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Hi all,

 

My name is Stefan and have been a car guy since day dot. I've been into the Aussie musclecars s i was exposed to them in my formative years and have owned and still own Falcon GTs. I've always had a thing fr 911s and have finally decided I want to get into an early 911 and really I'm thinking 1970 to 73 but so is everyone else. I see  prices from dealers and even private sellers north of 140K for these. I guess being newbie I'm not sure if these guys are fishing? Is that the price? Or do I bide time, join a club and pick one up for a more reasonable price.

I'm budgeting 80-100 for an Aussie delivered 911, the early ones preferred. Am I dreaming? Do I need to look at late 70s early 80s. Do I buy one and "backdate" the look?

Any advice very much appreciated. I will snoop around and ask stupid questions. Sorry in advance.

Cheers

Stefan

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Theres no stupid questions from the uneducated Stefan. Welcome.

 Oz delivered, I dare say you'll need to up the budget for a nice earlier car. The prices you are seeing are about right, yet there are some opportunistic (optimistic?) sellers around, so do your homework. I would imagine that a late 70's or 80's cars would be where I would be aiming with your budget. If you backdate a car, it can kill its future value to a Porsche purist, yet its your car, so do what you want.

 Have a dig around the forum for various topics covering your request, as they have been covered here and there

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Willkommen.

Yep, that's the going rate for a cheap long hood 911.  For your budget, if you strike now you might get lucky and get into a 3.2, or definitely a really nice SC.  Good 3.2's are selling for $100K +, with SC's just under that.  Check out the What's for sale thread in the classifieds section. 

SC's are great cars.  Lots of torque in the 3.0 engine.  The 915 box takes a bit of getting used to.  Patience is a virtue in this department.  The SC is a raw and simple sportscar IMO, cramped, smelly, and devoid of creature comforts, apart from power windows & next to useless aircon.  Don't be frightened off by ill-informed opinions about the CIS injection system.  If you just want a car for the street the CIS is fine.

Good luck.

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Danke!

Great information already, I did think "back dating' would not be welcomed by purists and reality is I'm a guy that loves originality and if anyone  wanted to modify a Facon GT I'd be first in line to tut tut them with astern shake of the head.

I'd consider a Targa in the long nose too, as I love that quirky targa, especially in some 70's beige.... correct me if I'm wrong, they seem to be cheaper.

I'll shoot off a club membership application to the Sydney Porsche club, nothing like getting into the scene, maybe pick up a club car.

 

 

 

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 Targas are shooting up in price too mate. 

I'm far from an expert, yet just be careful when looking at Porsche's, and try to have someone experienced with them that knows what to look for go along with you if you find a car.

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I'd say the days of picking up an Aus delivered, matching no.s long hood under 200k are gone. An overseas car LHD or converted maybe for mid 100's - if anyone has a matching no. Aus car they want to sell for 100-150 please let me know! :D

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If you got a converted car or something that has been butchered and backdate it/modify it to what you want, go for it. If it is not original then do what you want. If it is a neat Aus delivered car, then you would destroy its value by messing with it too much. 

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Yeah, in terms of back dating a car it would only be a  car has already been messed with like a mid 70's car updated to 90s.

Kind a silly, buy a forward dated car to back date it.

Or buy a long nose that has been updated and get it back to original. I imagine the correct part to get back to original will be exxy so may not be worth it (financially that is)

As i said, I know a good original long nose would be over my $$$...

 

 

 

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There was a sand beige longhood targa on the market (still?) just recently... 

Hang on...here it is.  $78000.

http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Porsche-911-1969/SSE-AD-3762082/?Cr=7

Left hook but I think in an early car that just adds to it's quirky coolness!  Also better to stay original as LHD than be a converted to RHD car.

I'm surprised this car is still available to be honest...

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One thing you must do is get a pre-purchase inspection done on the car before you purchase it, & get it done by a Porsche specialist. The PPI will cost anything upto $600 but could save you thousands. I love Targa cars, in OZ hard tops are more sort after, & there is a stigma attached to soft tops, & targas to an extent, In the US it is the other way around, go figure. If you are not going to race it Targa & soft top cars are great fun. Nothing better than cruising with the top down with a 6 pot sound track singing behind you. 

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One thing you must do is get a pre-purchase inspection done on the car before you purchase it, & get it done by a Porsche specialist. The PPI will cost anything upto $600 

I found with my Cayman S, I had to get Porsche Gold Coast to do the PPI (RACQ wouldn't even do it!) and it was $880....

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Yeah, in terms of back dating a car it would only be a  car has already been messed with like a mid 70's car updated to 90s.

Kind a silly, buy a forward dated car to back date it.

Or buy a long nose that has been updated and get it back to original. I imagine the correct part to get back to original will be exxy so may not be worth it (financially that is)

As i said, I know a good original long nose would be over my $$$...

 

 

 

backdating a forward dated car is a sensible way to go, because a forward dated bitza is cheaper than an original car.

for yr reading:  http://porscheforum.com.au/topic/7620-father-son-project/

of course we don't know the final bill, but it's a fresh car for probably in the cost range of a long hood car of dubious provenance.  Or maybe even a nice original long hood,  but without a 3.2 and nice racy look.

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