Kabooby Posted 31January, 2017 Report Share Posted 31January, 2017 Hi Everyone,I am new to the forum and am enjoying reading all the posts. I have been a 911 fan for as long as I can remember and the time has come for me to start looking to buy one. I am after a car I can keep for some time and will not be a daily driver. I have decided on a 997 Manual and I have looked at a couple. The 997S is great but they are a lot more expensive in Manual than auto.Just wondering if people think you could pick up a manual 997S for the same price as some of the autos or if I can always expect to pay a premium.As a side note, would you expect the 997 to keep decreasing in value over the next few years to match the 996 prices.Thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scashin Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 My 10 cents...Quite a few variables make up price. And it's similar to all Porsche models997.1 vs 997.2 - 997.2 got engine changes, new PDK and a new interior centre console, but if you want to see ALL the changes see attached (an interesting read)Manual vs Auto - manual nearly always more, but PDK is pretty impressiveCoupe vs Convertible - coupe nearly always moreFrom my research; a 997.2 manual will be desirable as they didn't sell many during the GFC, the engine issues were fixed and lots of small upgrades (attached) which made it a better car. I'd suggest these 997.2 manuals will be slow to drop in price.Regarding the S or not S. 997.2 non S ends up with similar power to the 997.1 S ; so more to think about.I doubt the 997 will ever go to 996 prices. 2009_911_Carrera_Coupe_Long_FINAL.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabooby Posted 1February, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 Thanks. Great Read. Unfortunately the 997.2 is out of my price range. Yeah definitely want a coupe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 You'll always pay a premium for the manuals, so you need to factor that in. If KMs aren't a huge concern to you, something over 100k kms will be far more affordable, price drops considerably at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k0nz Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 2009_911_Carrera_Coupe_Long_FINAL.pdfGreat read, can you tell me if that is an extraction from a larger doc/book .. eg. is there a similar doc for other models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 I have a 997.1 S in manual ,,,when I was buying my car I found that manuals demanded a higher price than the Autos ,,I also discovered that certain options such as sports chrono ,and 19 inch rims also raised the price and generally there is also a premium to be paid on low mileage cars .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 I'm glad this thread popped up. I have been wondering what all the hoohar is about the '.2'.The 997 is the only other 911 I would be tempted to get if I sold the SC. I imagine I couldn't afford a .2 though.Now to examine all the 0-100 times in each variation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 997 RWD Coupes, 0-100kmph Times (sec)2005 997.1 3.6L Auto = 5.52005 997.1 3.6L Manual = 5.02005 997.1 3.8L Auto = 5.32005 997.1 3.8L Manual = 4.82008 997.2 3.6L Auto = 4.72008 997.2 3.6L Manual = 4.92008 997.2 3.8L Auto = 4.52008 997.2 3.8L Manual = 4.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 Where are you located? I have a 4S, test drove a carrera & S, chalk and cheese when fitted with chrono package as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabooby Posted 1February, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 Where are you located? I have a 4S, test drove a carrera & S, chalk and cheese when fitted with chrono package as wellSouth West Sydney. My preference is for the S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINGY Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 997 RWD Coupes, 0-100kmph Times (sec)2005 997.1 3.6L Auto = 5.52005 997.1 3.6L Manual = 5.02005 997.1 3.8L Auto = 5.32005 997.1 3.8L Manual = 4.82008 997.2 3.6L Auto = 4.72008 997.2 3.6L Manual = 4.92008 997.2 3.8L Auto = 4.52008 997.2 3.8L Manual = 4.7Why is everyone so hung up on these numbers, i'm more interested in which one i can pummel through a 35km hr corner at a 100km hr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whytar Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 If 997.1 definitely go manual. S is a stronger performer but it isn't life changing over the Carrera. Find a good low miler with strong service history and a PPI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 Fascinating, 997.2 3.8 has similar power to a 996 GT3. And I assume the 997 is quicker off the mark. They have very different purposes of course but maybe 7 years newer with similar HP/performance for less coin seems good value. Not suggesting you'd cross shop the 2 but it just shows the rate of progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 Why is everyone so hung up on these numbers, i'm more interested in which one i can pummel through a 35km hr corner at a 100km hrdomination at the lights. it's a man thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonN Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 domination at the lights. it's a man thing.Domination through the corners. It's a driver thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scashin Posted 1February, 2017 Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 Great read, can you tell me if that is an extraction from a larger doc/book .. eg. is there a similar doc for other models.I just found it in my travels of the Internet. I'd say Porsche did others but not sure where to find them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabooby Posted 1February, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 1February, 2017 This site has all the sales brochures of the models. http://www.auto-brochures.com/porsche.htmlThe 997.1 Brochure has heaps of infohttp://www.auto-brochures.com/makes/Porsche/911/Porsche_US 911_2007.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevMcRev Posted 3February, 2017 Report Share Posted 3February, 2017 997 RWD Coupes, 0-100kmph Times (sec)2005 997.1 3.6L Auto = 5.52005 997.1 3.6L Manual = 5.02005 997.1 3.8L Auto = 5.32005 997.1 3.8L Manual = 4.82008 997.2 3.6L Auto = 4.72008 997.2 3.6L Manual = 4.92008 997.2 3.8L Auto = 4.52008 997.2 3.8L Manual = 4.72002 996.2 3.6L Manual = 4.9 - 5.0 depending on what you read. I doubt the 997 will ever go to 996 prices.The bottom end of the 997 market is already meeting/overlapping the top end of the 996 market in like for like C2 manual coupes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabooby Posted 3February, 2017 Author Report Share Posted 3February, 2017 2002 996.2 3.6L Manual = 4.9 - 5.0 depending on what you read.The bottom end of the 997 market is already meeting/overlapping the top end of the 996 market in like for like C2 manual coupes.Yes I think the times for the 996.2 and the 997.1 in Manual are the same. So based on the prices do you think the 997 prices are falling?My preference is still with the 997. More modern features and I prefer the headlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazius Posted 3February, 2017 Report Share Posted 3February, 2017 High mileage, auto, lack of critical options, and the earlier IMS bearing are definitely still falling. Later bearing, manual, right options, low mileage, if anything are static to rising slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raafrebel Posted 14May, 2017 Report Share Posted 14May, 2017 Im just about to buy a 997.1 auto...and , its an import...several reasons.... price, options, log books and my hoon girlfriend can't drive a manual.I'm not at all worried about re sale value, australian delivered or any of that stuff. (they are all made in the same factory....), were not buying for an investment or show pony , we are buying to drive through snowy mtns , putty road and weekend road trips.i don't care it only reaches 0-100 in 5.5 seconds instead of 4.9, but it will do whole putty road in 50 mins.... we are buying because its the best bang for buck , and it is just damm nice to drive!!!(and its the only one I've found with sunroof delete..)good luck and enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeM Posted 14May, 2017 Report Share Posted 14May, 2017 Im just about to buy a 997.1 auto...and , its an import...several reasons.... price, options, log books and my hoon girlfriend can't drive a manual.I'm not at all worried about re sale value, australian delivered or any of that stuff. (they are all made in the same factory....), were not buying for an investment or show pony , we are buying to drive through snowy mtns , putty road and weekend road trips.i don't care it only reaches 0-100 in 5.5 seconds instead of 4.9, but it will do whole putty road in 50 mins.... we are buying because its the best bang for buck , and it is just damm nice to drive!!! Man it's good to read someone buying a car to drive, and not giving a toss about value! Nice one fella. Got some pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raafrebel Posted 14May, 2017 Report Share Posted 14May, 2017 Man it's good to read someone buying a car to drive, and not giving a toss about value! Nice one fella. Got some pics? Thanks... haha... no coffee shop runs for me, I like 100 km zones with lots of corners. I will post pic once we get itits getting ppi this week before I buy... although we have put a depositim not good posting pics here... but will try again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
09ELF Posted 23May, 2017 Report Share Posted 23May, 2017 hows the car? This is the silver one from our great capital ? How much would a clean low KM 997cs manual be worth?what would people on here consider as a good priceSeems like over 100k nowdays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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