brian in buddina Posted 9February, 2018 Report Share Posted 9February, 2018 https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/terrigal/cars-vans-utes/rare-1963-chevrolet-corvair-spyder-monza-turbo-900-coupe/1168615469 Any owners here. I think the 64 plus MY is gorgeous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micknine01 Posted 9February, 2018 Report Share Posted 9February, 2018 Pretty cool ride, but I think I would find it strange to drive a big tank with a flat 6 singing behind me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhead Posted 9February, 2018 Report Share Posted 9February, 2018 Ralph Nader Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 9February, 2018 Report Share Posted 9February, 2018 I've got a soft spot for the later series too. I found this interesting: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian in buddina Posted 9February, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 9February, 2018 The second generation starting in 65 MY did away with that swing axle and the handling issue. For a yank tank is was modest in size. Any PFA members with one or experience with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr356 Posted 9February, 2018 Report Share Posted 9February, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian in buddina Posted 9February, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 9February, 2018 @jnr356 come on tell us a story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr356 Posted 9February, 2018 Report Share Posted 9February, 2018 65 corsa monza,been in the shed since 74 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 10February, 2018 Report Share Posted 10February, 2018 Love it, coveted one of them for a while, thought seriously about one a few years ago. Great looking cars! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okrasa Kid Posted 10February, 2018 Report Share Posted 10February, 2018 The Kids says The second and final iteration of the corvair coupe is a much prettier design and largely cured the cars suicidal handling tendencies By that time however Nader poisoned the car.....Pity They also made a wagon version.....fugly and commercials................ Greenbriars van a now a cool and reasonably priced alternative to the uber expensive VW splitty, also a pick up with a unique side loading gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr356 Posted 10February, 2018 Report Share Posted 10February, 2018 pick up is known as a rampside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian in buddina Posted 10February, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 10February, 2018 @jnr356 any plans to restore it? Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr356 Posted 10February, 2018 Report Share Posted 10February, 2018 yes hopefully the end of this year or next year a heap of nos parts were purchased in the late 70's including h/light surrounds,bow tie ,etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 10February, 2018 Report Share Posted 10February, 2018 The whole Ralph Nader thing guarantees future collectibility of these. They aren’t that big for a 60s American car. It was a ‘compact’ in the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr356 Posted 10February, 2018 Report Share Posted 10February, 2018 about the size of a camaro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELSPORTO Posted 26February, 2018 Report Share Posted 26February, 2018 factory RHD Jnr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr356 Posted 27February, 2018 Report Share Posted 27February, 2018 think it may have been an evaluation car,haven't delved too much into it's history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELSPORTO Posted 27February, 2018 Report Share Posted 27February, 2018 Either way it's awesome - doesn't look like it would take a lot to get back on the road as a very original driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian in buddina Posted 5March, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 5March, 2018 who built the first flat 6 air cooled motor in a Porsche? https://www.excellence-mag.com/issues/234/articles/didn-t-porsche-design-the-corvair?page=1#.Wp0Zx-smKrU read it and weep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 5March, 2018 Report Share Posted 5March, 2018 Interesting read, thanks for posting. This paragraph is somewhat ironic: The many travails of the Corvair as released for the 1960 model year are well known. Mistakes were leaving off the front anti-roll bar to save money and allowing the proportion of weight on the rear wheels to rise too high, something that Ferdinand Porsche controlled rigorously in his designs. Steering response was too slow, deliberately so people would not excite it too much—not a good decision. The requirement for sharply differing tire pressures front and rear did not accord with American ideas of car maintenance. It was a actually a GM engineer Zora Arkus - Duntov who actually introduced Porsche to the concept of a skidpan for testing and front sway bars in the first place! (He actually successfully drove for Porsche at Lemans a couple of times in the late 50's and this, with his previous engineering work for other companies gave him credibility with Ferry. Interesting guy who became best know for his later work on the C2 and C3 Corvettes. ) Duntov was also the guy who suggested the staggered tyre pressures as a way of mitigating the Corvair handling issue at no additional cost to GM when they were unwilling to spend the extra 10 bucks or so per car for the camber compensation bar that would have tamed the swing axle rear end. He also was the inspiration for the for the much improved rear suspension - based on his unusual but clever Corvette design - for the second series of Corvairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 5March, 2018 Report Share Posted 5March, 2018 Despite the hate , it is still a cool car , esp for you northern suburbs types who cant fight your way out of the city And for those bristly guys who manage to escape to the mountains , it's all been done before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 5March, 2018 Report Share Posted 5March, 2018 http://www.nytimes.com/1997/04/06/nyregion/the-poor-man-s-classic-car.html “European car aficionados tend to view them favorably, with some even comparing them to early Porsche 911s (another car that has skyrocketed in value).Although it’s unlikely that Corvair prices will truly follow in the footsteps of the 911, the much-maligned cars are only going to go up as more people realize that they offer a great combination of good looks, technical interest and value. “ https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/10-cars-that-were-just-too-dangerous-to-drive.html/?a=viewall “Porsche took a bad idea and refined it to brilliance. Not only is the 911’s engine in the back of the car, it’s so far behind the rear axle that even the slightest miscalculation could cause dangerous oversteer, sending you hurtling backwards into oncoming traffic. Porsche engineers first tried to solve the car’s weight imbalance by putting iron weights in the front bumpers of early cars. By the early ’70s, the 911’s iconic “whale tail” spoiler and front air dam did wonders to keep the car planted to the ground at speed. Today, a fantastic all-wheel drive system and traction control have ironed out most of the modern 911’s homicidal urges, but while the older cars are achingly gorgeous, they’re undeniably dangerous, too.” --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 6March, 2018 Report Share Posted 6March, 2018 ""911's homicidal urges"" iconic phrase! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter M Posted 6March, 2018 Report Share Posted 6March, 2018 7 hours ago, tazzieman said: https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles/10-cars-that-were-just-too-dangerous-to-drive.html/?a=viewall “Porsche took a bad idea and refined it to brilliance. Not only is the 911’s engine in the back of the car, it’s so far behind the rear axle that even the slightest miscalculation could cause dangerous oversteer, sending you hurtling backwards into oncoming traffic. Porsche engineers first tried to solve the car’s weight imbalance by putting iron weights in the front bumpers of early cars. By the early ’70s, the 911’s iconic “whale tail” spoiler and front air dam did wonders to keep the car planted to the ground at speed. Today, a fantastic all-wheel drive system and traction control have ironed out most of the modern 911’s homicidal urges, but while the older cars are achingly gorgeous, they’re undeniably dangerous, too.” --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What absolute bullshit from beginning to end. Let's bang out some internet filler in 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 6March, 2018 Report Share Posted 6March, 2018 Dentist's wives found they were widowmakers The iron weights bit was rather embarrassing , given the engineering prowess of the company. Mind you they were making aerofoils for the lethal 917 in 1969 using tinsnips and duct tape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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