help WTD,92 cab 3.6ltr

[Mick92cab]

Hi all I've just joined your site hoping I can get some help. A strange series of events sees me the owner of a 92 model 911 cabriolet 3.6ltr tiptronic Australian delivery with 115kms, that has been stored on blocks for the last 5 yrs.The car is complete and in good condition except the motor is locked and wont turn over. Unfortunately I am not a mechanic or have a knowledge of porsche motors. I would appreciate any help I can get to solve this problem and get the car running Thanks Mick

[wasserkuhl]

Hi Mick,

 

Sounds like a nice car with Big problem.

 

Have you actually tested the motor? ie: Turned it, or tried to turn it yourself? Manually with a socket and Breaker bar on the rear pulley bolt?

 

As it is a Tiptronic I'd suggest placing it in 'N' or "D" and trying to turn it over, Clockwise(do not attempt to turn it over anti-clockwise) to ascertain if the motor itself is locked or can be turned manually.

 

If it can be turned over, then you could be hunting a Starter motor and minor electrical problem, or possibly an issue within the Tiptronic that has locked itself and in turn, the motor.

 

If it can't be turned over manually I would be sending it to a specialist such as Autohaus or similar to fully diagnose the issue.

 

I wouldn't panic too much as it would seem out of the ordinary for this motor to have a catastrophic failure and lock itself as its a tiptronic and cannot be over-revved

 

What did the Previous owner give you as far as history or the story behind why the car was stored?

 

If you aren't mechanically minded get it inspected an diagnosed by a known local specialist, this will save you alot of time and money.

 

It is, of course a Porsche so you will have fork out some wonga regardless of its diagnosis.

[Mick92cab]

Hi thanks for the reply. The car is sitting at the back of a small workshop,

I have talked to the mechanic and he said the motor cannot be turned over manually

He feels something is broken or damage in the bottom end

He won't dismantle and rebuild the engine but would be willing to remove the existing engine,

I'm trying to work out what would be the most cost-effective way to go

1 find someone willing to rebuild this motor

2 source a short motor or reconditioned motor

3 find a good second hand motor

As I said any help is greatly appreciated

Thanks

[hugh]

Either way the motor will need to be removed. I'd be getting workshop man to drop it out and send it off as Wasser suggested to someone that know these cars (Autohaus are a highly renowned).

Get a diagnosis and their professional recommendation, the car is worth that.

[wasserkuhl]

Definitely what Hugh said.

 

You could try a local porsche breaker to see if they have a motor that they could sell you and offer a warranty.

 

Here's some options here :

 

http://www.aporschapart.com/parts.html

 

http://www.swanporsche.com.au/

 

You can easily source a used motor from overseas, Warranted and shipped for circa 15k.

 

In Fact, heres one here :

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-964-Engine-Motor-3-6-Replacment-ONLY-13000-miles-/310716852676?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3APorsche&hash=item48582ae9c4&vxp=mtr

 

A rebuild on your motor would start at 15k and could run to 30k dependant on what has failed within.

 

It is, however, worth removing the engine and having it dismantled to inspect what has failed. This could yield a relatively simple and less costly solution.(Such as broken Starter motor or similar)

 

Bearing in mind how much you are into this car(what it owes you) and that its likley top value running is circa 45-50k.

[Airhead]

There is one for sale on this forum.

 

[Russ]

I think the watercooled-ness might make that 3.6 not work

[Airhead]

 

I think the watercooled-ness might make that 3.6 not work

Yeah. But what a project!!

[PCM911T]

Hi Mick, everyone seems to have rushed to the worst case scenario. I'm not sure what type of mechanic you are dealing with but I would not remove the engine but get the intact car to a Porsche specialist like Autohaus Hamilton or independent Porsche specialist. A car that has not run for five years will need recommissioning for all its systems, and you need a technician that knows what to do. Not sure about the 3.6 but the earlier engines can be unstuck and often do not need a full rebuild in these circumstances. I'd find out what is actually wrong, before getting another engine. Big question is why was it on blocks in the first place??

 

Cheers

 

Paul M

[sydr]

Hi Mick, everyone seems to have rushed to the worst case scenario. I'm not sure what type of mechanic you are dealing with but I would not remove the engine but get the intact car to a Porsche specialist like Autohaus Hamilton or independent Porsche specialist. A car that has not run for five years will need recommissioning for all its systems, and you need a technician that knows what to do. Not sure about the 3.6 but the earlier engines can be unstuck and often do not need a full rebuild in these circumstances. I'd find out what is actually wrong, before getting another engine. Big question is why was it on blocks in the first place??

 

Cheers

 

Paul M

 

What he said!!!!!!!!

Absolutely right on the money.  And will almost certainly end up as the cheapest solution.  Unless you just sell it as a project but don't expect to get a lot doing it that way.

[68 TT]

Your car is worth much more when you go to sell it if it has its matching engine number, even if it costs more to rebuild it is well worth the investment.

[Mick92cab]

Thanks again for all the replies

Also thanks to James from Autohaus for contacting me

What would the car be worth with a reconditioned engine?

It has no rust, paint work is good but it is a plum color

Leather and all interior is good,the roof has a couple of small tears

I would consider selling it as a project but at the moment it owes me $16 K

[SteamWolf]

Where are you located mate?

[Russ]

do it Jim!

[SteamWolf]

At the very least if it is not too far I can do the diagnosis. At best I may be interested in buying it.