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SimonN reacted to a post in a topic: Whats for sale (in Australia ) and interesting Thread
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So before all the vultures descend, let me post this https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1985/SSE-AD-5399047/?_ga=2.110645829.1331349715.1524460941-249607667.1518072442&_gac=1.175974678.1524534620.EAIaIQobChMI9drxgubR2gIVVAoqCh36ugPKEAAYASAAEgKodvD_BwE It's with much regret I have decided to part with my 3.2. As much as i love the car (I really do!) I am not using it and have better use for the money. I have been out of touch with the market for some time, so i hope I have the value about right.
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Welcome WGA. What a surprise to see you here
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Cup flywheel can be a pain, but with the correct mapping, they are a dream. Without the right map you end up stalling all the time when you come to a stop or you have to be a boy racer blipping the throttle at the right time to prevent the stall, which is a PITA. Having used one on a daily drive for 2 years including regular London traffic, I can assure people that they can be made more than acceptable (although some think my tastes can be a bit hard core at times )
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Who the hell is Tim? My tiping is rally bod!
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Seriously, Tim, you need to change shipping agent if that is the way they work. It will save you thousands of dollars. The key is that the valuer has to value it as a car that does not comply with Oz regs and which cannot be registered. He is not allowed to consider that it might get registered, for a very good reason. If taxes are paid on a future value that isn't realised, you would have a claim for the difference between what you should have paid and what you did pay. This isn't some untried "scam" way of avoiding tax. It is the way all the trade bring in old cars and the import agent I used who was then dealing with cars every week said he didn't bring them in any other way. My 964 RS was valued at $24k when I brought it in when the value once registered was probably $100k. I cannot remember the exact figure, but the saving on tax was over $20k. I would recommend that anybody looking at bringing a car into Oz speaks to a range of import agents until you find one that understands this way of bringing in a car and can show a track record of doing so.
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Personal imports (12 months rule) comply to different rules. Effectively, all that they need to do is certify the car meets certain basic criteria such as safety and you can bring in a highly modified car. In the case of importing a car from overseas under normal rules, it needs to be ADR compliant. I believe that applies to club rego as well. My understanding is you cannot go for any registration until the compliance plate has been fitted, which means that the compliance is "blind" of the rego criteria.
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You can probably shave $25-30k off that if you look at GST and LCT another way. When bringing in a car from overseas, you want to work out whether purchase price or a valuation on landing will produce the lowest value to base taxes on. Remember, the valuation on landing is for a car that is not road registered and is done on the basis that it cannot be registered. So how much is a LHD modified 930 that cannot be road registered worth? $75k? Less maybe? That still says it will cost north of, say, $170k to get on the road, plus a fair amount of heart ache. I cannot see that it is worth it.
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My gut feel is that it isn't cheap even though I suspect it is a good car. It's a UK car, however long it has been over here. I would suggest that it is not far off the money for a coupe, rather than a targa. I don't see it above $60K and maybe its less than that. I sure hope that is the correct price for an SC Targa, but that looks like coupe money to me.
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Heard last night and still in shock. having done business with him and sought advice on other P cars I know just what a loss this is to the Porsche community. A true and honourable gentleman who put his reputation well ahead of making a sale or a quick buck. My condolences to his family. RIP
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How the hell would he know! There is no way in proving that and just adds to the risks with that car. Nobody fits a race seat with harness and bar to drive the streets, you have no idea how well it is mapped or what boost it is currently running, never mind what it has been pushed to and there is no background to the car. Surely this is almost as "bad" as it gets. Look at it another way. It is a converted LHD car with little history running a non standard engine which may or may not be matching numbers. It doesn't have all it's original panels, the paintwork is in unknown condition and it is on the wrong wheels. One word springs to mind. RUN!
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