tune it spot on.

The old CSI fuel system can go to about 420hp, like on my car.

My car is plenty fast enough, some people want more.

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