tazzieman Posted 31July, 2018 Report Share Posted 31July, 2018 https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/on-the-road/calls-for-bold-new-road-user-tax-as-electric-vehicle-numbers-rise/news-story/afd746a04563202e122f3531761c803a Fair is fair after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 31July, 2018 Report Share Posted 31July, 2018 Unless I am mistaken we already have a user pays system here in Sydney ..................TOLLS I paid over $4800 in toll this year to use our SH#T roads ?? No escaping them in Sydney .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 31July, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 31July, 2018 48 minutes ago, Raven said: Unless I am mistaken we already have a user pays system here in Sydney ..................TOLLS I paid over $4800 in toll this year to use our SH#T roads ?? No escaping them in Sydney .. Even if you are the King of Sydney , you cannot escape the troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 31July, 2018 Report Share Posted 31July, 2018 They are current doing a lot of major road upgrades that are badly need to hopefully ease some off the huge traffic problems this city currently has ...The bad side is that every upgrade comes with an additional toll ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 31July, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 31July, 2018 16 minutes ago, Raven said: They are current doing a lot of major road upgrades that are badly need to hopefully ease some off the huge traffic problems this city currently has ...The bad side is that every upgrade comes with an additional toll ... Here , we have too many vehicles - and roads that cannot be widened. Plus , totally wrong terrain for tunnels , bypasses , trains or trams. So all you mainlanders flocking here , you better be handy driving Shank's pony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 31July, 2018 Report Share Posted 31July, 2018 1 minute ago, tazzieman said: Here , we have too many vehicles - and roads that cannot be widened. Plus , totally wrong terrain for tunnels , bypasses , trains or trams. So all you mainlanders flocking here , you better be handy driving Shank's pony! Shanks pony comes toll free ............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhead Posted 31July, 2018 Report Share Posted 31July, 2018 1 hour ago, Raven said: Shanks pony comes toll free ............ So far................................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 31July, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 31July, 2018 36 minutes ago, Airhead said: So far................................ "Let me tell you how it will beThere's one for you, nineteen for me'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah, I'm the taxman Should five per cent appear too smallBe thankful I don't take it all'Cause I'm the taxman, yeah I'm the taxman If you drive a car, I'll tax the street,If you try to sit, I'll tax your seat.If you get too cold I'll tax the heat,If you take a walk, I'll tax your feet." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redracn Posted 31July, 2018 Report Share Posted 31July, 2018 There should also be a weight multiplier for the virtue signalers driving heavy EV as well as a torque multiplier as the EV do more damage accelerating from lights. Then add battery disposal and other end of life cost as well as removal of purchase subsidies were the poor pay to stroke the EV drivers ego and we will see what sort of people buy EV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZ930 Posted 5August, 2018 Report Share Posted 5August, 2018 On 31 July 2018 at 5:17 PM, Raven said: Shanks pony comes toll free ............ Sorry, no animals or pedestrians allowed on the toll way…….you'll have to go the long way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 5August, 2018 Report Share Posted 5August, 2018 13 minutes ago, OZ930 said: Sorry, no animals or pedestrians allowed on the toll way…….you'll have to go the long way or pay an additional infringement for doing so ......................$$$$$$$$$$ all about safety and the well being of motorists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 16August, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 It's OK , the government can relax https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/australia-is-the-worstequipped-nation-for-electric-cars-and-we-lag-a-decade-behind-the-world/news-story/9c8cfbbf9275c5a067180eb0a4ce5e0f It's all their fault either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 16August, 2018 Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 100% right Mate the European nations are way ahead ....Countries like Germany have huge net work of charge stations and consumer benefits in place ... One off my biggest frustrations about all things beneficial to the environment in this country is we get charge top dollar and then some extra to do what is good for the environment.. Many other nations make these environment friendly products cheaper to encourage the consumer to use them and create a win win situation for both consumer and environment ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 16August, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 Australia is still in the selling it's body to pay the rent stage. At a global level , there is some irony in all of this. Not much bronzey, but a whole wad of easy cash. As long as the pollies keep showing how deeply they "care" about us , we're in a spot of long term bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redracn Posted 16August, 2018 Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 2 hours ago, tazzieman said: It's OK , the government can relax https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/australia-is-the-worstequipped-nation-for-electric-cars-and-we-lag-a-decade-behind-the-world/news-story/9c8cfbbf9275c5a067180eb0a4ce5e0f It's all their fault either way Us bad lemmings should just fall into line and do what we are told. /sarc It seems even more taxing of the poor is required to subsidize the virtue signaling of the rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 16August, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 1 hour ago, Redracn said: Us bad lemmings should just fall into line and do what we are told. /sarc It seems even more taxing of the poor is required to subsidize the virtue signaling of the rich. You're not suggesting Champagne Socialism is bad for the environment too? It's all so confusing. I just want to leave my mark for future generations. On a tight series of curves. In my Porsch-a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 16August, 2018 Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 2 hours ago, Redracn said: Us bad lemmings should just fall into line and do what we are told. /sarc It seems even more taxing of the poor is required to subsidize the virtue signaling of the rich. What a positive article, good news, great we are a decade behind and lagging and snowballing backwards. I'll be happy if we never embrace EV or the infrastructure and never have the government fork over a heap of hard earned to support it in any way. What a fear mongering article and everything mentioned is "urgent" and "we must be compelled" or enticed (with our own dollars) to engage or or or or or …. or what? What would happen in effect if we never embraced EV's? - nothing, business as usual. Electric Vehicle Council is not a government body of course and they have a huge financial agenda to push this, so I take their urging with 10 grains of salt. "Behyad Jafari, chief executive of the Electric Vehicle Council, He said embracing electric cars could lead to improved public health, better energy security and increased economic activity. Really? "Improved public health", I don't buy that for a minute, want better health? Exercise and don't eat shit. "Better energy security"? Hmmmm tell that to SA who have power security problems now and soon to be in VIc. And how is all the increased power needs produced that is required for an onslaught of EV's, when we are already at basically maximum production of power atm. "Increased economic activity" Yes into Behyad's bank account... And activity out of our wallets and not into our wallets..... I'd love to see the article supply notations and links to the data that supports his word salad of propaganda. None listed or stated of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 16August, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 2 hours ago, Troubleshooter said: "Behyad Jafari, chief executive of the Electric Vehicle Council, I was brought up on the word game. You can get airhead and faraday out of that fellow's name. One or either or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redracn Posted 16August, 2018 Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 Warning for snowflakes. This video shows Lemmings and a cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 16August, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 2 minutes ago, Redracn said: Warning for snowflakes. This video shows Lemmings and a cliff. Have you got any exploding lemmings videos? Or just the gerbil ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redracn Posted 16August, 2018 Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 22 minutes ago, tazzieman said: Have you got any exploding lemmings videos? Or just the gerbil ones? I prefer to watch snowflakes heads exploding to the sound of popcorn in the microwave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 16August, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 16August, 2018 Wow! You have a microwave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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