T-Man Posted 26May, 2013 Report Share Posted 26May, 2013 +1. Very sensible Harvs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vas Posted 27May, 2013 Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 Guys, been alot of testing done on this. The only reason car makers have lower pressures than 40psi is for the comfort level. 40 psi improves the handling of the car, but more important has a dramatic effect on braking distance. I could save your life. I learnt all this when I did my CAMS licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 27May, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 Guys, been alot of testing done on this. The only reason car makers have lower pressures than 40psi is for the comfort level. 40 psi improves the handling of the car, but more important has a dramatic effect on braking distance. I could save your life. I learnt all this when I did my CAMS licence. Cheers Vas - for me, asking these types of questions, all the varying advice can be a little daunting. Anyhoo, had a very excited cave man email me about his course on Friday. I think I'll just pony up the $ and do the P course at Phillip Island in October. I'll get some new rubber on the car by then too. In the meantime I'll start playing with some different air pressures in my tyres within reason and see how it goes. As for the tram-lining.. will see what effect the PSI has on that. If nothing, then maybe i just get an alignment done. Which I might have to repeat in August-ish when I put new rubber on but hey, its all part of the learning experience and making sure the car is safe for the next 4 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhead Posted 27May, 2013 Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 Amanda, Tyre pressures and alignment recommendations - do it all. The tram lining effect could just be wide tyres riding the ridges in the road (caused by heavy trucks/poor road maintenance) and could still happen when you car is in perfect condition. Also don't hold onto you wheel to tight. Porsches like to move around a bit. You don't have to wrestle it. IMHO - the PCV course at Phillip Island will train you to be smooth and drive you car quickly. But if you do the Murcott course first they will teach you how to emergency brake, swerve and recover, understand/experience how ABS feels when using the brakes hard etc etc. This is a far better grounding course to give you confidence in what YOU can do with the car. Then go and do the PCV training at PI or Sandown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 27May, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 Amanda, Tyre pressures and alignment recommendations - do it all. The tram lining effect could just be wide tyres riding the ridges in the road (caused by heavy trucks/poor road maintenance) and could still happen when you car is in perfect condition. Also don't hold onto you wheel to tight. Porsches like to move around a bit. You don't have to wrestle it. IMHO - the PCV course at Phillip Island will train you to be smooth and drive you car quickly. But if you do the Murcott course first they will teach you how to emergency brake, swerve and recover, understand/experience how ABS feels when using the brakes hard etc etc. This is a far better grounding course to give you confidence in what YOU can do with the car. Then go and do the PCV training at PI or Sandown. Thanks Barry. The course recommendation sounds like what I was thinking of doing. I can't get to PI with Porsche till October 1st. I'd like to do something a litlte sooner, so was thinking of doing a local course first. I'm about to book my car in next week hopefully to do the alignment. Whilst I know of Traction in Rowville... anyone know of a trusted place in around Melbourne that I could try out too? I'm in the Ascot Vale area, so can be on my side of town or within say a 10km radius of the CBD. If not, I'll have to take a day off work to visit Traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vas Posted 27May, 2013 Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 Amanda give Loui a call at Motion Automotive 96450022. He did mine last year. Close to Crown Casino. Have a chat to this guy before you do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 27May, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 Oh cool thanks Vas! I'll call him now, this means I don't need to take a day off work. Drivers course about to be booked for late June too, in anticipation for doing P one on PI in October Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caver Posted 27May, 2013 Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 The tram lining effect could just be wide tyres riding the ridges in the road (caused by heavy trucks/poor road maintenance) and could still happen when you car is in perfect condition. Also don't hold onto your wheel too tightly. Porsches like to move around a bit. You don't have to wrestle it. Yes, me too. Sometimes I feel the car wanting to drive its own line. I look in the mirror and can see that there are clear ridges in the road from heavy truck use, or a badly repaired section. On smooth roads, there is no such wandering. Also be aware, the rear track is wider than the front which would accentuate the effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 27May, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 Yes, me too. Sometimes I feel the car wanting to drive its own line. I look in the mirror and can see that there are clear ridges in the road from heavy truck use, or a badly repaired section. On smooth roads, there is no such wandering. Also be aware, the rear track is wider than the front which would accentuate the effect. Cool thanks cave man! I just spoke to Vas man Loui and he said the same thing.. happens on many of the Porsches he drives. I'm about to book it in for an alignment. And booked defensive driving course for June 22. I'm an action woman! Wheel Alignment Booked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly Posted 27May, 2013 Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 Hi Amanda, here is my 2 cents worth, if the car is handling in any way peculiar then the process I use to to rectify the situation is to verify that the correct size tyres are fitted, that hey are not too old (i.e. <3yrs), that they are evenly worn, correctly inflated and then ensure that the alignment is set to the factory specifications once it is verified that there are no excessively worn (or damaged) suspension components. With those steps sorted the handling of the car should be restored to a predictable state and then you'll be set to undertake a driving course to make the most out of your car. I can attest to wasting a lot of time attempting to sort out a handling issue with my car which turned out to be old tyres with different front to rear grip levels, I hadn't wanted to change the tyres at the time because they had plenty of tread but when I eventually did so the change was dramatic. My personal choice for an excellent wet/dry road tyre is the Michelin Pilot sport or super sport range which performed well in European summer and winter conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted 27May, 2013 Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 Amanda give Loui a call at Motion Automotive 96450022. He did mine last year. Close to Crown Casino. Have a chat to this guy before you do anything. I can vouch for Loui, he has worked on my 1st P car with excellent results, he's a top fellow and knows his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted 27May, 2013 Report Share Posted 27May, 2013 Looks like its been covered pretty well, just to add to the Driving Course, suggestions, when we were setting up our driving course for my old job, three of us booked into the 2 day Murcott course, not telling them who we were. The aim was to see if there was anything on the course that we could include on our courses. To be honest there wasn't, we had it pretty well covered BUT....the trainers and the course standard was excellent, and it was an enjoyable and worthwhile exercise. Unless things have changed over the last few years I would highly recommend it. (Even came away with a new Cams licence, if only the boss's at work knew we added that bit in...haha) Good for you for sorting both yourself and the car out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 28May, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 28May, 2013 My tyres were set to the cars owner manual recommendation for 18 inch rims. Front 29 and rear 36. This was set on the drive home from Sydney. Tyres had lost no pressure and they were cold when I checked them. I put 32 in the front and left the rears at 36. I only drove about 5km after, I think it felt different but not sure if I imagined it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty188 Posted 30July, 2013 Report Share Posted 30July, 2013 Hi Amanda Did you complete the driver course? Which one did you choose and would you recommend it ? I am looking to do something similar very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 30July, 2013 Author Report Share Posted 30July, 2013 Hi Monty, I did the driver dynamics 1 day defensive driver course. It was ok. Lots of P platers also doing the course. Practiced locking the brakes up at 60km/hr to experience ABS. Then tried to swerve and stop under brakes etc Lots of basic reviewing of road rules etc For $150 (introduction price) it was ok. But I want more... I'm going to pony up the $$$ and do the Porsche one down at Phillip Island. From what I understand, I'll get some experience in cornering out on the track etc thats the stuff I really want to do. Just need to get over the expense of the IMS Solution install and hopefully I'll be doing the P one in October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-banger Posted 30July, 2013 Report Share Posted 30July, 2013 I think Porsche make you do all their courses before you can do the fun stuff. Others schools are not so strict, depending on you previous experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 30July, 2013 Report Share Posted 30July, 2013 Hey Amanda with your handling issue you will find that your P car is running more camber and toe in/out, than most "normal" road cars. When i had an alignment done on my 944 the guy who did it, knows his stuff btw, told me more camber and toe tends to make the car "rail" more than normal. On a perfect piece of road the car will track without having to correct it or hold the steering wheel but on worn roads it is a bit of a chore, car handles better though. Just my 2 bob's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pearl Posted 3February, 2014 Report Share Posted 3February, 2014 Hi Amanda Was looking through the archives looking for details on driving courses. Was wondering how you went and whether you did a course? Would you recommend it? I'm picking up my car tomorrow ( very excited) and was thinking I ought to brush up on my driving. Ideally I'd like some guidance on how to enjoy yet stay alive in a car with no abs, esp, or traction control. Cheers rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 3February, 2014 Report Share Posted 3February, 2014 Hi Rob, The Porsche Club have a day at Sandown on the 22nd; http://www.pcv.com.au/PorscheClubs/pc_victoria/pc_main.nsf/web/0F521668760EDDCBC1257C2400178C61 Maybe of interest. Cheers, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pearl Posted 4February, 2014 Report Share Posted 4February, 2014 Hi Rob, The Porsche Club have a day at Sandown on the 22nd;http://www.pcv.com.au/PorscheClubs/pc_victoria/pc_main.nsf/web/0F521668760EDDCBC1257C2400178C61 Maybe of interest. Cheers, Hi Hugh Thanks for that. I came across it today. Just need to check what time it starts as I have an early morning commitment. Have you done it or know of any one who has? Look ideal for my needs...... Cheers rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hugh Posted 4February, 2014 Report Share Posted 4February, 2014 Hi Hugh Thanks for that. I came across it today. Just need to check what time it starts as I have an early morning commitment. Have you done it or know of any one who has? Look ideal for my needs...... Cheers rob I have'nt done it myself but know others that have and enjoyed/benefited from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
withers Posted 4February, 2014 Author Report Share Posted 4February, 2014 Hi Amanda Was looking through the archives looking for details on driving courses. Was wondering how you went and whether you did a course? Would you recommend it? I'm picking up my car tomorrow ( very excited) and was thinking I ought to brush up on my driving. Ideally I'd like some guidance on how to enjoy yet stay alive in a car with no abs, esp, or traction control. Cheers rob Hi Rob, Yeh I did the $150 Driver Dynamics entry course. For the money, it's a good starting point. You'll get to practice hard braking, swerving under hard braking etc. it's good fun actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty188 Posted 5February, 2014 Report Share Posted 5February, 2014 Hi I also did the $150 Driver Dynamics entry course ( at Sandown) . I agree with Amanda's comments completely. For me the bonus was at the end of it I felt far more comfortable with the car. At the end of the course they offered the Advanced Driver course , for $249 if i recall. I did the Advanced Driver course as well ( at Sandown) but a few months later with a couple of SMT's under my belt. I cant say I would recommend it though, it was mostly a repeat of the first , with added speed and some extra skills . The entire day was held in the the car park. The skid pan exercises were poor in my view. The "skid pad" was a circle of cones in the car park with some water thrown down. As always you get what you pay for. I think a proper advanced course need to be held on track or some where more suitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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