Pauly Posted 3December, 2013 Report Share Posted 3December, 2013 It can't be that expensive? Gaskets are 5-600 at kit. there are no reasons to replace valves or springs or anything like that unless they're damaged. Getting charged porsche labour rates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Tony Posted 3December, 2013 Report Share Posted 3December, 2013 Are these things cheaper than the 3.2 to rebuild!!! I've been told and read a top end for a 3.2 is around $15k. Makes $8k sound cheap. I think if the pistons and cylinders can't be saved the expense for those is high to get new ones. Probably around 5k or so I think. Include the other possible wear components, while you're in there's and labour, I'd imagine the cost can be exponential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronBayChris Posted 6December, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 6December, 2013 Apparently the motor has been out previously buy an owner who "knew" what he was doing. That is why it has a join in the timing chain where 993 cannot. That is also why it has some 964 bits where 993 specific bits should go. Jocaro said it looks as though the prior owner wanted it to go faster, but made it go slower. Remember that it did come with wheels wider thanks the rear of the car. No such thing as a cheap Porsche, huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 6December, 2013 Report Share Posted 6December, 2013 Sorry to hear this Chris. Bummer indeed. On the bright side, once you do the rebuild.. it's done and there's nothing left to worry about if all else is strong. No such a thing as a cheap Porsche - we've heard that a lot around here eh? : P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-p Posted 6December, 2013 Report Share Posted 6December, 2013 Chris, I was at Jocaro today getting Ann's Yaris serviced and yes it's been played with before by the sounds of it. 964 cams which aren't compatible with the hydraulic actuators so it's almost a wonder it went at all. Gosh you will notice a big difference when it's back together that's for sure.... Oh and mine is there on Tuesday for its annual check up so they can keep each other company for a few days... C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabloau Posted 7December, 2013 Report Share Posted 7December, 2013 You won't be selling it after the work Chris, it is worth the short term pain believe me........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Man Posted 7December, 2013 Report Share Posted 7December, 2013 Chris, I was at Jocaro today getting Ann's Yaris serviced and yes it's been played with before by the sounds of it. 964 cams which aren't compatible with the hydraulic actuators so it's almost a wonder it went at all. Gosh you will notice a big difference when it's back together that's for sure.... Oh and mine is there on Tuesday for its annual check up so they can keep each other company for a few days... C Did they actually say there were 964 cams in there??? I find that incredibly difficult to believe unless the rockers were changed also. I believe the earlier 993s had 964 sprockets, but there is NO way those cams will run suitably enough for the motor. You can run a hydraulic cam in a solid set up hut not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-p Posted 7December, 2013 Report Share Posted 7December, 2013 Yep absolutely did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabloau Posted 7December, 2013 Report Share Posted 7December, 2013 Unreal - never thought that was possible...... <insert profanity here> P.O. needs a date with the Hague - Crimes against Porsche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronBayChris Posted 7December, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 7December, 2013 My only saving grace......it is number 2 993 in Australia and it was very cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 10December, 2013 Report Share Posted 10December, 2013 Chris, I was at Jocaro today getting Ann's Yaris serviced and yes it's been played with before by the sounds of it. 964 cams which aren't compatible with the hydraulic actuators so it's almost a wonder it went at all. Gosh you will notice a big difference when it's back together that's for sure.... Oh and mine is there on Tuesday for its annual check up so they can keep each other company for a few days... C Would a PPI have picked up this? Obviously a compression test would show low compression.. but could the compression have been ok when Chris first got the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-p Posted 10December, 2013 Report Share Posted 10December, 2013 The compression based on the findings on tear down would have been that way for a long time..... So yes a PPI would have picked up a problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine93 Posted 10December, 2013 Report Share Posted 10December, 2013 Sad news Chris, saw your car today sans engine and hope the costs of the rebuild don't turn it into a not so cheap car. It was like family day at the mechanics today, Chris's, yours and my 993 all hanging around the workshop. The guys at Jocaro certainly know their eggs but it's what's been done and not to your engine could be costly. Have they given you an idea of costs yet? Kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronBayChris Posted 10December, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 10December, 2013 I am happy so far, as I get a nice rebuilt engine as the end result. Cost......mid teens is best guess Still has not broken the bank or banker, as it was a low cost starting point Hope to get it back by Christmas, as we are leaving to Byron Bay. Question. Should I undertake a 2,000km trip of mainly highway driving with this rebuilt engine or do I need to "run it in". after spending my hard earned, I don't want to stuff it up. Open to suggestions as usual. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch-monkey Posted 10December, 2013 Report Share Posted 10December, 2013 follow whatever your engine builder suggests. i personally would not do a straight highway drive as i have always been told not to let a fresh built engine sit at the same rpm, but to vary the rpm and put it under load where possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronBayChris Posted 10December, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 10December, 2013 And my thoughts about selling and upgrading or keeping.....that is now a "no brainer". Looks like I have just decided what I will give my 1 year old when he turns 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine93 Posted 10December, 2013 Report Share Posted 10December, 2013 Chris, it might be a 150k car again by then. If not he's going to be one lucky little P - plater. Are you doing any upgrades to the motor while you are there, titanium bits that will last longer etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tit Posted 10December, 2013 Report Share Posted 10December, 2013 I'm wrestling with this too as I have to drive back to Canberra. Planning to go down the coast to get varying speeds. Dempseys book talks about the engine builder initially running the engine at mid rpm for 20 min then dropping the oil. When you get it you're apparently supposed drive around 1000km at varying revs up to 5000rpm (but not baby it too much). This is mainly to seat the rings properly and get the rocker arms and cam set in. Plus you'll probably have to drop the oil again after about 1000km. Dempsey even recommendeds redoing the valve clearances after the break in, but that's a nontrivial bit of work. But I think most engine builders have different opinions on the break in process. I am happy so far, as I get a nice rebuilt engine as the end result. Cost......mid teens is best guess Still has not broken the bank or banker, as it was a low cost starting point Hope to get it back by Christmas, as we are leaving to Byron Bay. Question. Should I undertake a 2,000km trip of mainly highway driving with this rebuilt engine or do I need to "run it in". after spending my hard earned, I don't want to stuff it up. Open to suggestions as usual. C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-p Posted 10December, 2013 Report Share Posted 10December, 2013 Chris, Calvin and Darren will guide you on how to break it in. They did for me with the 930 and it ran faultlessly afterwards..... C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnr356 Posted 12December, 2013 Report Share Posted 12December, 2013 I am happy so far, as I get a nice rebuilt engine as the end result. Cost......mid teens is best guess Still has not broken the bank or banker, as it was a low cost starting point Hope to get it back by Christmas, as we are leaving to Byron Bay. Question. Should I undertake a 2,000km trip of mainly highway driving with this rebuilt engine or do I need to "run it in". after spending my hard earned, I don't want to stuff it up. Open to suggestions as usual. C no.find a route with moderate hills etc don't redline it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 12December, 2013 Report Share Posted 12December, 2013 What were the factory guidelines re running it in after initial delivery in Oz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByronBayChris Posted 13December, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 13December, 2013 Calvin said he would run it in for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Man Posted 13December, 2013 Report Share Posted 13December, 2013 Calvin said he would run it in for me ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrest Posted 13December, 2013 Report Share Posted 13December, 2013 no.find a route with moderate hills etc don't redline it +1 on that . Absolutely correct from my stance anyway but you blokes listen to jnr356. He's the guy with the knowledge and no vested interest. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-p Posted 13December, 2013 Report Share Posted 13December, 2013 Did the same when they rebuilt my 930 engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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