tomo Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 Practice 2 results 1 Max VERSTAPPEN Red Bull1:29.603 2 Fernando ALONSO Aston Martin1:29.811 3 Sergio PÉREZ Red Bull1:29.902 4 Esteban OCON Alpine1:30.039 5 George RUSSELL Mercedes1:30.070 6 Pierre GASLY Alpine1:30.100 7 Lance STROLL Aston Martin1:30.110 8 Nico HULKENBERG Haas1:30.181 9 Charles LECLERC Ferrari1:30.341 10 Carlos SAINZ Ferrari1:30.592 11 Lewis HAMILTON Mercedes1:30.599 12 Lando NORRIS McLaren1:30.721 13 Yuki TSUNODA Alpha Tauri1:30.776 14 Alexander ALBON Williams1:30.810 15 Kevin MAGNUSSEN Haas1:30.820 16 Guanyu ZHOU Alfa Romeo1:30.837 17 Nyck DE VRIES Alpha Tauri1:30.921 18 Logan SARGEANT Williams1:30.959 19 Oscar PIASTRI McLaren1:30.964 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 Piastri might be wishing he stayed with Alpine right about now … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera28 Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 1 minute ago, JWM said: Piastri might be wishing he stayed with Alpine right about now … Yeah I was thinking that, McLaren are not exactly a team that shows loyalty to an under-performing driver and driving for Alpine he would have some already accumulated loyalty points from their previous relationship to consume in early races. Piastri comes into F1 with pressure and expectations that I can only relate to Kimi and Lewis in the modern era. Upside of course driving for McLaren F1 team is that your company car is a step over a Renault Clio or A110. JWM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 29 minutes ago, JWM said: Piastri might be wishing he stayed with Alpine right about now … Going by his public comments, I'd say the opposite is correct. Alpine f@#$ed him over by dangling a carrot, yet that was also pending on the decision from Alonso and his future as to whether he would sign with Alpine again. Piastri, understandably, thought "Stuff this waiting crap, I wanna race..." and signed up with McLaren just to get a ride. Then Alpine boss has a sook about it and McLaren had to pay them a couple of million to shut him up and avoid a court case. I'm sure Piastri would've signed with Williams if the right offer was there, as all he wants to do is be in F1. Whether he's good enough to hack it in F1 remains to be seen due to McLaren being less than competitive, so all he has to do is be close to or beat Norris and he'll be on the better teams radar. Horner and Red Bull wanted him, but they already have Max and Perez, and I'm sure he'd just be where Ricciardo is now by being a reserve driver and ambassador for the team without a race for another year. At least he's in F1and in a full season, so that's a bonus I s'pose JWM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 32 minutes ago, LeeM said: At least he's in F1and in a full season, so that's a bonus I s'pose True, and you hope people can see past him being on a dog of a car, but as you say he has to be close to or beating Norris in it still … I hope it doesn’t put a dampener on his career because it’s seemed pretty stellar so far. Good point on the Alpine situation too, that did seem messy, I’d kind of forgotten he was looking at another season with no actual race seat there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera28 Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 34 minutes ago, JWM said: True, and you hope people can see past him being on a dog of a car, but as you say he has to be close to or beating Norris in it still … I hope it doesn’t put a dampener on his career because it’s seemed pretty stellar so far. Good point on the Alpine situation too, that did seem messy, I’d kind of forgotten he was looking at another season with no actual race seat there. That's not entirely true, they were going to arrange him a race season in 2023, the uncertainty was whether it would be with Alpine or whether they would farm him out to Williams F1 for a season of experience. JWM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 44 minutes ago, Carrera28 said: That's not entirely true, they were going to arrange him a race season in 2023, the uncertainty was whether it would be with Alpine or whether they would farm him out to Williams F1 for a season of experience. True, though that wasn't guaranteed, as the Alpine boss they "might" be able to get him a ride with Williams. As professional drivers, most of them are going to go where it's guaranteed they'll get a drive, and I imagine Piastri was no different when there was always the chance Williams might have the chance to have a big paying driver instead. Time will tell if Ricciardo has either made a very good decision to have a year off, or a very bad one. Piastri in my opinion didn't really have a choice but to go to Mclaren, as that was the best option to be mid pack and have a massive company behind him...even though they have a shit car by the looks 😁 Of course it's all speculation on my part, as I know bugger all about it really, but its' just pure logic for a driver to take the best offer available...the same as any other employment really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carrera28 Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 1 hour ago, LeeM said: True, though that wasn't guaranteed, as the Alpine boss they "might" be able to get him a ride with Williams. As professional drivers, most of them are going to go where it's guaranteed they'll get a drive, and I imagine Piastri was no different when there was always the chance Williams might have the chance to have a big paying driver instead. Time will tell if Ricciardo has either made a very good decision to have a year off, or a very bad one. Piastri in my opinion didn't really have a choice but to go to Mclaren, as that was the best option to be mid pack and have a massive company behind him...even though they have a shit car by the looks 😁 Of course it's all speculation on my part, as I know bugger all about it really, but its' just pure logic for a driver to take the best offer available...the same as any other employment really I am just hoping that Oscar's manager's bad luck in choosing which team to drive for does not rub off on him 😎 TBH I am not sure that the Honey Badger had many options and while F1 is a passion, it is also a job and being Red Bull's third driver is l suspect significantly more commercially advantageous than being a Williams or Haas driver. I suspect that unless something happens to one of the top drivers or the MV/Perez relationship explodes, his best option would be Sauber/Audi where his experience might valuable and he may be commercially more desirable than the similarly experienced Bottas. Unfortunately I suspect DR will remain out of F1 in 2024, given his commercial value and broad experience he may pursue one of the Hypercar drives in IMSA and WEC where he can get paid to drive a competitive car and can potentially continue as a sponsored Red Bull athlete as well. Like Aussie Grit he may have to accept being a World Champion in a different category. I would love to see him driving a Penske Porsche at Le Mans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 @Carrera28 I reckon DR is done in F1. In a competitive car anyway. I honestly think he jumped to Mclaren because he believed Brown's bullshit...and a big pay rise, so I'm sure he wouldn't want to drive for a lowly team just to be in F1. That, and there's too many up and coming F2 kids with daddy's money to buy their drives who would take precedent over an older bloke like DR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 Practise 3. Piastri is 8th .013 behind Norris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 18March, 2023 Author Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 5 hours ago, LeeM said: @Carrera28 I reckon DR is done in F1. In a competitive car anyway. I honestly think he jumped to Mclaren because he believed Brown's bullshit...and a big pay rise, so I'm sure he wouldn't want to drive for a lowly team just to be in F1. That, and there's too many up and coming F2 kids with daddy's money to buy their drives who would take precedent over an older bloke like DR He is doing taxi adds in the West for a crust nòw , If he was driving a cab,That would be something to pay 4 LeeM and Harsh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjm Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 P8, after Leclerc penalty. I’d say he’s happy with that, ahead of Lando too. Well done Oscar🙂 Rick V and LeeM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 18March, 2023 Report Share Posted 18March, 2023 😅 10 spots ahead of Norris too 👍 sjm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeatesy Posted 19March, 2023 Report Share Posted 19March, 2023 I’ve watched F1 since I was a kid and although I rate Piastri as a driver I just can’t warm to his personality. He’s certainly no Danny Ric so i’ll continue to support Ferrari although that can be painful at times. tomo, LeeM and Harsh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 19March, 2023 Report Share Posted 19March, 2023 1 minute ago, Yeatesy said: I rate Piastri as a driver I just can’t warm to his personality. He has one? 😯 Reminds me of Prost Yeatesy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 19March, 2023 Report Share Posted 19March, 2023 Lando’s car was cactus after only getting an early Q1 time in … so hard to say if Piastri’s time was good or not … but better than last week! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 19March, 2023 Report Share Posted 19March, 2023 17 minutes ago, JWM said: Lando’s car was cactus after only getting an early Q1 time in … so hard to say if Piastri’s time was good or not … but better than last week! After touching a wall 😁 Sorry, not a Norris fan. I watched the qualifying replays today, and Piastri was .013 off Norris, then jumped ahead. He was probably the smoothest driver out there too. His car hardly moved when he touched the kerbing, yet others were basically jumping them. Even the commentators, especially Brundle, were saying afterwards how unflustered and smooth he was. His starting position is right in the middle, so it will be a test of his metal to see how he gets off the line and positions himself right for the first turn. Rare for me to get excited about F1, but I'm really looking forward to seeing Piastri get a good start and get a decent result JWM and sjm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoHeadsTas Posted 19March, 2023 Report Share Posted 19March, 2023 21 hours ago, LeeM said: He has one? 😯 Reminds me of Prost Prost is still one of my all time favourites 🙂 Even if he is French.... Just watched the race now, couldn't be arsed staying up after 12.00, just made sure I didn't play on FB like I did for Race 1 replay. Fantastic drive by MS to come back from 15th, but also masterful drive by Checo to pretty much lead the whole race apart from the first few corners. Harsh penalty for Alonso, but them's the rules..... JWM and tomo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 20March, 2023 Report Share Posted 20March, 2023 I watched through the 2 F2 replays waiting for F1. Saw 1/4 of a lap n dozed off 😅🙄 JWM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 20March, 2023 Report Share Posted 20March, 2023 Nice work by Piastri too. LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 20March, 2023 Author Report Share Posted 20March, 2023 Norris says " I just let him go" https://www.foxsports.com.au/motorsport/formula-one/oscar-piastri-beats-mclaren-teammate-in-major-statement-at-saudi-arabian-gp/news-story/42ba025cfe13638d1571917ece1ec618 P-Kay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWM Posted 20March, 2023 Report Share Posted 20March, 2023 Why didn’t he pass Sargeant himself then… LeeM and Asyd 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 20March, 2023 Report Share Posted 20March, 2023 2 minutes ago, JWM said: Why didn’t he pass Sargeant himself then… "Oh that? Yeah I didn't feel like passing him, as it wasn't for points so it didn't matter, and thought it'd be nice to let a rookie think he beat me" Man I hope Piastri gets in his head and rattles his cage, and turns into a Senna/Prost/McLaren team mate rivalry saga 😅 I think it's already started though! 😁 Don't know why he annoys me, yet he just comes across as a smug little rich kid. Asyd, JWM, Yeatesy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeatesy Posted 21March, 2023 Report Share Posted 21March, 2023 3 hours ago, LeeM said: Don't know why he annoys me, yet he just comes across as a smug little rich kid. Spot on mate, when he comes on camera in Drive to Survive and says “I’m Oscar Piastri and I’m a McLaren racing driver” that’s exactly what I thought. LeeM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 21March, 2023 Report Share Posted 21March, 2023 @Yeatesy I didnt know (or really care) about his family background till I read a post on Instagram last week. Seems the old man, who is one of the wealthiest blokes in the UK, has thrown a few bucks at Mclaren. $44million in fact, so Lando is actually a 'pay as you go' driver which I didn't know. Yeatesy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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