Carrera86 Posted 4August, 2013 Report Share Posted 4August, 2013 Hi Guys , new to this forum , looking to buy a (911 Carrera 3.0 pref) or a 2.7 1975 to 78 I think that's the year range , reports say the 3.0 is a better car , thanks Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 4August, 2013 Report Share Posted 4August, 2013 Hi Paul, Maybe worth a read through these; Cant seem to find the thread on BenC3's search - that was a good one also. Generally the 3.0L engines are preferable (1975 Carrera 2.7 is an exception!). Best of luck with your search, there are a few out there at the moment. Most of the guys on here will know them or know of them. Cheers, Hugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 4August, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 4August, 2013 Thanks Hugh , found a few 3.0 L cars some a bit on the high side $ any one know much about this one , only thing the kms a bit high ? http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1976/SSE-AD-951360/ This is a genuine, Australian delivered 3.0 Carrera coupe with matching numbers. 3 owners since new (Current since 2003). It is one of only 100 (35 of the '76 model) delivered between 1976/77. This car has done just over 272,000 kms, but is in excellent, original condition throughout and has been fastidiously maintained (receipts as evidence). All offers considered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarreraG50 Posted 4August, 2013 Report Share Posted 4August, 2013 Hi Paul,Just to be sure, are you after a Carrera 3 or an SC, considerable difference in price.cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C3.o Posted 4August, 2013 Report Share Posted 4August, 2013 Hi Paul, Welcome to PFA. Here is my search thread for a 1976 Carrera 3.0, it has some information on the white Carrera 3.0 you have linked above. Apart from driving/flying up to QLD to inspect it for myself I looked very closely at Seldon's car, PPI, research etc. I still haven't seen it in the flesh but it was down to the one I bought and that one in the end. The KM aren't that high really when you work out it is only 7300ish km per year and the price is in the ball park of what you will be looking at for a 76-77 Carrera 3.0lt in that sort of condition. An original Carrera 3.0lt sold for 40k a few months ago, hadn't run in 10+ years, original paint and interior etc but still sold in a matter of days. Good luck with your search. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SM911 Posted 4August, 2013 Report Share Posted 4August, 2013 found a few 3.0 L cars some a bit on the high side $ any one know much about this one , only thing the kms a bit high ? Paul, Don't let high km put you off too much. These cars are seriously built like tanks (Germans are good at building those too), so 200k is not an issue provided they've been maintained properly along the way. A PPI will tell you if it hasn't. Also, if you don't want to pay high $ then something has to give... If you dont want to pay stratospheric dollars for a C3.0, go for a higher Km one. And don't forget these cars are approaching 40 years old, so a 200k car has done around 10k a year. I know the car you're asking about, and it's definitely worth a look. Is in great condition. PM me if you want a PPI recommendation- have a guy on the southside who knows these cars inside out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 5August, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 5August, 2013 Hi Ben , The White Carrera 3.0L in QLD , you were saying you lost interest when the PPI came back ? one never knows , haven't seen any others on Carsales of late thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 5August, 2013 Report Share Posted 5August, 2013 What did you think of this one? http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1977/AGC-AD-12985938/ Cheaper than the others largely because it's not Australian delivered. I've been looking out for a C3.o for the last few months and the best ones seem to be modified for track work with half or full cages, different seats etc. Guess it comes back to what is important to you but don't hold your breath is the only considered advice I can give you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 5August, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 5August, 2013 What did you think of this one? http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Porsche-911-Carrera-1977/AGC-AD-12985938/ Cheaper than the others largely because it's not Australian delivered. I've been looking out for a C3.o for the last few months and the best ones seem to be modified for track work with half or full cages, different seats etc. Guess it comes back to what is important to you but don't hold your breath is the only considered advice I can give you! Price looks ok ,Kms great not sure on the colour hmmm also service history ?, does it make a big diff to the price if its not AU delivery ? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted 5August, 2013 Report Share Posted 5August, 2013 G'day Paul I'll try not to give you advice, but more share my experiences in buying a 911, which I did a few months ago. I found the 911's for sale at the time generally fell into 3 categories: The basket case/come project car - $10-20k - I did not want to take on somthing that did not have the time, money or inclanation to be working on for months before i could drive it but maybe 10 years ago i would have. The original low km (still around 150km) and rarely driven pristine garage ornament $70K +++ - would have loved to have one but the budget would not stretch and I probably would have been scared to drive it:) The older restoration/refurbishment - $35-45K - higher Kms, had a lot of work done and will need more but at least you can use it. If you've done your research (which asking questions on here is part of) you know the obvious things to look for history,invoices, how long has the seller owned it etc. I was quite specific in what I wanted, but had to compromise in the end. I was watching the market for 12 months and seriously looked for nearly six months before I bought the car. Did I pay too much? at the time of the deal i thought is was a fair price and 3 months later I'd probably say a tad too much. CarSales,Carpoint etc. shows the asking price, not the selling price so it's is not indicative of what these cars actually sell for. Even the trade price guides are only a guide and I would debate whether there is even sufficient data on these cars to provide a realistic price range. I know my way around a car, and I used my common sense so when your gut tells you somethings wrong, it probably is. If your not technically minded then get someone who is to help you and do as much research as possible. If a seller tells you they have loads of people interested so you'd better be quick, just ask then so why have you had it advertised for six months? Good cars that are sensibly priced do sell quickly, there are good cars out there but the seller just wants too much and there are bad cars out there that seller still want too much. I was prepared and would have preferred to go over budget for a better car, than pay less for a car i had to do work on but that was me. As you will see from this forum and other similar one like it, Porsche owners are passionate about there cars and particular model. you will get plenty of genuine advise here but it's up to you if you take it. After all that, the experience of hunting down the right Porsche (for me) and then buying and driving it... Priceless These are my experiences and my interpretations Paul, the figures i gave are not necessarily what you would see this week but as you know the used car market is fluid. I hope this helps. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 5August, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 5August, 2013 G'day Paul I'll try not to give you advice, but more share my experiences in buying a 911, which I did a few months ago. I found the 911's for sale at the time generally fell into 3 categories: The basket case/come project car - $10-20k - I did not want to take on somthing that did not have the time, money or inclanation to be working on for months before i could drive it but maybe 10 years ago i would have. The original low km (still around 150km) and rarely driven pristine garage ornament $70K +++ - would have loved to have one but the budget would not stretch and I probably would have been scared to drive it:) The older restoration/refurbishment - $35-45K - higher Kms, had a lot of work done and will need more but at least you can use it. If you've done your research (which asking questions on here is part of) you know the obvious things to look for history,invoices, how long has the seller owned it etc. I was quite specific in what I wanted, but had to compromise in the end. I was watching the market for 12 months and seriously looked for nearly six months before I bought the car. Did I pay too much? at the time of the deal i thought is was a fair price and 3 months later I'd probably say a tad too much. CarSales,Carpoint etc. shows the asking price, not the selling price so it's is not indicative of what these cars actually sell for. Even the trade price guides are only a guide and I would debate whether there is even sufficient data on these cars to provide a realistic price range. I know my way around a car, and I used my common sense so when your gut tells you somethings wrong, it probably is. If your not technically minded then get someone who is to help you and do as much research as possible. If a seller tells you they have loads of people interested so you'd better be quick, just ask then so why have you had it advertised for six months? Good cars that are sensibly priced do sell quickly, there are good cars out there but the seller just wants too much and there are bad cars out there that seller still want too much. I was prepared and would have preferred to go over budget for a better car, than pay less for a car i had to do work on but that was me. As you will see from this forum and other similar one like it, Porsche owners are passionate about there cars and particular model. you will get plenty of genuine advise here but it's up to you if you take it. After all that, the experience of hunting down the right Porsche (for me) and then buying and driving it... Priceless These are my experiences and my interpretations Paul, the figures i gave are not necessarily what you would see this week but as you know the used car market is fluid. I hope this helps. Mike Thanks Mike , Not in a rush to buy , just want to get something special and enjoy it , weekends and Porsche events , don't know how active the Porsche club is in QLD ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian Posted 5August, 2013 Report Share Posted 5August, 2013 Not sure about the QLD Porsche Club as I'm not a member but did meet some of them at Porsche show they held, seamed like a good bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 5August, 2013 Report Share Posted 5August, 2013 Have you seen these? http://www.my105.com/ListingDetails/tabid/65/p/3/k/PORSCHE/id/10272/Default.aspx http://www.my105.com/ListingDetails/tabid/65/p/7/k/PORSCHE/id/6323/Default.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 6August, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 6August, 2013 Thanks for all the feedback , will look at options , hope to find something soon ! The White Porsche in Qld is one to look at but not sure what it will cost to get into top cond , not much out there at the moment .... Regards Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 6August, 2013 Report Share Posted 6August, 2013 ... .not much out there at the moment .... Regards Paul Paul, that was my conclusion too. Consequently I've all but given up on getting a C3.o. There's not much happening with C3.2's either so I'm thinking a 964 or 993 will have to suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 6August, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 6August, 2013 Would you go turbo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZ930 Posted 6August, 2013 Report Share Posted 6August, 2013 Here is a lucky story, 5 years ago, a long time friend always wanted a Porsche, particularly the 930 but never eventuated and consoled himself to waiting until he retired and see what happens. He was at a family function in his home town in very central, far north-west NSW and was talking to a relative who had a Carrera 3.0, Australian delivered, no sunroof, all original, high miles, engine and gearbox had been refreshed not too long ago........and wanted to sell it. Price, I believe was around $35k. The car showed some interior wear, some stone chips not excessive but all original, including paint. So here is a bloke, with a young family, mortgage, all the costly options and this Porsche C3.0 lands in his lap. After about a month of deliberating and a push from his good wife it now lives in his garage, when he's not driving it of course They are out there and the car ads may not be where it happens. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C3.o Posted 7August, 2013 Report Share Posted 7August, 2013 They are out there and the car ads may not be where it happens. Very true. I found mine through calling Porsche service specialists and asking if they new of any customers with a 1976 Carrera 3.0 that might consider selling. Two places new of a car each, they were more than willing to contact the owners for me and pass on my information for them to contact me should they be willing to sell. The other thing I would be doing is once you narrow down the car you are after and have the funds organised and your hot to trot place WTB ads in the Porsche Clubs magazines and websites, its free from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C3.o Posted 7August, 2013 Report Share Posted 7August, 2013 Also C3's are sort after and are not going to be easy to find nor will good ones last long. Once word got out the previous owner of my car was thinking of selling a couple of used car specialists were contacting him asking if they could purchase the car or sell on consignment for him. They were also contacting me saying they had found one but were waiting for more details. I learnt then that the Porsche circle in Australia is very small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 7August, 2013 Report Share Posted 7August, 2013 ....place WTB ads in the Porsche Clubs magazines and websites, its free from memory. You're spot on again Ben and I'll do that at the end of this month. I've also been meaning to drop in and see Simon at Autowerks too since I work nearby now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C3.o Posted 7August, 2013 Report Share Posted 7August, 2013 Do that Pete, maybe he knows of an orange or green IB that a customer is thinking of selling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 7August, 2013 Report Share Posted 7August, 2013 Do that Pete, maybe he knows of an orange or green IB that a customer is thinking of selling. or something else interesting....I'm easy! I guess I just have to ask and I might be pleasantly surprised just like you were! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera86 Posted 9August, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 9August, 2013 The 993 s 2 is nice to but prices are up there , turbo seems to be the pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben C3.o Posted 9August, 2013 Report Share Posted 9August, 2013 The White Porsche in Qld is one to look at but not sure what it will cost to get into top cond , not much out there at the moment .... Given you're not overly far from Brissy I would be going down and looking at Sheldon's car in the flesh if I was you. From all reports it presents extremely well. From my conversations with Sheldon and feedback from others there is nothing that needs doing straight away with his car. A respray is on the cards at some time in the future and given the age of them and depending how perfect you would like your car I think most C3's will need one to be close to perfect. I know mine does to be perfect. Regarding cost, I have been quoted 15-20k from Zag down here, plus rubbers and any repairs required. 7k for a re-trim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-banger Posted 9August, 2013 Report Share Posted 9August, 2013 Given you're not overly far from Brissy I would be going down and looking at Sheldon's car in the flesh if I was you. From all reports it presents extremely well. From my conversations with Sheldon and feedback from others there is nothing that needs doing straight away with his car.Why has that car been on the market so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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