hepkat63 Posted 9December, 2014 Report Share Posted 9December, 2014 Does anyone know if there has been a Singer sold in Australia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV911 Posted 9December, 2014 Report Share Posted 9December, 2014 I don't know how comprehensive or up to date it is but there is a list of completed cars on their site. Nothing mentioned about an Aussie car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 9December, 2014 Report Share Posted 9December, 2014 Hot off the press: 1951 SINGER SM1500 4AD ROADSTER FOR SALE $15,000* 1951 SINGER SM1500 4AD ROADSTER good condition, goes excellent, as new condition, 60,000 miles. ROADSTER DUNBOGAN NSW View Details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted 9December, 2014 Report Share Posted 9December, 2014 I really have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepkat63 Posted 9December, 2014 Author Report Share Posted 9December, 2014 Hot off the press: 1951 SINGER SM1500 4AD ROADSTER FOR SALE $15,000* 1951 SINGER SM1500 4AD ROADSTER good condition, goes excellent, as new condition, 60,000 miles. ROADSTER DUNBOGAN NSW View Details LOL... go back to bed ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 9December, 2014 Report Share Posted 9December, 2014 I heard in an interview that they have had Australian enquiries, but didn't mention any deliveries. I think at this point there is a waiting list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepkat63 Posted 9December, 2014 Author Report Share Posted 9December, 2014 I heard in an interview that they have had Australian enquiries, but didn't mention any deliveries. I think at this point there is a waiting list. I wonder if they've even made a RHD version? I would have thought someone in the UK might have bought one. I know we can drive LHD here in Oz now - but if you're paying out that sort of $$ you'd at least want to sit on the right side (pun intended) of the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch-monkey Posted 9December, 2014 Report Share Posted 9December, 2014 they have done a RHD one already i believe, in slate grey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 9December, 2014 Report Share Posted 9December, 2014 Here it is: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 9December, 2014 Report Share Posted 9December, 2014 I wonder if they've even made a RHD version? I would have thought someone in the UK might have bought one. I know we can drive LHD here in Oz now - but if you're paying out that sort of $$ you'd at least want to sit on the right side (pun intended) of the car. They just take your car and put their stuff in. As it must be a 964 you couldn't register it here LHD as they are still too new. It still has the same compliance plate, build date etc. I doubt there is much in their build that couldn't be done in RHD - maybe some of the custom interior parts but that would be easy enough to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 One more right hander: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Man Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 What are the chances of meeting ADR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch-monkey Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 What are the chances of meeting ADR? the base car already meets it so i don't know where there would be issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 A few build pics thanks to Speedhunter: http://www.speedhunters.com/2012/06/where-dreams-come-true-singer-vehicle-design/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 The slate grey one is the 'Indonesia' and my favourite Singer build yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 What are the chances of meeting ADR? There would be no issues with ADR, but you might have to get an inspection based on state rules. I'm not sure if the engine case is replaced (and hence number) - I think I heard that the case is the only thing they keep, and in that a case it's not even an engine swap. But depending if you get a cage or anything like that - the laws are different regarding modifications. Otherwise if you took a RHD complianced car and sent to over to them, and then they sent it back, I doubt there would be many issues. You could keep paying the rego and keep the plates and strictly speaking not even take it near the registration authorities. The toughest part in my book would be convincing the insurance company to value your 199x 911 for $300k+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
npvpositive Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 I'm officially afflicted by the Singer fantasy and have thought about the practicality of getting one back to Oz. . . http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/vehicles/imports/import_options/rav.aspx My approach would be to export an Aussie plated 964 to the US for a "driving holiday". Then bring it back six months later much improved by the good folks at Singer. Main risk is that govt would decide it was no longer the original car due to extent of the modifications . . . here's a quote of the gov website: The vehicle being re-imported is to be the same as the vehicle that was previously exported. If a vehicle has been converted into a different automotive product (such as a replica car or stretched) while overseas, the vehicle no longer qualifies under these arrangements and would have to seek import approval under another option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clutch-monkey Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 I'm officially afflicted by the Singer fantasy and have thought about the practicality of getting one back to Oz. . . http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/vehicles/imports/import_options/rav.aspx My approach would be to export an Aussie plated 964 to the US for a "driving holiday". Then bring it back six months later much improved by the good folks at Singer. Main risk is that govt would decide it was no longer the original car due to extent of the modifications . . . here's a quote of the gov website: The vehicle being re-imported is to be the same as the vehicle that was previously exported. If a vehicle has been converted into a different automotive product (such as a replica car or stretched) while overseas, the vehicle no longer qualifies under these arrangements and would have to seek import approval under another option. i don't think that will be an issue- the wording of that seems to refer to changing the class of vehicle i.e. from passenger car to ICV/limo etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 i don't think that will be an issue- the wording of that seems to refer to changing the class of vehicle i.e. from passenger car to ICV/limo etc I agree. For all that the Singer work is, realistically it's just a body & paint job and a new interior with an engine rebuild. Ok, for us, it goes deeper than that - but as far as the paperwork shufflers are concerned, that's all there is to it. It's still the same car with the same VIN and engine number, with the same number of seats and the same basic chassis configuration. The 'replica car' wording is interesting, but I would say that relates into turning a VW into a Ferrari or something like that, rather than fitting bigger wheels on a Porsche. If you're serious about it I bet they (Singer) would have experience in filling out paperwork - Australia is not the only place with ridiculous import laws. Main thing to remember is that federal import rules are a different thing than state based registration rules. So as long as it is the same vehicle as it was when it left, then that should satisfy the import people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hounddub Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 Send it on a Carnet du Passage (or ATA) and there wouldn't be an issue. I have a lot of experience doing this with Press cars for a manufacturer. Never an issue. 12 months validity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatSix Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 I remember reading an article where Rob Dickinson said he was waiting for ADR compliance to import into Australia but I can't seem to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 10December, 2014 Report Share Posted 10December, 2014 Good look at a Singer: :https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DCOILP0Hm1s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tk111 Posted 11December, 2014 Report Share Posted 11December, 2014 I remember reading an article where Rob Dickinson said he was waiting for ADR compliance to import into Australia but I can't seem to find it. I am sure it was in a recent motoring magazine, I think it may have been the Australian Top Gear magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 11December, 2014 Report Share Posted 11December, 2014 The toughest part in my book would be convincing the insurance company to value your 199x 911 for $300k+ Indeed. But if you can afford the cash to buy it (you couldn't lease one) , well insurance would be of secondary importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV911 Posted 11December, 2014 Report Share Posted 11December, 2014 The toughest part in my book would be convincing the insurance company to value your 199x 911 for $300k+ Having just been through this, albeing not for $300k, it's not hard. The broker did the leg work and I just needed to get a valuation from a licenced motor dealer or valuer. Still the best Singer video...no surprises that it features Chris Harris http://youtu.be/fJQ4hQSusjE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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