Apple CarPlay for PCM 3.1

[edgy]

Hello, 

Has anyone had Apple CarPlay added to their PCM 3.1 locally? 

My Rennlist searching leads me to a few options 

• Isudar
• Mr 12 Volt  - (best audio quality supposedly) 
• NM Automotive

I've decided this is the one mod-con I refuse to live without in a daily driver, so if anyone has had one of these or something equivalent locally, would be good to hear your feedback.

Cheers 

[P-Kay]

Pretty sure Jeff @MFX did something to his Macan on this front? Perhaps he can chime in on option chosen and current operation/satisfaction?

[sleazius]

Blows me away that car brands still to this day don't integrate both Apple Carplay and Android Auto. The latter of which is even more egregious due to the fact that 70% of phones (globally) are android based, and many manufacturers will have Carplay and not Android Auto.

[edgy]

1 hour ago, sleazius said:

Blows me away that car brands still to this day don't integrate both Apple Carplay and Android Auto. The latter of which is even more egregious due to the fact that 70% of phones (globally) are android based, and many manufacturers will have Carplay and not Android Auto.

I hear you... it is free money for a lot of these manufacturers (ie Porsche), I am not sure what it costs to "option" it on a new build, but you just know they're having a laugh when you get it (wireless too) on a Kia Picanto as standard equipment! 

In this case, I am looking to add it to vehicle that predates it as standard equipment... it way MY17 that it became an option for the PCM 4.0 iirc

[Joz]

https://ppacaraudio.com.au/product/porsche-pcm-3-1-apple-carplay-android-auto-integration/

[sleazius]

The only article I could find was from 2018 and stated that Apple gave manufacturers Carplay for free as it drove people to buy more of their phones. Got to love Euro brands charging $2k+ for it.

[MFX]

8 hours ago, P-Kay said:

Pretty sure Jeff @MFX did something to his Macan on this front? Perhaps he can chime in on option chosen and current operation/satisfaction?

Yep. I put the Joyeauto unit into my Macan and the most difficult part is getting the dash off to get the unit out. After that it is not too difficult. I did a video on it, but James at Auto Amateur's video is more thorough. 

It is wireless and I have been using it for at least 18 months or so now. Only hiccups I have had was the reverse camera didn't work, but I just had to tweak some dip switches on the unit and it came back. The only other thing is that I listen to the cars regular radio, but I have the carplay running Waze while I drive. If I get a phone call, I can answer it on the screen, but I have to hit the cars Source button and switch from FM to AUX to get sound. If you listen to music or podcasts or whatever all through the Carplay you won't have this issue though.

I am no audiophile so I can't comment on the sound quality. Sounds fine to me, but I wouldn't know the difference

[Goofen]

I ordered this Kit from Chris who is very active on various FB groups: Carplay / Android Auto Plug and Play Kit for Porsche PCM 3.1 - 991.1 9 – carplayretrofits 

I think it is based off a similar platform - Chris says that his kit has ironed  out some of the bugs (unconfirmed). 

I am on the fence regarding the install. My 991.1 has the extended Porsche warranty and as much as I would like the Apple Carplay feature, I am not sure I want to deviate from OEM. 

I could be persuaded to move this on if someone wanted to through with the installation.

 

[MFX]

4 hours ago, Goofen said:

I ordered this Kit from Chris who is very active on various FB groups: Carplay / Android Auto Plug and Play Kit for Porsche PCM 3.1 - 991.1 9 – carplayretrofits 

I think it is based off a similar platform - Chris says that his kit has ironed  out some of the bugs (unconfirmed). 

I am on the fence regarding the install. My 991.1 has the extended Porsche warranty and as much as I would like the Apple Carplay feature, I am not sure I want to deviate from OEM. 

I could be persuaded to move this on if someone wanted to through with the installation.

 

Not sure about that unit but with mine, the factory system is unchanged. If you disconnected the power to it you would never know it was there. You just toggle between the Carplay and the PCM with the factory Nav button.

[edgy]

I ended up drinking the kool aid and ordering the Mr 12 volt system... I'll check back post install

[DieRooiGevaar]

On 11/08/2023 at 11:59, edgy said:

I ended up drinking the kool aid and ordering the Mr 12 volt system... I'll check back post install

@edgy did you ever get around to that install?

[edgy]

On 24/04/2024 at 11:27, DieRooiGevaar said:

@edgy did you ever get around to that install?

Not yet, it’s still in the box … I ought to do something about it! Will update once I have 

[DieRooiGevaar]

On 26/04/2024 at 20:56, edgy said:

Not yet, it’s still in the box … I ought to do something about it! Will update once I have 

Ha ha ha I'm quite familar with procrastination. Please do let us know - hell, even ahead of time because maybe some of us will join you while you're at it.

[Miffy]

Would Porsche decline renewal of the extended warranty if you they determined you had a system installed ?

Of course, be nice if there was a genuine option… 

[edgy]

On 07/05/2024 at 14:21, DieRooiGevaar said:

Ha ha ha I'm quite familar with procrastination. Please do let us know - hell, even ahead of time because maybe some of us will join you while you're at it.

I had to go and pick up the RS from the shop last week, so I used it as an excuse to actually dust off this box and do car swap to have fitted this CarPlay unit. 

I've only had it a couple of days, but it is really good I have to say... feels like OEM to me, the only thing I haven't tried is the radio app so I can listen to FM radio & use the waze nav etc for the $$$ it is a great option versus the expense of the PCCM+ unit I bought for my 997, that was a costly exercise (worth it), but the PCM 3.1 hardware in our cars is more than adequate for this mod... the car feels 10 years younger now.  

 

[DieRooiGevaar]

So @edgy you did it yourself? If so, difficulty of installation? Tell us more! 

[edgy]

26 minutes ago, DieRooiGevaar said:

So @edgy you did it yourself? If so, difficulty of installation? Tell us more! 

I gave it to the guys at PR tech, they said it was very straightforward, perhaps a few hours at best… sorry I’m not much more help than that! But I bought it via Roman @ ACS on rennlist, his comms & support were great and he would guide you through an install 

[DieRooiGevaar]

Hell no, if you found an installer I'd rather do the same. Mind if I ask what they charged you? 

[MFX]

2 hours ago, DieRooiGevaar said:

So @edgy you did it yourself? If so, difficulty of installation? Tell us more! 

I put mine in myself. Pulling out the dash vent was the only difficult bit, the rest was easy.

4 hours ago, edgy said:

I had to go and pick up the RS from the shop last week, so I used it as an excuse to actually dust off this box and do car swap to have fitted this CarPlay unit. 

I've only had it a couple of days, but it is really good I have to say... feels like OEM to me, the only thing I haven't tried is the radio app so I can listen to FM radio & use the waze nav etc for the $$$ it is a great option versus the expense of the PCCM+ unit I bought for my 997, that was a costly exercise (worth it), but the PCM 3.1 hardware in our cars is more than adequate for this mod... the car feels 10 years younger now.  

 

If you have the same JoyeAuto unit as I do you can still listen to the radio via the regular PCM. Hit the Source button and select FM, then you can navigate to the original Porsche stations. Hit Navi and it will switch the screen back to Carplay but the audio will still be the PCM. Just a bit of a juggle when you get a phone call and have to go back to Source and switch back to Aux. 

[DieRooiGevaar]

On 27/06/2024 at 21:34, MFX said:

I put mine in myself. Pulling out the dash vent was the only difficult bit, the rest was easy.

If you have the same JoyeAuto unit as I do you can still listen to the radio via the regular PCM. Hit the Source button and select FM, then you can navigate to the original Porsche stations. Hit Navi and it will switch the screen back to Carplay but the audio will still be the PCM. Just a bit of a juggle when you get a phone call and have to go back to Source and switch back to Aux. 

How long did the job take you @MFX?

[MFX]

8 minutes ago, DieRooiGevaar said:

How long did the job take you @MFX?

2-3 hours. 

[DieRooiGevaar]

7 minutes ago, MFX said:

2-3 hours. 

Thanks. Puts PR tech's estimate of 6 hours into perspective...

[MFX]

3 hours ago, DieRooiGevaar said:

Thanks. Puts PR tech's estimate of 6 hours into perspective...

If I did it again, now I know what to do, it would probably only take about 45 mins to an hour.

[tomo]

On 30/07/2024 at 16:35, MFX said:

If I did it again, now I know what to do, it would probably only take about 45 mins to an hour.

Geezze that makes PR Tech look a bit crook.🤔