911virgin Posted 2May, 2018 Report Share Posted 2May, 2018 hi all I am a real idiot. I used a dry "chux" cleaning cloth to clean off some dry water spots on my car and in doing so have caused multiple linear scratches and lines on a small area of the black paint above the wheel arch its only visible if you look closely and under certain light. what damage have I done and how can it be fixed? any help appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 2May, 2018 Report Share Posted 2May, 2018 It happens - dont do anything further is my advice, take the car to a reputable detailer and get the paint cleaned up what state are you in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 2May, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 2May, 2018 victoria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Kay Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 That'll polish out - Don't stress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike D'Silva Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 27 minutes ago, Ozvino said: It happens - dont do anything further is my advice, take the car to a reputable detailer and get the paint cleaned up what state are you in? I was worried he was going to reply "panicked!" or "hysterical!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 3May, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 2 minutes ago, P-Kay said: That'll polish out - Don't stress that's +ve to know! yes, believe me, I was panicking and upset!! you know im sure, what car lovers/freaks are like does anyone know what the actual process of a "cut and polish " does to the paint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 youtube is your friend Its essentially taking a layer of paint away...at the micron level, but thats what it really means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 3May, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P-Kay Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 By the sounds of it, there will be no need to cut, only polish. To 'cut' is to physically use sandpaper on the paint first. Some refer to this as wet sanding - guess technically it is. To remove any scratches, the paint needs to be reduced to a level surface. Depending on the scratch will depend on the method used. A milder version to the above is to use an abrasive polish (called cutting compound) Milder still is polish only (generally used for small blemishes which is what it sounds like you have. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 3May, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 should I leave it to PCM or try to polish it myself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philbee Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 By the sounds of it, there will be no need to cut, only polish. To 'cut' is to physically use sandpaper on the paint first. Some refer to this as wet sanding - guess technically it is. To remove any scratches, the paint needs to be reduced to a level surface. Depending on the scratch will depend on the method used. A milder version to the above is to use an abrasive polish (called cutting compound) Milder still is polish only (generally used for small blemishes which is what it sounds like you have. Good luck [emoji4] Sandpaper? Yoiks!! That's serious... I've got a bottle of cutting cream that I apply like polish (smear on buff off) for light scratches, smears, bird shit stains, etc... I can't remove. there's diff grades you can get too... goto autobarn.I've also got a bottle of black polish that covers up light scratches. It's only temp and more for not prominent spots. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 3May, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 2 minutes ago, Philbee said: Sandpaper? Yoiks!! That's serious... I've got a bottle of cutting cream that I apply like polish (smear on buff off) for light scratches, smears, bird shit stains, etc... I can't remove. there's diff grades you can get too... goto autobarn. I've also got a bottle of black polish that covers up light scratches. It's only temp and more for not prominent spots. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk what brand, name is your cutting cream? that sounds like what I need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsujack Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 1 hour ago, 911virgin said: should I leave it to PCM or try to polish it myself? youtube search: ammo nyc and devour Larry's advice. Then if you're confident you could try yourself, but otherwise my advice take it to a reputable local detailer, there are a number in Vic, that may not necessarily be the dealer. be especially careful with black paint... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTY Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 You could try Autoglym paint renovator like @Philbee says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symsy Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 Go see @JB, Glen Iris , 1557 High Street , solid input from him and can do the work also Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozvino Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 53 minutes ago, symsy said: Go see @JB, Glen Iris , 1557 High Street , solid input from him and can do the work also what @symsy says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lucky Phil Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 @911virginDO NOT do this yourself if you are at all worried. Just go to JB in Glen Iris or go to my man, Anthony in Moorabbin. Can be fixed in no time. My guy will also advise you what not to do next time and when you can fix yourself vs when it needs professional advice. If you cut soft black paint you could end up making it cloudy or worse still cut too far. There are do it yourself products out there but these are generally cover ups and the marks will reappear after a few washes. If you want to see how well paint can be restored Google Jim White who does marvellous work in the UK. His videos are addictive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911virgin Posted 3May, 2018 Author Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 1 hour ago, Ozvino said: what @symsy says thanks symsy and oz vino- will follow that up cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philbee Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 what brand, name is your cutting cream? that sounds like what I needI think you're better to go see what's at autobarn and discuss and learn the different grades and applications for cutting... and as has been said, spec care needed for black especially if not metallic black.I even have a heavy cut for my rims to get the hard grime off...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 @carrerrag50 spot on with that clip. please remember however wet sanding should not be tried at home unless you know what your your doing. Likewise buffing paint particularly on a P car. all i would encourage is practice makes perfect. @911virgin doesn't sound serious a light buff will probably get it out, very quickly. Just to put your mind at ease i am Porsche trained - UK (master detailer) but in saying that please guys DO NOT take your car to a dealer, take it to a specialist detailer who can show their work. Secondly most of us out in Melbourne do the majority of dealership work anyway, and they just on charge the customer 3 times the amount we charge them. Some further food for thought a major dealer uses us to fix their dealership 'Detailers' mistakes................... bring it down, no commitment required happy to provide advice as a fellow P car owner/enthusiast. Jonathan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 7 hours ago, P-Kay said: By the sounds of it, there will be no need to cut, only polish. To 'cut' is to physically use sandpaper on the paint first. Some refer to this as wet sanding - guess technically it is. To remove any scratches, the paint needs to be reduced to a level surface. Depending on the scratch will depend on the method used. A milder version to the above is to use an abrasive polish (called cutting compound) Milder still is polish only (generally used for small blemishes which is what it sounds like you have. Good luck Guys also remember the majority of polishes are fillers/protectants, they do not actually remedy the problem just masks it. When you start talking compounds there are different level/brands and abrasions. The other factor then is the application, pad density, process of cut (1,2,3 stage) and removal, then the capability of the person doing it... Sounds like maybe into the back half of the year when daylight savings comes back i'll run a PFA workshop if there's enough interest just on some basic maintenance/washing/polishing at work after hours. We can do some wet sanding if it tickles peoples fancy, i don't however think i'll be offered a volunteer car.....lol. In the interim one tip of advice. don't wipe your car with a dry cloth, always lubricate with a buff & shine or polish, rapid detailer or the like. When putting a cloth to a car always microfiber, the better the quality the better the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troubleshooter Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 6 hours ago, 911virgin said: should I leave it to PCM or try to polish it myself? 6 hours ago, 911virgin said: Go the JB route!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Easy Posted 3May, 2018 Report Share Posted 3May, 2018 19 hours ago, Ozvino said: what @symsy says what @Ozvino says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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