Fishcop Posted 26February, 2021 Report Share Posted 26February, 2021 So today I learned that the 996 C4S exhaust is 'just a bit different' from the C2 😕 I grabbed this pair of s/h Millie Miglia stainless steel cans from Daniel at DParts. I cleaned them up this week with some steel wool and polish ready to install today - but after pulling my originals out, I find that the tips are in the wrong spot for the C4S/Turbo rear bumper (and are not adjustable). FML. They are in good used condition - heat blemished and have a little rattle (like there is a small amount of gravel in them). Tips are lovely and highly polished. I have not run them, can't tell you how loud or obnoxious they are - but on the few Youtube vids I could find, they seemed civilised. I know I could get them adjusted etc... but CBF. So offered up here first - Asking $1k which is what I just paid - plus a heap of elbow grease. Located in Port Macquarie but can freight (to give you an idea, I just paid $80 for freight from Melbourne). Thanks for looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonk Posted 26February, 2021 Report Share Posted 26February, 2021 Weird! My Fisters off my C2 are now on a C4S. Maybe they were ok because of the adjustable tips? The exhaust manufacturer s certainly don’t differentiate between the two models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel Posted 26February, 2021 Report Share Posted 26February, 2021 Bring em too Luft - start of the boot sale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishcop Posted 26February, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 26February, 2021 54 minutes ago, Simonk said: Weird! My Fisters off my C2 are now on a C4S. Maybe they were ok because of the adjustable tips? The exhaust manufacturer s certainly don’t differentiate between the two models. Originals have an articulation point which I suspect either adjusts or allows for different tips depending on the model and fister/gundo will make no difference. But the C2 exit point is definitely wider than the C4 on the bumpers, so adjustment is necessary. Easy on originals. 14 minutes ago, michel said: Bring em too Luft - start of the boot sale I am already going to have a pretty full car, but I could bring them if someone commits to buying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnage Posted 27February, 2021 Report Share Posted 27February, 2021 Hi John From memory the actual exhaust muffler is the same for C2 & 4S the difference on the last photo above is the pipe (length & shape) which carries the Tips. I did a PSE mod/hack on my old C4S which is essentially a "j" shaped pipe welded to the blanked hole on the left (opened obviously) & cut into the middle pipe at the elbow and welded. Wider the pipe louder the noise. Cost me less than $300 at local shop here in Cairns (drop off). Good sound. Using your last pic as ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishcop Posted 27February, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 27February, 2021 2 hours ago, Arnage said: Hi John From memory the actual exhaust muffler is the same for C2 & 4S the difference on the last photo above is the pipe (length & shape) which carries the Tips. I did a PSE mod/hack on my old C4S which is essentially a "j" shaped pipe welded to the blanked hole on the left (opened obviously) & cut into the middle pipe at the elbow and welded. Wider the pipe louder the noise. Cost me less than $300 at local shop here in Cairns (drop off). Good sound. Using your last pic as ref. Yep, that's what I worked out - but the Millie Miglia don't have the exit pipe pivot like original. I have a welder and can weld etc... but I was hoping for just a straight bolt on change over There are many more C2s than C4Ss so I'll try to move these and recover my costs. Then I may think about the gundo/fister thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911CSR Posted 1March, 2021 Report Share Posted 1March, 2021 Sorry I know you said you were gogin to move these on, however IMHO you;d be much better off adjusting these. I have the IPE exhaust on my C4S and they sent the wrong tips. The difference is only the tips and everythgin else is the same. And that difference is marginal at best in terms of distance. As you noted, you could work out a fix and the stainless MM mufflers will be better than the older stock items. Same amount of less work than the Gundo hack too I woudl imagine. Sorry, just adding to the peanut gallery commentary.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishcop Posted 1March, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 1March, 2021 1 hour ago, 911CSR said: Sorry I know you said you were gogin to move these on, however IMHO you;d be much better off adjusting these. I have the IPE exhaust on my C4S and they sent the wrong tips. The difference is only the tips and everythgin else is the same. And that difference is marginal at best in terms of distance. As you noted, you could work out a fix and the stainless MM mufflers will be better than the older stock items. Same amount of less work than the Gundo hack too I woudl imagine. Sorry, just adding to the peanut gallery commentary.. Perhaps you're right. I'll look into it I guess... Just a bit worried about finding a decent local tradie. 911CSR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911CSR Posted 2March, 2021 Report Share Posted 2March, 2021 I hear you, but the work is pretty small and if you have or want to use the standard tips, it might be easier than you think. By cutting off the current tips, keeping the pipe as long as possible, you may be able to use the the standard tips in a slide joint type arrangement. If not then a good fab operator should simply be able cut and extend the pipe work to accomodate the slightly different mounting in the C4S wide body over a stock C2/C4 narrow body Fishcop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishcop Posted 28April, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 28April, 2021 Bumping these back up - I managed to find another set of mufflers to suit my C4S So to reiterate, these are for the 996 C2 - the outlet isn't adjustable (the difference is in the distance between the outlets on the C2 and C4S). I'll also drop the price to $800 plus shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidmarks Posted 28April, 2021 Report Share Posted 28April, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fishcop said: Bumping these back up - I managed to find another set of mufflers to suit my C4S So to reiterate, these are for the 996 C2 - the outlet isn't adjustable (the difference is in the distance between the outlets on the C2 and C4S). I'll also drop the price to $800 plus shipping. You need a car cover. Fishcop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishcop Posted 28April, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 28April, 2021 12 minutes ago, Skidmarks said: You need a car cover. I was looking veeeery closely I do have a nice non OEM I use, but it was for my old AC car an is a bit tight on the water pumper. Perhaps if I move these... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidmarks Posted 28April, 2021 Report Share Posted 28April, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fishcop said: I was looking veeeery closely I do have a nice non OEM I use, but it was for my old AC car an is a bit tight on the water pumper. Perhaps if I move these... Mine won’t make the back of your car look like a plumbers arse. Just saying ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishcop Posted 28April, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 28April, 2021 5 minutes ago, Skidmarks said: Mine won’t make the back of your car look like a plumbers arse. Just saying ... I was more thinking a pair of 38DDs in an A cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidmarks Posted 28April, 2021 Report Share Posted 28April, 2021 9 minutes ago, Fishcop said: I was more thinking a pair of 38DDs in an A cup Whatever gets you buying ... Fishcop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luzzo Posted 28April, 2021 Report Share Posted 28April, 2021 3 hours ago, Fishcop said: I managed to find another set of mufflers to suit my C4S hmm... do tell..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishcop Posted 29April, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 29April, 2021 20 hours ago, luzzo said: hmm... do tell..? Pair of Cargraphic copies popped up on ebay (can't find any branding), so I grabbed them - they have the factory type exhaust flange so my original C4S ends bolted up perfectly. I fitted them up yesterday and they seem okay, but I haven't had a proper drive. If they're awful at least the factory units are out of the car and I can gundo/fister them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishcop Posted 5May, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 5May, 2021 Looks like I have these sold. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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