Niko Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Well what about this........finally some good news for the poor relations, the 986 Boxsters and the 996, 911's. I know you air cooled are all going to tut tut this one, but...... http://flatsixes.com/advise/maintenance-tips/consider-porsche-boxster-986-porsche-911-996-classics/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 I think any Porsche given enough time will eventually be considered a classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 I think there are just 'too many' 996s and 986s currently for them to move the way air cooled cars have.When you look at australian delivery figures for the 60s/70s/80s/90s of air cooled 911's there were 20-50 each year. There are so many more watercooled 911'sBut i'd say give it time, look at the Mustang! they made millions and now they're worth money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB911 Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Guys, we all know that the 944 is the next classic and sure to appreciate in value in the short term Here's hoping anyway LOL They did race the 944 Turbo, so it does have some pedigree and with all the bad examples and neglected or wrecked ones over the years the "common" 944 is becoming far less common. When was the last time a good one passed you in your daily travels??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 When was the last time a good one passed you in your daily travels???Today. Well , I passed it and got in. Actually there a few around Hobart and a couple of 968s.Still waiting to see 944s go up in value. I was offered one for $1200 last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB911 Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Hey , hey Tazzieman, shhhhhh shhhh it was working, it was working, how can I drive up the 944 prices with comments like that...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Oh yeah well GOOD 944s , they are worth a mint ; even the na ones have almost as much power as an SC and of course they handle so much better (refer PCNSW motorkhana and supersprint results).Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 "The 911 996 covers model years 1998-2005 for a total production of 172,262 Porsches"might be a classic, but will be hard pressed to ever be that valuable with these kind of production numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Porsche are now swimming in a sea of other capable brands. Which is why they had to branch out of their core business of pure sports cars many years ago.Cars , including luxury cars, are now regarded as commodities by a public used to short leases and dealer service agreements.The youth of today may or may not lust after 986s and 996s , but I suspect not. The Cayman might be a dark horse in the collectability stakes.Given the huge production run , the wreckers will be stocked with lots of spare bits for the decades ahead. And the aftermarket will sell a bunch of IMS kits too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB911 Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Oh yeah well GOOD 944s , they are worth a mint ; even the na ones have almost as much power as an SC and of course they handle so much better (refer PCNSW motorkhana and supersprint results).Better?so much better, thanks Tas. The 944 community salute you my friend ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANF Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 "The 911 996 covers model years 1998-2005 for a total production of 172,262 Porsches"might be a classic, but will be hard pressed to ever be that valuable with these kind of production numbers. Depends how desirable they become? A lot of SCs and 3.2s were made and now they are very desirable.I find the 996 more desirable than either a SC or 3.2 and if they stay affordable for long enough one could find it's way to me.... Yeah that makes me crazy ,I like 928s and 996s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB911 Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 ANF I agree a manual 996 is very welcome in my garage, and a supercharged 928 hot rod as well. I love Porsches, all Porsches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 60ish thousand SC's, 70ish thousand 3.2's, so a lot less. Agree that 996's are desirable cars, just saying they are unlikely to ever have inflated pricing like the earlier cars because there are so many of them. Especially when there is just as many 997's if not more also in the market. Not a bad thing though. It means there will be alot of accessibly priced good quality Porches in the near future so way more people can own them. There will still be the issue as to whether these new owners, who will be able to pick up a 911 for $15k in the very near future, will be able to afford to maintain them properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Man Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Ok.. I'm going to say it. Niko... You're going senile! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baso Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 What surprised me is there were more 911s than Boxsters made. Would not gave guessed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Not a bad thing though. It means there will be alot of accessibly priced good quality Porches in the near future so way more people can own them. But do you think the cachet of "Porsche" has been lost? Remember when BMWs were an unusual sight? Well some of us do. 20 years ago my old Austrian friend wondered why Aussies thought they were anything special. He said they were "like Commodores" back home - completely expendable, even the 6 & 7 series. Some 996s and Boxsters (15k now) will hit 10k before long, because they are now "common" and not DIY friendly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted 13August, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Ok.. I'm going to say it. Niko... You're going senile! uuuhhhmmm ...sorry.......do I know you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboT Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 But do you think the cachet of "Porsche" has been lost? Remember when BMWs were an unusual sight? Well some of us do. 20 years ago my old Austrian friend wondered why Aussies thought they were anything special. He said they were "like Commodores" back home - completely expendable, even the 6 & 7 series. Some 996s and Boxsters will hit 10k before long, because they are now "common" and not DIY friendly.yes and no. Your first Porsche whatever model will always be special. The 911 does seem to have taken a back step though with an ever increasing number of variants that Porsche are making. Much more of a fashion statement sadly and so quickly replaced with a newer 'better' model. Part of the reason why personally I have lost interest in new cars - they feed on the natural human instinct for continual progress and you can spend a ridiculous amount of money only to have it superseded the following year. Kind of amusing to think soon a whole generation of P-platers that will be driving around in 996's as their first cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazzieman Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Kind of amusing to think soon a whole generation of P-platers that will be driving around in 996's as their first cars At my son's school they are already driving Cayenne's and X5s. And utes. Local dealer drops his son off in the 991.A ratrod slightly rusty Boxster might be my choice if on my Ps. Piss parents, teachers, cyclists and purists off simultaneously.Now there's a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiller Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 I have a bit of a lust for a neat late model 996 C2 manual with a tan interior...don't seem to pop up that often. Would make a great daily I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgy Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 "The 911 996 covers model years 1998-2005 for a total production of 172,262 Porsches"might be a classic, but will be hard pressed to ever be that valuable with these kind of production numbers. Of that 172,000~ 5000~ are GT cars....Roughly 3% do math... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike737 Posted 13August, 2015 Report Share Posted 13August, 2015 Of those 996's how many are coupes and manuals. There was a hell of a lot of automatics made, even more than ever before.Remember to break down between first and second gen as you might as well say SC's and 3.2's are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo Posted 14August, 2015 Report Share Posted 14August, 2015 If rareity means collectability some 996 numbers (most of the no are pretty close)996 GT3 RS - 04_05, 682 Built996 GT 2 01_ 03, 1287 Built996 Turbo S 04_ 05, 1563 " "996 GT3 98_2000, 1858 " "996 Anerv: 03_04, 1963 " "Gen 2 GT3 03_05, 2313 " "Gen 2 C4 02_04, 10386 " "Turbo 01_05, 20499 " 'C4 98_01 22054 " "C4S 01_05 23055 " "Gen 2 C2 02_04 29389 " "996 carrera 98_01 56733 Built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted 14August, 2015 Author Report Share Posted 14August, 2015 Hey Tommo, how did you get those figures? I would be interested in what the numbers are for the 986 Boxsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airhead Posted 14August, 2015 Report Share Posted 14August, 2015 A rat Boxster.Hmmmm. Thats got possibilities.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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