Sherpa Posted 19December, 2021 Report Share Posted 19December, 2021 My indicator stalk broke last week, in classic 996 fashion. I bought the replacement part from Porsche and installed it yesterday. For ref, it's the four stalk unit with cruise and computer controls, and the car is a 6.2 So got it buttoned back up, and everything was working. However, I've noticed in the 24hrs since, I am losing all indicator function intermittently. So regardless of stalk position, no light on the dash or outside the car. It doesn't seem to be caused by bumps or steering position. Relay is seated properly, but hazard lights don't work either when the indicators are failing. The plug on the indicator side of the unit seems pretty hard to f-up when installing. So I'm assuming it's not that. But before I pull it all apart and re-seat it, can anyone suggest some other paths to test or check first? Looking for a Christmas miracle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tips Posted 20December, 2021 Report Share Posted 20December, 2021 i removed mine a number of times attempting the MFX clockspring fix but just couldn't get it right so bought a new one. I didn't have this issue but did find that some of the older fittings were a little loose when putting them back so really needed to check all 3 plugs in my case sat properly. It sounds very much like an earthing issue. If fuses are all good, I am thinking if it was me I would be going back in and confirming all plugs have stayed connected. its only 30 min to do it. Sherpa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted Posted 20December, 2021 Report Share Posted 20December, 2021 The relay will need replacing............. don't ask me how I know😂 Sherpa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherpa Posted 20December, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 20December, 2021 37 minutes ago, Tips said: It sounds very much like an earthing issue. If fuses are all good, I am thinking if it was me I would be going back in and confirming all plugs have stayed connected. its only 30 min to do it. But… what a brutal 30mins 😅 It felt like an earthing issue to me to tho. Having said that… 25 minutes ago, Boosted said: The relay will need replacing............. don't ask me how I know😂 I decided to take this path first, and it seems like it’s working with a replacement relay. I’ll give it a good test this arvo. But I hope that’s all it is🤞🏼 Thanks for the advice guys 🙏🏼 Tips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherpa Posted 20December, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 20December, 2021 It was the relay @Boosted. Whatever your previous ordeal was that gave you that insight, wasn’t in vein 😅 Thank you 🙏🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFX Posted 20December, 2021 Report Share Posted 20December, 2021 The glue on my first go of the fix failed last week. Pulled it out and fixed it again and it is all working perfectly. Cost me around 20c worth of Araldite and another 20c in rivets Rod C, Sherpa and Tips 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve996 Posted 20December, 2021 Report Share Posted 20December, 2021 Mine had been replaced just before I bought it, and broke again about 6 months ago, so I'm operating in manual mode til I can find the time and the Araldite. I can't believe they haven't manufactured a replacement part that isn't prone to failure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherpa Posted 20December, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 20December, 2021 16 hours ago, MFX said: The glue on my first go of the fix failed last week. Pulled it out and fixed it again and it is all working perfectly. Cost me around 20c worth of Araldite and another 20c in rivets I watched your video when it broke, but it was right before I had to drive up the east coast. So I needed a quick(er) fix 😅 But I’m going to have a crack at the old one as a back up when I get home. 2 hours ago, Steve996 said: I can't believe they haven't manufactured a replacement part that isn't prone to failure! 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFX Posted 21December, 2021 Report Share Posted 21December, 2021 3 hours ago, Sherpa said: I watched your video when it broke, but it was right before I had to drive up the east coast. So I needed a quick(er) fix 😅 But I’m going to have a crack at the old one as a back up when I get home. 100% The longest part is pulling it out. The fix part is pretty quick and simple. 4 hours ago, Steve996 said: I can't believe they haven't manufactured a replacement part that isn't prone to failure! I don't understand the design in the first place. The tabs that break off look like they were designed to flex (or break) but they just need to be solid. It is not a well engineered thing in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 24December, 2021 Report Share Posted 24December, 2021 Only quality components in a Porsche 👍😅😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherpa Posted 25December, 2021 Author Report Share Posted 25December, 2021 7 hours ago, LeeM said: Only quality components in a Porsche 👍😅😉 You’d think the Toyota influence from this era would have helped more 🤷🏻♂️😂 Merv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st3ve Posted 1January, 2022 Report Share Posted 1January, 2022 On 21/12/2021 at 13:39, MFX said: I don't understand the design in the first place. The tabs that break off look like they were designed to flex (or break) but they just need to be solid. It is not a well engineered thing in general. The engineer involved was recognised for his obvious talent and promoted to the engine department, intermediate shaft division... MFX, GC9911, JWM and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastr Posted 3January, 2022 Report Share Posted 3January, 2022 The toyota influence seems to have been about how to build the cars faster and cheaper with fewer people, not on making it last longer. I guess that is phase 2 of the toyota way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merv Posted 3January, 2022 Report Share Posted 3January, 2022 18 hours ago, Coastr said: The toyota influence seems to have been about how to build the cars faster and cheaper with fewer people, not on making it last longer. I guess that is phase 2 of the toyota way? Where Toyota continues to win big points is in build quality and reliability and also their service costs, relative to, say, VW (let alone Audi, Porsche, etc). 7 years warranty with a fixed price for all services (including fluids) of around $200. Hard to beat. SteveF and Joz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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