tazzieman Posted 28May, 2017 Report Share Posted 28May, 2017 I watched some of this over the weekend, good stuff!Caymans go OK, but Porsches not dominant in the top 10. Has the 911 had its day I wonder?http://www.nuerburgring.de/uploads/media/24h-Rennen_Race_Result.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 28May, 2017 Report Share Posted 28May, 2017 Porsche is not the first choice for a lot of teams. Unless it's basically a factory 911, they look like they haven't got the top speed the Audi, Aston's and Lambo's have at the longer tracks. Dempsey racing have a quick car, yet I dare say the factory would be giving them a fair whack of support with factory pilot Pat Long as lead driver. Liam Talbot and John Martin put the Walkinshaw 911 on the front row at the Island on the weekend (finished 6th), yet it was clear they looked a little slower top end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 28May, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 28May, 2017 Before http://www.thedrive.com/flat-six-society/9560/porsche-has-stacked-the-nurburgring-24-hour-deck-in-their-favor Porsche has been preparing for the Nurburgring 24 hour race all season, and they've been doing a damn good job of it, too. Porsche-owned Manthey Racing has come home victorious twice already in the first two four-hour VLN series races of the season, both times with Porsche factory drivers sharing driving duties. It makes sense that they care so much about this race, being that they've won the race eleven times (most recently in 2011), and they're looking to make it an even dozen. The race is also a point of pride among Germany's manufacturers, having been won by a BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Porsche, or Opel every year since 2002 (curse those Vipers!). While the race is still a long and grueling 24 hours, basically anything can (and often will) happen, Porsche is giving themselves a few advantages this year that might tip things in their favor. First and foremost, there will be a full set of six brand new 911 GT3Rs entered in the race. There will be three cars entered in the race for Manthey, two for Frikadelli Racing, and one final entry resplendent in the traditional blue and green of Falken Motorsports. While Porsche's newest GT3-classed racer is already proven successful at the Nurburgring, it's the driver lineups that seem absolutely stunning to us. In the Manthey #911 car, a killer quartet of Romain Dumas, Richard Lietz, Fred Makowiecki, and Patrick Pilet will share driving duties for the factory's best bet on outright victory. In the Falken Motorsports car, another easy contender, Joerg Bergmeister, Martin Ragginger, Laurens Vanthoor, and Dirk Werner will split the 24-hour race into more manageable chunks. The third Porsche in the "Pro" category is the Frikadelli Racing #31 with Klaus Bachler, Michael Christensen, Lucas Luhr, and Norbert Siedler aboard. The "Amateur" category entrants, which also make use of Porsche 911 GT3R racing cars, are allowed to run a combination of professional drivers and so-called "gentleman drivers" or people who don't race for a living, suppose. In this category, Manthey has the #12 and the #59 in their corner. The #12 will feature two Porsche junior professionals, Matteo Cairoli and Otto Klohs teamed with Mathieu Jaminet and Robert Renauer, while the #59 car will feature Porsche pro Sven Muller teaming Hari Proczyk, Reinhold Renger, and S Smith. “We’ve made the conscious decision to back our customer teams rather than compete against them in the VLN races and at the Nürburgring 24-hour race. We’re supporting them by supplying works drivers as well as technical assistance,” says Sebastian Golz, Project Manager GT Customer Motorsport. “The expertise of our teams Falken Motorsports, Frikadelli Racing and Manthey Racing combined with our support and the concept of the 911 GT3 R have underlined in the VLN1 and VLN2 preparation races that we’re currently on the right path. We claimed pole position and overall victory at both of these events and also won the amateur classification. With our customer squads, we’ll now take on the challenge of the Nürburgring 24-hour race and the strong opposition from other manufacturers’ works teams.” After : What now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew F Posted 29May, 2017 Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 Porsche has been preparing for the Nurburgring 24 hour race all seasonThey say that, but their real focus is on that other 24 hour race. The one in France. They can't very well just rock up, and when asked, go "nein, ve just come to ze Nurburgrink because it is just down ze road. Ve really just vant to vin Le Mans again". See the name of one of the drivers in the winning Audi? Son of the legendary Manfred Winkelhock. Did you see the cars getting lift off at the crest near the Flugplatz? even the Bently's got their wheels up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 29May, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 My feeling is they aren't prepared to admit the 911 concept has had its day. Except in cup racing where they will always get 1st-10th place. And perhaps historic rallying in places like Africa where the ability to hang the back end out and swim like a frog is useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 29May, 2017 Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 My feeling is they aren't prepared to admit the 911 concept has had its day. Except in cup racing where they will always get 1st-10th place. And perhaps historic rallying in places like Africa where the ability to hang the back end out and swim like a frog is useful I thought that was the whole idea behind the mid engined RSR? Or is that not allowed to run this class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 29May, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 I thought that was the whole idea behind the mid engined RSR? Or is that not allowed to run this class?They are being campaigned in the WEC series without overly distinguishing themselves. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 29May, 2017 Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 In that and the LMP1 class, Porsche can't get a win anywhere.....Hopefully they are just setting the car for Le Mans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 29May, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 In that and the LMP1 class, Porsche can't get a win anywhere.....They did win Spa , in the 919And no doubt a few cup car races somewhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 29May, 2017 Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 They did win Spa , in the 919Nope, Toyota have won both races this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 29May, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 Nope, Toyota have won both races this season.My rose coloured glasses says they did...pole position ;<) Like second place at the Olympics , no-one remembers pole position though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 29May, 2017 Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 They are being campaigned in the WEC series without overly distinguishing themselves. Time will tell.Yes no RSR at this event best place P car was GT3 cup R spec car and a surprising number of GT4,s also competed ,,I do like the event it always has a huge variety of brands competing every thing from High end sports cars to budget hatchbacks in their respective class,s ,,,I find this a lot more of a realistic representation of production car racing then our bloody V8 supercars ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 29May, 2017 Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 every thing from High end sports cars to budget hatchbacks in their respective class,s ,,,I find this a lot more of a realistic representation of production car racing then our bloody V8 supercars ... Say that to the Audi driver overtaking a little hatchback yesterday! I dare say he'd disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 29May, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 I'd like to see a tricked up Panamera at Bathurst. Nothing beats a V8. Except a Viper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 29May, 2017 Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 Say that to the Audi driver overtaking a little hatchback yesterday! I dare say he'd disagree That is always going to happen as you know and as a driver you would have to accept that as being part of the event and one of the challenges to overcome ,,, how often do we see LMP1 cars hit or get hit by the slower class GT cars in WEC ,it is what make endurance racing more spectacular as there are so many elements that have to be mastered to achieve victory ,,, With 160 starters at the the race yesterday that is a lot of traffic to deal with ,not to mention the complexity and length of that circuit itself ,,certainly and event I wish to go to at some stage ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 29May, 2017 Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 I'd like to see a tricked up Panamera at Bathurst. Nothing beats a V8. Except a Viper.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1C9THUfXbDA&time_continue=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 29May, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 29May, 2017 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1C9THUfXbDA&time_continue=19Porsche seem to be continuing the tradition of not going V8 racing. Which is a shame. They did OK with the flat 8s though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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