tazzieman Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Now you can legally break the law in Tassy I am not convinced that this will not result in tears. No they did not use my 928 to profile that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV911 Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 As both a cyclist and motorist, I like this idea As it is drivers do one of two things: cross the line anyway; or pass too close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJames Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Rulemakers in shock common sense approach! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGB Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 As a cyclist, motorcyclist, motorist and speedboat pilot I find it entertaining that cartoons are produced to dispense common sense. Passing an obstruction via solid or double lines has always been ok in Victoria, key word being obstruction. Not another motorist doing 9km/h less than oneself. Don't get me f@#*^ started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJM Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Common sense approach. It will never work. Sense is not that common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 I agree Bill, there's nothing common about common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 26February, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Common sense got rebadged as OH&S btw I mentioned this road change in a group setting today and got attacked by a rabid "it's NEVER the cyclists FAULT!" woman. Nothing I could say in a calm , logical manner would appease her RAGE. I'm scared of cyclists, because unlike bikies they don't look tough - but may be slightly psychotic . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 OH&S, don't get me started on that, i'm all for it by the way, but yesterday a Russian metallurgist, that we call "the meerkat", theatened to sack me for not having my top button done up on my work shirt, loosen up pal, where's the common sense in that! F$%k me what's the world turning into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 26February, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 OH&S, don't get me started on that, i'm all for it by the way, but yesterday a Russian metallurgist, that we call "the meerkat", theatened to sack me for not having my top button done up on my work shirt, loosen up pal, where's the common sense in that! F$%k me what's the world turning into. But you will void the terms of your company inshoooorance policy , simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 There is a 30 odd klm section of awesome driving, riding road in my area that is ALL marked with unbroken centre lines. If you don't cross it to pass a cyclist you would have to do their speed for the entire trip. Common sense....dahhhh. Cyclists should have a rego plate and be required to carry identification. The cowboy's are spoiling it for the rest. Which is common across all drivers/riders. Make it happen... everyone on the road needs to be accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Cyclists should have a rego plate and be required to carry identification. The cowboy's are spoiling it for the rest. Which is common across all drivers/riders. Make it happen... everyone on the road needs to be accountable. This thread made sense until now, there's always at least 1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Rego for cyclists... A splendid idea until you do the maths... Quite simply, the cost to employ enough bureaucrats to keep it going would be horrific, some say 10x the cost of income received, let alone setting it up to realise its for a problem that is what exactly? a few seconds lost because what is essentially another car owner riding a bike is half in your way and you can't safely/immediately pass them? Patience is a virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 26February, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Patience is a virtue. With the rise of the bicycling baby boomer silverback , the pensioner's life you save may be your grandfather's Anger has recently been shown to increase risk of heart attack 8 fold. Thus anger is illogical, OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 This thread made sense until now, there's always at least 1! I have heard three accounts now of where a cyclist has done damage to cars and given false details to the owner. If you happen to be the cyclist, not too bad. If you happen to own the car and left with the bill not so nice. Btw... I don't hate cyclists, I am one at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Rego for cyclists... A splendid idea until you do the maths... Quite simply, the cost to employ enough bureaucrats to keep it going would be horrific, some say 10x the cost of income received, let alone setting it up to realise its for a problem that is what exactly? a few seconds lost because what is essentially another car owner riding a bike is half in your way and you can't safely/immediately pass them? Patience is a virtue. You presume much sir, I am patient and respectful of other road users no matter what they choose. I was pointing out that if you obeyed the law not to overtake over unbroken lines you would be very frustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 I have heard three accounts now of where a cyclist has done damage to cars and given false details to the owner. If you happen to be the cyclist, not too bad. If you happen to own the car and left with the bill not so nice. Btw... I don't hate cyclists, I am one at times. Everyone has ID, you don't need registration to identify people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV911 Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Cyclists should have a rego plate and be required to carry identification. ah that old doozy you'd be mad not to carry ID say in case of an accident. Rego for cyclists... A splendid idea until you do the maths... Quite simply, the cost to employ enough bureaucrats to keep it going would be horrific, some say 10x the cost of income received You forgot the bit about the cops having to catch you in the act to book you for something and a citizen dobbing someone in will just result in a, "yea we'll look into that" or, "it's your word against his" response from the cops. Rego on cars has proven ineffective at getting people to obey the road rules so why would it work on bikes? Cyclists are just a cross section of society so you will get the odd knob who runs red lights, just as drivers do...and speed, fail to indicate, drive under the influence etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Firstone - apologies, I only intend to presume that cyclist rego isn't the answer. There's a minority of crumbs behind the wheel and behind the handlebars (agree cyclists are often far from innocent) but how far do you go to penalise the majority for the simple act of riding a push bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstone Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 No offence taken. At the least, some law to carry Id. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Speedway Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 I collect bikes, I'm not even sure anybody including myself know how many I have. I'm embarrassed to tell certain groups of people, around here they are seen as obtuse, ignorant and self centered. Mainly because they are. Every now and then you will find a solo rider that makes every effort to accommodate the cars, but it's rare. There is a group here called the Blah blah veterans blah blah bike club. They are some of the worst riders on the road. On most Sundays you will find them standing around in the middle of T junctions bragging to each other about how light their drink bottle holder is. Many of them cant hold a straight line. They ride at 5kph in huge packs on very windy major roads in 80kph and 100kph zones. Then they have the nerve to have a car (somebodies wife) follow them that straddles the double white line preventing anybody passing. They have a rotating orange beacon on the roof of the car and they think they own the road. When electric cars become common place you will find the road toll on cyclists will go up. Don't get me started on horse people with horse floats! ARRRRRG If you have enough time to drive at half the speed limit, you have enough time to pull over and let the 6 cars behind you past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Speedway Posted 26February, 2015 Report Share Posted 26February, 2015 Am I a bad man for laughing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SLlBpdbhy8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV911 Posted 27February, 2015 Report Share Posted 27February, 2015 would you still be laughing if one of those dudes was your dad, brother or son? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Speedway Posted 27February, 2015 Report Share Posted 27February, 2015 obviously I am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 27February, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 27February, 2015 Actually I used to find it pretty nauseating on any reasonably busy road ; at odds with the healthy lifestyle I was pursuing. Even relatively modern diesel cars and those with bad cats leave one inhaling rotten egg and sulphurous fumes which can't be all that good for you. I suppose that's one negative of not having a RWC in Tas. On another note , chatting whilst riding two abreast is not far off texting whilst driving as something that might cause grief. And to put the cat amongst the pigeons , electric cars will not be heard approaching in the future; will drivers ring a little bell on the steering wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Posted 27February, 2015 Report Share Posted 27February, 2015 Am I a bad man for laughing? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SLlBpdbhy8 I had to laugh... a bit... ...but I'm not proud Almost as bad as the time I was out riding with a mate, pulled through an intersection to find someone had strewn thumb tacks across the cycle lane and 4 of them ended up in my rear tyre. Slow leak so I pull over to fix it, my friend was spared. About a kilometre up the road I realise my front tyre also copped a few and was slowly losing pressure so again I pull over, off the road and onto the foot path by a major intersection to repair it as well. I was mid-way through the tube swap when for some reason I looked up only to see a half eaten bread roll flying through the air, aimed directly at my head coming from a tradies ute that was driving past. I dodged it reminiscent of George W Bush ducking a flying shoe in Iraq and it hit the fence behind me with a thwack! My mate and I were in stitches! I mean really! Who throws a bread roll!?!? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an0bVaTjF_Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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